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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Unknown Target on August 08, 2006, 06:41:02 pm
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It's rumored that Matt Daemon will be the "new" Captain Kirk - check it out:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/
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If you were any other man I would kill where you stand for saying something like that!
Well, it could be worse. I heard they case Heath Ledger as the Joker for Batman Begins 2. :rolleyes:
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those hippies in holywood need to come up with new ****ing ideas. theyre making the librals look bad :D
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Well, it could be worse. I heard they case Heath Ledger as the Joker for Batman Begins 2. :rolleyes:
I wouldn't be so dismissive of that choice. After Batman Begins, I have complete faith in Christopher Nolan. To paraphrase what he said about it: You know how Robin Williams would play it, and you know how Paul Bettany would play it, but do you have any idea how Heath Ledger would play the Joker? And he's right; I don't know how it's going to look-- all I know is that the Joker in the new movie is going to be scary as hell.
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those hippies in holywood need to come up with new ****ing ideas. theyre making the librals look bad :D
No, i'm pretty sure black metal devotees make liberals look way worse than hollywood types...
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LMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Matt Daemon for captain Kirk !??!?! Youve got to be kidding me.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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maybe if they made ben affleck play spock, and turned it into a jay and silent bob movie.
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I wouldn't be so dismissive of that choice. After Batman Begins, I have complete faith in Christopher Nolan. To paraphrase what he said about it: You know how Robin Williams would play it, and you know how Paul Bettany would play it, but do you have any idea how Heath Ledger would play the Joker? And he's right; I don't know how it's going to look-- all I know is that the Joker in the new movie is going to be scary as hell.
Never thought of it like that, you make a good point. Cheerfully retracted.
maybe if they made ben affleck play spock, and turned it into a jay and silent bob movie.
Am I the only one who thinks that would be blunt-tastic?
Seriously, they could make a new mirror-universe based in the View-Askew universe we've all come to know and love! Think of the possibilities!
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those hippies in holywood need to come up with new ****ing ideas. theyre making the librals look bad :D
No, i'm pretty sure black metal devotees make liberals look way worse than hollywood types...
black metal has very little to do with libralism. hippies hate black metal and listen to grunge. if anything black metal "devotees" are more conservative, outconserving the christian conservatives who only conserve a way of life established by the roman empire 2000 years ago. black metal people wish to restore the pagan (village oriented) and heathen (clan oriented) way of existance which existed for thousands of years before civilization came about and started expanding its borders. to the pagans, those who we call conservatives, they would call hippies. what this has to do with star trek is beyond me.
maybe if they made ben affleck play spock, and turned it into a jay and silent bob movie.
make jay and silent bob klingons :D
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maybe if they made ben affleck play spock, and turned it into a jay and silent bob movie.
make jay and silent bob klingons :D
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Something about that just makes me... oh, God! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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quick somone photoshop an example :D
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http://shatneriskirk.ytmnd.com/
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No, i'm pretty sure black metal devotees make liberals look way worse than hollywood types...
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That wooshing sound was the point going over your head.
It's not a commentary on you being liberal. (Though realistically speaking you are; let's face it, the task of the conservative is not to bring a return to the old ways but to preserve the old ways. You can't preserve what you claim to seek a return to, a claim that has problems in and of itself, because it's dead and has been that way for at least 1000 years.)
It's a commentary on the content of black metal. Specifically a lack of variety and/or range.
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oh right this is the movie about college days or whatever lol
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This movie should just be about the Dominon War! Don't want to see Kirk and Spock at High School. >.<
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its gonna be kir n spock at school, im sure of it
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J.J. Abrams is not nearly stupid enough to do this.
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Well at least the combat will be better than the standard starfleet training, IE > Hold hands together make a fist, and whack from left to right, right to left and reverse.
Bourne identity style CQF will rock the enterprise !
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Could hae been worse I guess, like Tom Cruise.
I still keep getting visions of Police Academy....
'Your Phasers will be set to Kill, but there will be no cause to use them. Kirk! Do you get that Numbnuts?'
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No, i'm pretty sure black metal devotees make liberals look way worse than hollywood types...
*insert stuff here*
That wooshing sound was the point going over your head.
It's not a commentary on you being liberal. (Though realistically speaking you are; let's face it, the task of the conservative is not to bring a return to the old ways but to preserve the old ways. You can't preserve what you claim to seek a return to, a claim that has problems in and of itself, because it's dead and has been that way for at least 1000 years.)
It's a commentary on the content of black metal. Specifically a lack of variety and/or range.
black metal has no more a lack of range than any other genre of music you can think of. that includes classical. to somone not familiar with classical two distinct pieces may sound similar. its a comon phenomenon. its not a matter of my metal is kvlt and yours is not, though some of the kiddies may say that. they may like a band and all the other bands that sound like that one. a more mature listener would notice more variety in the genre while a kiddie would denounce anything distinct as non-black metal. essentially there was a genre hijack that happend in the second generation of black metal. bands like venom and bathory (who some would define as of another genre) were replaced by darkthrone, mayhem, ect. fans of the second generation bands got really anal about what black metal is. its where the terms troo and kvlt were established. then the 3rd generation came about the genre really moved forward and became more complex. dont let the 2nd generation fans steer your views of the entire genre of black metal. consider it a dark ages of sorts.
then again you miss my point about the political nature of paganism. a return to such an existans is rendered impossible merely by the populations of people. an independant village is not possible as governments claim ownership of large amounts of otherwise uninhabited land. civilization forces cooperation between communities, and sometiomes depends on it. a return to a pagan village or a forest clan would be constantly interfered with by the civilised world. perhaps merely by contact or through taxation or imposition of outside laws. its just not possible to completely return to the pagan way. modern pagans dont do this but still attempt to perserve whats left of their ancient ideology/religion. this is conservatism. forms of neopaganism, like wicca, various new age beliefs, or even the church of satan, all stem from the hippie movment of the 60s and is therefore libral. its an important distinction to make.
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its gonna be kir n spock at school, im sure of it
And I have a feeling that even if I get around to actually seeing it, I will simply say "He's no Shatner". Shatner defined Kirk, he defined his character. Without Shatner, there is no Kirk.
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its gonna be kir n spock at school, im sure of it
And I have a feeling that even if I get around to actually seeing it, I will simply say "He's no Shatner". Shatner defined Kirk, he defined his character. Without Shatner, there is no Kirk.
Yes. Shatner... defined....Kirk! My......God!
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You may as well cast benny hill as picard..........
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And Snoop-dog as Sisko...
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And Snoop-dog as Sisko...
Now that would be a laugh. lol
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And Snoop-dog as Sisko...
Now that would be a laugh. lol
and a definitive invitation to get them all flayed.
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its gonna be kir n spock at school, im sure of it
And I have a feeling that even if I get around to actually seeing it, I will simply say "He's no Shatner". Shatner defined Kirk, he defined his character. Without Shatner, there is no Kirk.
that Shat approves of Damon as kirk... infact i heard it was his idea
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Well, I'm pretty sure that when Enterprise was "cancelled", Mike Sussman said that there was going to be another, final, Star Trek Movie. So I'm not too surprised: the fact that they seem to have screwed it up AGAIN is another matter...
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Damn man, not Snoop... Dig up the Ghost of Tupac, only he could play it straight since Sisko died (bringing it from the prophets baby!)
I could live with (in team american voice) "Matt Damon".
However, Jay and Silent Bob are a MUST!
(New Scene)
Two figures beam aboard the Enterprise-E. One appears to be a Male Deltan but with hair? The other is a rather short and rotund Vulcan?
Male Deltan: "Yeah, what's up all you B*tches?" He then notices a hot chief (was it Salazar or Vargas?) at the transporter controls... "Hey mama, I'm a Deltan. Do you know what that means?"
"It means I'm gonna **** you like you've never had it before. And my partner short-round over there" (points to Bob as he does the Vulcan salute in response, "Is gonna hook us up on the same mental plane with that meld Sh*t. Now that's what I'm talking about!"
Jay is quickly transported into open space...
(movie ends)
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You may as well cast benny hill as picard..........
I don't think that analogy is quite fair. I think the problem here is that Matt Damon is too good an actor to play Captain Kirk, a persona that has become synonymous with William Shatner's hammy style.
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The whole "We're going to do Star Trek the colledge years!" rumor got started when the official announcement on StrakTrek.com said that is exactly what the film was going to be about. I think the guy was fired for saying that.
J.J Abrams, the one whos writing the film has said he hasn't even started writing it yet (well... he probably has by now, but this was all said and done months ago), and that it's probably not going to be about that... unfortunatly, everyones gone around reporting the whole "Star Trek babies" idea and ignored the official retraction of this statement.
The whole Damon thing is JUST a rumor... for now.
Edit: What's worse, this was the original pitch Shatner made for ST V. That was going to be Kirk, Spock and McCoy, sat around a camp fire, reminising about the good 'ol days at the acadmey. Even if they do make this film as a prequal, at this it'll be better than that.
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Actually, I've come to look at directors far more than the actors (thank you, Lucas, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, & Natalie Portman...). With JJ Abrams at the figurative helm, it should rock.
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You can never beat the origional (sp?) characters. Kirk is kirk. No one else can replace him, IMHO.
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I'm thinking what the Studio Execs see is things like Batman Begins, Spiderman, even Superman...they've all done well. Mind you they are comic book based movies but lets ignore that for a moment. I think they are seeing those franchises re-imagined and seeing the audiences loving them. I personally think the new Batman Begins movie is spectacular...its so much better than the ones before. The new Superman turned out to be a reall good movie too. So the few Studio Execs with brains (lets not give them too much credit here) are seeing that if you put some smart people behind re-imagined franchises the audiences will come and see them.
When I heard the plot premise for this movie I initially turned my nose up. But I'm optimistic now. JJ Abrams did a fantastic job with MI:3 so I have some faith in him. He took MI:2's craptacularness and created a very good movie. If this is Star Trek re-imagined...I wonder how he's going to do that. Will it be as good as Batman Begins and the reimagining of that mythos? We'll see.
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I think Icefire hit on the head with this one.
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I think Icefire hit on the head with this one.
I agree also.
I wish I had seen MI:3 in the movie theatres.
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any exec will make a profit on a familiar concept rather than take a risk on something new. its the way buisness works. unfortunately this only makes movies that sell well, it doesnt make better movies.
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Star Trek Re-energizes? The Kirk Supremacy? What's the point Star Trek is so last century. People want dark, moody, and sexy now. People want a new BSG movie.
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Did you ever watch Seasons 3 and 4 of Enterprise? Dark, moody, people being blown into space, characters with severe emotional problems after experiencing such coombat for the first time - yet it still managed to cling to the ideal of a better future.
Enterprise was slated by the fanbase because they were so used to Voyager being pish, and forgot that even TNG took at least two seasons to truly become a great series.
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Did you ever watch Seasons 3 and 4 of Enterprise? Dark, moody, people being blown into space, characters with severe emotional problems after experiencing such coombat for the first time - yet it still managed to cling to the ideal of a better future.
Enterprise was slated by the fanbase because they were so used to Voyager being pish, and forgot that even TNG took at least two seasons to truly become a great series.
Quite true. Season 3 was definintely an improvement, and Season 4 very much so, not to mention one of the most awesome AU episode ever in a mainstream Sci-fi program. Should have had another season or two, but no matter, upward and onward.
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Enterprise turned me off repeatedly. I got sick of giving it chances to impress me. Same with Stargate.
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scifi = god
In a mirror darkly was one of THE best episodes EVER
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and forgot that even TNG took at least two seasons to truly become a great series.
It wasn't time to settle in that improved Enterprise but breaking B&B's iron fisted control on the franchise. Look at season 3. The entire series managed to make the temporal cold war actually interesting for an entire season and it only took B&B 5 minutes at the end to turn it all back to crap again.
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Enterprise turned me off repeatedly. I got sick of giving it chances to impress me. Same with Stargate.
Well, it's official, I will now take no heed whatsoever of your opinion. :blah:
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Enterprise turned me off repeatedly. I got sick of giving it chances to impress me. Same with Stargate.
Well, it's official, I will now take no heed whatsoever of your opinion. :blah:
Alien-Nazis ... or Nazi-Aliens, let that one sink in and then try to form an objective opinion on Enterprise ;)
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Enterprise seasons 1 and 2 were loads of crap lightly sprinkled with some good stuff. Seasons 3 and 4 were loads of good stuff lightly sprinkled (unfortunately at key points) with crap.
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Alien-Nazis ... or Nazi-Aliens, let that one sink in and then try to form an objective opinion on Enterprise ;)
Well... Formulaic? Yep. Cliched? Darn tootin'. It was moronic writing, but at the very least the aliens siding with the Nazis is at least a logical course of action, as they were the largest power for a good while there, and thus the safest way to safeguard their goals. Anyway, you expect them to side with the Soviets, or the Americans?! They'd be working in a Siberian gulag or getting cut-open on an operating table in Area 51 in no-time. :rolleyes:
But the fact still remains, as Sarno so eloquently points out, 3 & 4 were light-years ahead of 1 & 2, and truly are the seasons that should be referenced when judging the series as a whole.
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Alien-Nazis ... or Nazi-Aliens, let that one sink in and then try to form an objective opinion on Enterprise ;)
Well... Formulaic? Yep. Cliched? Darn tootin'. It was moronic writing, but at the very least the aliens siding with the Nazis is at least a logical course of action, as they were the largest power for a good while there, and thus the safest way to safeguard their goals. Anyway, you expect them to side with the Soviets, or the Americans?! They'd be working in a Siberian gulag or getting cut-open on an operating table in Area 51 in no-time. :rolleyes:
Yes, because the Nazis were very tolerant of different-looking peoples.
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:lol:
Logic +! to Aldo
LEVEL UP !!!
REACHED, Highland Warrior STATUS
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Yes, because the Nazis were very tolerant of different-looking peoples.
Touché!