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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 26, 2001, 08:23:00 pm
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Anyone...  I'm looking for a herc Mark II in anything either than low poly format. It will end up as LWO format.
Can anyone help?  Either than re building the damned thing from scratch.
I have the FS2 Herc II converted to lwo, but it looks like crap...    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)   Not enough poly to look good enough.

Thanks  guys.
:P  

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[This message has been edited by CougEr (edited 11-26-2001).]
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Thorn on November 26, 2001, 08:47:00 pm
I just got the crap version too...
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: wEvil on November 26, 2001, 09:01:00 pm
model one...or is lightwave not up to the task (again)

*chuckles evilly*

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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 26, 2001, 09:02:00 pm
Ohhh...
Well I guess someone has to do it!
...might as well assume it wil be me. hahah  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Lightwave baby,  lets get in to it!

in the mean time... hehe,  if any one has a good version in 3D studio max or anything either than TS...  please rescue me from spine modelling.

Stil today,  so...
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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: wEvil on November 26, 2001, 09:07:00 pm
:P  

sorry...knackered and feeling a little agitated.

can't you just smooth the low poly model down with subdees and do some high poly work on the exposed machinery/detail areas and then get the rest done with some repainted texture maps?

that way you dont have to remodel the whole thing and it would only take a couple of hours.


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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 27, 2001, 07:49:00 am
I have already done that  but the time I have to spend texture mapping it I might as well re model the thing.
 I mean it's not that complex, really. I'm just a little lazy  and there is something I wanted to do with several hundreds Hercs MK II.
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 hehe
I made a Hrc MK III once I started remodelling the MK II which I think would be the natural progression from the current one.
 Same goose neck but more streamlined sides. Better placement of the jet outlets and I kept the rudder on the lower hull. Still wondering how the thing lands,  so mine is retractable.

have fun,  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

 

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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Taristin on November 27, 2001, 02:54:00 pm
I have a herc, Herc II, and Ares with about 4000 polies each... but I forget what this topic wants...

Oh, and I can't go online at home wither, so this is just a spam post.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 27, 2001, 08:36:00 pm
Herc Mk III
     (http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/homs/spherc.gif)    
ups!  Sorry bad 360 ani.
old model, old ani.      (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
made it when I was in the BoP.
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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Anduril on November 27, 2001, 10:36:00 pm
Coug, that is some SWEET work.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Vertigo1 on November 27, 2001, 11:52:00 pm
Heh!  Looks like a crossbreed between the Herc II and the U.S.S. Defiant from ST (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)S9!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 28, 2001, 12:43:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Anduril:
Coug, that is some SWEET work.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Nhaaa, the texture mapping was such a quick job. The new version, if I could find it in the maze of my CD rom system, is waaaay better. And it has a pilot in it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Aerodynastheticly speaking,  flyes well. umm I just invented a new term  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) Meaning that it looks good banking, pitching, flying in a straight line. The design allows for some pretty nifty cam angles which allows you to see, as well as the cockpit, the rockeys ready for launch. It is also amongst one of my lowest poly models, 2300.  Still way too many for TS and FS2.

 


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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: NeoHunter on November 28, 2001, 06:06:00 am
Check out the missiles!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Nico on November 28, 2001, 07:47:00 am
Nice, but two things: yeah, the maps are done quicly  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
on a fighter, at list if you use tiling try to have it symetrical  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
And this model completly breaks the herc trend: the vertical shaped fighter...
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Raven2001 on November 28, 2001, 08:46:00 am
Wait until you get to see MY Herc mk.III... just needs texturing and conversion though...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

It ROCKS!!!!
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Nico on November 28, 2001, 09:13:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Raven2001:
Wait until you get to see MY Herc mk.III... just needs texturing and conversion though...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

It ROCKS!!!!

When I'll mod for I-war2 (which is not soon but probably when I've finished OtT), I'll make a better herc2 (with detailled cockpit and all), but it won't be as good as a render model of course.
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: DragonClaw on November 28, 2001, 02:59:00 pm
Hey Couger.. if you ever made a high-poly version of a Herc2 in Lightwave, I'd be happy to have it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)  I use lightwave and I'm not all too happy with FS2's low poly models.

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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 28, 2001, 04:11:00 pm
yeah well...   of course.

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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Setekh on November 29, 2001, 04:28:00 am
Nice...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Reckon you could make a low-poly version for FS2?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Shrike on November 29, 2001, 04:38:00 am
Nice model..... but it doesn't scream 'Herc' to me.....  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/nervous.gif)
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: IceFire on November 29, 2001, 08:58:00 am
That is a nice model.  Wow  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Fineus on November 29, 2001, 09:48:00 am
Hmm, great model but it's definitely not Hercules enough, the cockpits to raised and so on... that said, it's a really good model  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 29, 2001, 02:34:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Nice...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Reckon you could make a low-poly version for FS2?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
yes, I can make a low poli version and I can goose neck the cockpit a little more to bring out the herc in it.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Here's the deal, I'll make the finished low poli version of "Predator" if someone will do the uv mapping for it.  
deal?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)



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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Shrike on November 29, 2001, 04:03:00 pm
It's not the cockpit, it's that the missiles are 'wingy'... it doesn't look like a semi-streamlined brick any more.  Too wide.
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Nico on November 29, 2001, 04:10:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
It's not the cockpit, it's that the missiles are 'wingy'... it doesn't look like a semi-streamlined brick any more.  Too wide.

indeed, as I said, the herc is designed on a vertical axis, not an horizontal one.
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 29, 2001, 10:34:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
indeed, as I said, the herc is designed on a vertical axis, not an horizontal one.
Well... the idea  with Predator,  herc Mk III  was to get away from the vertically designed semi streamlined brick.

Since in space aerodynimic count for didly... squat, the idea of a vertcally axis fighter is irrelevant as much as the horizontally axis one. What remains is the benefit of a vertically designed fighter.
 And I still can't see any, either than a funny looking goose.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Pity,  because the Herc MK II  must be the most popular ship in FS2. I would have prefered something so completely different...  or a great streamlined areodynimic design.

I tried as much as possible to stay in the FS2 theme, still graceing the original design a little and "Predator" came to be.

'Don't like it?
 sue me!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
JJ
It's not major work,  I did it for fun and rather quickly. The F-440 is a different story.  I spent a fair bit more time on that one.
That would have to be a Mk IV,  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Shrike on November 29, 2001, 10:48:00 pm
No no, I think it's a great model.  Just call it the GTF Predator or something.  Then you won't get any complaints about how it doesn't look 'Herc-y'   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: CougEr on November 30, 2001, 05:56:00 am
Now that's a good idea!   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: I need a Herc Mark II !
Post by: Shrike on November 30, 2001, 09:41:00 am
Now that that's settled, go get us some more renders.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

If you want one suggestion tho, if you could make a transparent cockpit with some internal details (ie a pilot) that would be so damn cool.