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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kosh on August 14, 2006, 10:11:39 pm

Title: networking help
Post by: Kosh on August 14, 2006, 10:11:39 pm
Ok, last night my main computer decided to have some serious problems, namly after 5 minutes on the internet it would crap out saying that svchost.exe was having some problems and needed to close (which basically kills the internet). I am pretty sure this is just more bitrot problems, so I think it is time for a reformat.


The problem is that I am trying to find a way to back-up everything I want to keep. My CD-burner is broken, I don't have the time to fix it or the money to buy a new one. I was thinking about using a direct cable connection from that computer to this one, but the only cable I have is a UDP patch cable that came with the DSL modem. My question is, will this work or will I need to buy a networking cable?


EDIT: Crap, looks like bitrot isn't the issue. I'm also havin the same problem on this computer after I set up the DSL connection. The really wierd thing is that if I leave the error window open, the internet will continue to work for a couple of minutes. Anyone have any ides for this one too?

EDIT2: It seems that installing the ISP software will fix this problem, but I really don't understand why. I don't want to use it for a couple of reasons, so does anyone have any idea on how to make the windows networking stuff work?
Title: Re: networking help
Post by: Descenterace on August 15, 2006, 12:34:12 am
Is it definitely a UTP patch cable and not a phone cable?
Assuming it is an RJ-45 UTP patch cable, you'll still need a crossover adapter to connect two computers with it. Such adapters are about 2 or 3 dollars.

Regarding the error: are you sure it's not a virus? Sasser is pretty rare now and the vulnerability has been patched, but it used to cause a problem like this in an unpatched or SP1 machine.
Title: Re: networking help
Post by: BlackDove on August 15, 2006, 01:03:16 am
To fix this problem.

Format > Cut internet > WinXP fresh > SP2 > Turn on internet.
Title: Re: networking help
Post by: Nuke on August 15, 2006, 01:05:37 am
it sounds like you killed a neccisary service. what services have you disabled?
Title: Re: networking help
Post by: Kosh on August 15, 2006, 02:23:25 am
I haven't killed or disabled anything. It started doing that by itself.

This machine is a SP2 install.


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Is it definitely a UTP patch cable and not a phone cable?

I'm not a n00b at this, of course I know that it is a UDP cable. I've just never done a "direct connect" before.


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Regarding the error: are you sure it's not a virus? Sasser is pretty rare now and the vulnerability has been patched, but it used to cause a problem like this in an unpatched or SP1 machine.

If it was, then why does it work after I install the ISP softare and use their program?
Title: Re: networking help
Post by: Kazan on August 15, 2006, 02:26:02 pm
actually this could be a bad driver for the network card, or a network card going bad
Title: Re: networking help
Post by: Kosh on August 15, 2006, 09:59:37 pm
That doesn't explain why it works fine if I use the software my ISP provides.
Title: Re: networking help
Post by: Descenterace on August 16, 2006, 12:58:30 am
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Is it definitely a UTP patch cable and not a phone cable?

I'm not a n00b at this, of course I know that it is a UDP cable. I've just never done a "direct connect" before.

The use of 'UDP' instead of 'UTP' threw me. UDP is a network protocol. UTP is the most common type of ethernet cable.

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Regarding the error: are you sure it's not a virus? Sasser is pretty rare now and the vulnerability has been patched, but it used to cause a problem like this in an unpatched or SP1 machine.

If it was, then why does it work after I install the ISP softare and use their program?

Damaged files being replaced by the installer.