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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Wild Fragaria on August 16, 2006, 01:43:22 pm
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Tribute to Aldo and other whale lovers :D
Nature News Published online: 16 August 2006; | doi:10.1038/news060814-6
A 25-million-year-old whale fossil from southeastern Australia has revealed a bizarre early type of 'baleen' whale. The creature was an ancient cousin of our modern blue whales and humpbacks, but it was hardly a gentle giant of the sea. Instead it was small and predatory, with enormous eyes and teeth.
Enormous blue whales and humpbacks fall into the category of baleen whales (Mysticeti), which have no teeth, feeding instead by filtering out krill and plankton from huge gulps of sea water. For filters, the whales use large whalebone or 'baleen' plates arranged in comb-like rows on their jaws. Blue whales can grow up to 30 metres in length.
But the fossil relative of these whales, Janjucetus hunderi, discovered in Jan Juc, Victoria, looks quite different. "It's almost like a whale from outer space: truly weird," says study author Erich Fitzgerald of Monash University in Clayton, Australia. "In overall appearance and lifestyle, it looks more like a modern leopard seal." The skull is just 50 centimetres long, meaning that the whale would be no larger than a bottle-nosed dolphin. The snout is foreshortened, quite unlike the surfboard-like elongated snouts of modern whales, which have adapted to increase their surface area for filter feeding. And the eye sockets are enormous relative to the whale's size.
Furthermore, Janjucetus has large sharp teeth but no baleen. Considering its shape and large eyes (providing good underwater vision), it looks as though this whale was a predator that ate large fish — possibly sharks and other whales, Fitzgerald speculates.
How, in that case, does Janjucetus count as a baleen whale? According to Fitzgerald, there are specialized features in the fossil whale's anatomy - where the snout meets the brain case, and at the base of the skull near the ear region — that are unique to baleen whales. And Janjucetus can't echolocate, a defining feature of modern toothed whales, such as sperm whales and dolphins.
The fossil was discovered by a teenager in the late 1990s, and fortunately was stored in Museum Victoria, Melbourne. There it languished, unstudied, until Fitzgerald found out about it in 2003. It took another three years to remove the fossil from the mudstone that encased it.
Janjucetus throws new light on the evolution of baleen whales. Such whales were already known to have originated from toothed whales; modern baleen whales go through a stage as embryos in which they have teeth. But there is a blank period in the fossil record between ancient toothed whales that lived 34 million years ago, and a profusion of various lineages of whale and dolphin — including baleen whales — that came into being around 25 million years ago.
It had been assumed that when this explosion of whale specialization happened, baleen whales all took the path of toothless filter feeders. The fact that this toothed whale lived alongside them contradicts this idea.
But the concept of a toothed baleen whale didn't really catch on. This species was in an evolutionary cul-de-sac that subsequently died out, whereas the sharks it may have fed upon have survived to the modern day.
(http://sectorgame.com/aldo/aw/whaleft.jpg)
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I had a really great picture of of all the fossil ancesters for whales we had found, but I cant find it. It was really good. I really should remember to save these pictures!
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4797679.stm?ls (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4797679.stm?ls)
More on the subject!
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iTIt was in the metro as well today, I searched the site accompanying the newspaper but i only found this from a while back......Bizarre, but LMAO anyway :lol:
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=4801&in_page_id=2
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Yup, I saw it in the Metro too, odd looking fishy..err... Mammal :)
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whales are so coool theyre fuxing 1337. i love whales. thay arr funkay in bed.
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iTIt was in the metro as well today, I searched the site accompanying the newspaper but i only found this from a while back......Bizarre, but LMAO anyway :lol:
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=4801&in_page_id=2
A DEAD SPERM whale being transported ...
Hmm...
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[hungover] Too early for my brain to translate the number writing thing, I just about managed to log on today. [/hungover] :eek:
Re Ferret, i never said it was the same story, ::)
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if yoiu drankl voka youd not be as jhung over, single msalt booze mofppoe, iotherwidse eatz smree carbomn :D
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Car bomb? :shaking:
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noz carbonz thant shiezt thant dimondnds are amaeo out of they maekz youz drinnki t when you z havez too much booz
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............................. COFFEE STAT !
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no im notz ready for da kofee but in a couplerz hourz maybeee
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[hungover] Too early for my brain to translate the number writing thing, I just about managed to log on today. [/hungover] :eek:
Re Ferret, i never said it was the same story, ::)
I was more pointing out their rather... coincidental.. choice of words to capitalise and bold.
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:wtf: Is Nuke actually drunk or is he just winding us up? :wtf:
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nopez. i thought vodka waz a week booze but i guess i jizcalcualtated. :D
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35-45% alcohol content is weak????? whats a strong drink where you are from??? :shaking:
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about 151 maybez moere, boiut oi didnt have nuf mony
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Okay Nuke, walk in a straight line and recite the alphabet backwards.
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z y x wobble w abc wobble z x y b q 2 4 9 wobble a yay i did it give me a cookie now :D
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:wtf: *Calls HLP Pubnwatch*
We need an E-Pub round here actually.....
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datsz a good plan too bad vuirooal booze doeznt get you drunxors
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I think the Nukemod master should start an e-pub, What you gonna call it ?
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i did it give me a cookie now :D
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6987/cookiepj9.jpg)
There, now piss-off you blasted wino! :p
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nukepub would be a goodz name butz i still think it needz to be ar eal pub with realz booooz
ooh are those makadamiaz?
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This is out of order, how did my whale article have something to do with drunkard and cookie and backward aphabets?? :confused:
(I'm amazed by how things could go so weird when people are drunk).
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oh that would be my fault fraggie (see http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,41717.0.html for my offitial apology). please resume discussing wild beasts :D dont hate me :nervous: