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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazan on November 25, 2001, 10:57:00 pm
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Ok.. this is it.. i've finally had enough.
I'm gone- catch you later. Even after all the freaking time, money, effort, etc i've poored into this community i still get no freaking respect. I HAVE HAD IT and I FREAKING MEAN IT THIS TIME! I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS!
I have spent my time working for things for you guys when i could have prolly been out hanging out with friends, females, blading, playing soccer, rock climbing, etc.
If this is how you treat people that work their *** off for you so bee it - don't expect your community to stay coherent over the long run. Even the people that think they are "masters of civility" as guilty
"It's just a little humor" - that's what you say until it's directed at you and YOUR hard work.
Oh and if you check my site you'll see something new.
Goodbye and have fun in hell.
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Er...?
Bye, I guess...
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Ok, bye! All because I moved a thread.
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Ok, bye! All because I moved a thread.
no it was something on the VBB
specifically the ressurection of this ( http://vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009488.html ("http://vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009488.html") ) and the reponses to it - go to the second page and read all the new posts
[This message has been edited by Kazan (edited 11-25-2001).]
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Er... in case you haven't noticed, 90% of those on the VBB are complete morons and most of the rest are newbies. I wouldn't take anythin they say too seriously- we still love you, Kazan. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Kazan, ever thought about taking a vacation? The world of FreeSpace isn't gonna fall apart if you took some time off for a few days.
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excuse me- it was GriffonUK that bumped it.. he's like an admin here
last week i had freaking Red6 avoiding bans just to slag me, griffin and several other old members are always going out of their way to slag me,
i'm sick of it. this is crap
[This message has been edited by Kazan (edited 11-25-2001).]
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Originally posted by Slasher:
Kazan, ever thought about taking a vacation? The world of FreeSpace isn't gonna fall apart if you took some time off for a few days.
to come back to this kind of abuse? what's the point, not a single person here respects me, some are just honest about it (griffon, etc) the others don't even have the guts to slag me to my face - they have to do it on the staff-only forums of Volition Watch and Hard Light Productions
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I hate ta break it to you, but you're dead wrong about that. There ain't no Kazan-bashing going on in the private forums here, that's for sure.
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not what im told
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By who?
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Originally posted by Kazan:
"It's just a little humor" - that's what you say until it's directed at you and YOUR hard work.
Actually my work gets ripped to shreds all the time and I've only freaked out what....once...maybe twice? The rest of the time I just joke right back or ignore it.
One word
Prozac[\b][\i]
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Er... Sorry Kaz, but you're not any fun to make fun of anyhow. Particularly behind your back. There are people at the VBB who have found that you blast off easily, and love to start a fight, but other than those few, all on the VBB, you receive only your share of criticism and insults- surely more than a few lurkers, etc. who produce nothing and say nothin of interest, but I've seen you be the center of far fewer attacks than many here- and if people poke at PCS, well, they poke at MODs too, and renders, and anything else that comes along. Go with it- nobody wants to bother you, we just love to complain. Complain back, why don't you? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Warlock:
Actually my work gets ripped to shreds all the time and I've only freaked out what....once...maybe twice? The rest of the time I just joke right back or ignore it.
Mmm-Hmm (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)... but you are a good example. Your stuff does get picked on a bot more than others... listen to him, Kazan. He knows.
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you dont remember the early days.. before i even hit 2000 posts do you
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Where, on the VBB?
No, not really. I didn't hang around much then.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9:
Complain back, why don't you? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
because then things like The DeathRipper Incident occur
when my opinion about someone elses work is started people think im acting like my work is FAR more superior and im trashing their just to be a butthole - even when all i gave was constructive criticism
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*Raises hand*
Yup I remember...remember you've posted basically the exact same thread before ...prolly about 5 times now too.
Just remember to ask the doc for Prozac ok? If you can't remember the name just ask him for the "happy pills". They should help.
Till then *Slides the bottle of JD down the thread*
Go chill man
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yes i have. posted it before.. and each time i do i get closer and closer to actually pulling the plug... i had my finger on the delete key over my d:/devel/gameuitls/* directory
well im going to bed now.. i'll check the posts in this thread and make a decision
[This message has been edited by Kazan (edited 11-25-2001).]
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Originally posted by Kazan:
because then things like The DeathRipper Incident occur
when my opinion about someone elses work is started people think im acting like my work is FAR more superior and im trashing their just to be a butthole - even when all i gave was constructive criticism
Recall a thread a loooooooooong time ago on the main VBB when you and I had a long convo about how you go about you're critisim and ..back then..general wording to Newbies? Back when a guy makes his first post and asks a standard "yes I've just opened the box and while it's installing I was wondering" and you seemed to jump down his throat and back out his a$$? Still applies,..sometimes you might be meaning well but can still come off as ***** ,..we all do it at times.
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That's the way of forums. You'll be called an *** , but if you're not an *** , you're a newbie or you're flamebait.Particularly here, where we've got this undercurrent of modders trying to p1mp their goods and make them seem better than the others. It carries over, such is life. Don't be so thin-skinned. Also, most of the complaints on here can be taken to heart. Some here know what they'e talking about, if you can figure out how to improve PCS- and isn't that the whole point? If you were planning on getting constant praise for your work just for nailing something together that nobody else managed to do, sorry, you've got the wrong medium. Try... I dunno... phone sex.
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I really should get around to opressing this thread. But I'm watching TV, so it'll have to wait.
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Phone sex????????
ROTFLMAO!!! Sorry that was too funny,..nothign to do with Kaz on it being funny...just the timing.
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I HAVE HAD IT and I FREAKING MEAN IT THIS TIME! I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS!
Okay, go away then. If all you want out of this is respect from others, then frankly, I don't think anybody cares if you decide to leave. :P
I think you brought this upon yourself with an incredibly conceited personality and a general attitude of superiority towards everyone else in the community. :P
Oh and if you check my site you'll see something new.
"Restructing" isn't a word. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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hey, shut up! ok, I admit Kaz pisses me off quite too often, but who here is able to take the hand if he leaves the place?
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Hmmmm, later Kazan, you write good code, but you need to relax a little. Everyone gets their fair share of criticism.
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I have to agree with venom. Since it doesn't look like Gary is ever gonna finish his set of utilities and Kazan's are already functional we do need him. Granted I'll bet his natural charm has made him an exceptional sprinter (j/k), but I've learned more from him in two topics than I ever learned by trying to study those so called "begginer" manuals on some of this stuff (or rather stuff he's said has made some of it finally 'click' anyway).
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Oh god, I go to sleep for the night and threads like this show up. I love my job.
I'm going to let this live for a little while, but Kazan - be very careful about what you say and do here. The HLP staff are seriously considering banning you from the forums and slagging us off publicly is not a way to improve matters. Everything I've said in addition to this can be found on your tirade on the VBB.
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Originally posted by Kazan:
Ok.. this is it.. i've finally had enough.
I'm gone- catch you later. Even after all the freaking time, money, effort, etc i've poored into this community i still get no freaking respect. I HAVE HAD IT and I FREAKING MEAN IT THIS TIME! I DONT HAVE TIME FOR THIS!
I have spent my time working for things for you guys when i could have prolly been out hanging out with friends, females, blading, playing soccer, rock climbing, etc.
If this is how you treat people that work their *** off for you so bee it - don't expect your community to stay coherent over the long run. Even the people that think they are "masters of civility" as guilty
"It's just a little humor" - that's what you say until it's directed at you and YOUR hard work.
Oh and if you check my site you'll see something new.
Goodbye and have fun in hell.
No offense, but how far up your own arse is your head?
LEARN TO TAKE A JOKE FOR GOD'S SAKE!
That's all it is. Don't do thing because you require / have an urgent need for respect & our instant devotion, do them because; a) You enjoy them, or b)you enjoy being helpful.
Now go and have a drink to calm down (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
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[This message has been edited by aldo_14 (edited 11-26-2001).]
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Originally posted by Thunder:
Oh god, I go to sleep for the night and threads like this show up. I love my job.
I'm going to let this live for a little while, but Kazan - be very careful about what you say and do here. The HLP staff are seriously considering banning you from the forums and slagging us off publicly is not a way to improve matters. Everything I've said in addition to this can be found on your tirade on the VBB.
Like banning him is going to help (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Keep up the good work on your utils Kazan (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
I think there should be atleast some respect for what he does, whitout his utils we couldent even get a working model in FS.
[This message has been edited by darkage (edited 11-26-2001).]
[This message has been edited by darkage (edited 11-26-2001).]
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Actually banning him will help. It means I don't have to wake up in the morning and load the forums, to find a whole load of attention seeking and complaining about the HLP staff. I'm not out to hate Kazan, but I'm not going to pretend I like him if he keeps this up. My advice is dropping this whole charade and simply walking or staying. Looking at your previous track record, saying more will do no good.
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Actually, you know what? I'm tired of this myself.
This thread is now locked. Kazan, if you want to say any more you have my email. I'm willing to let this matter drop right now. Posting further messages on this topic will get you banned.
You may have a finite limit of tolorence, but remember. So do I, and that limit just got crossed.
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Originally posted by Kazan:
http://vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009488.html ("http://vbb.volition-inc.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009488.html")
I've had a look at this Kazan and really I don't think it's that bad. It does get a little bit too personal but at the end of the day they are as entitled to their opinion as you are to speak in your defence.
On the other hand I know why you're upset. I remember when I released Legend of the Exploding Fist for the Amiga. A project I had invested 6 months of work in. Then I saw this http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=MPG.130fffa3e01fe6f4989681%40news.dslspeed.com&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dlegend-of-the-exploding-fist%26hl%3Den%26rnum%3D5%26selm%3DMP ("http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=MPG.130fffa3e01fe6f4989681%40news.dslspeed.com&rnum=5&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dlegend-of-the-exploding-fist%26hl%3Den%26rnum%3D5%26selm%3DMP") G.130fffa3e01fe6f4989681%2540news.dslspeed.com .
The point is that there's always someone who's going to have a go at your work. No matter how good your work is or how much effort you put into it. The trick is to realise that for every one person that does that there are usually a whole bunch more who appreciate you're work. As long as it's good work, and that generally means anything you do.
Anyway, please stick around the FS2 community. At least until I leave in a bit. You're smart and you say what you think. It's good having people like that around. But it's always worth striving to do more football, blading, and females.