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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: neoterran on August 22, 2006, 11:22:52 pm

Title: ORION
Post by: neoterran on August 22, 2006, 11:22:52 pm
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CAPE CANAVERAL, Florida (AP) -- The name of the new vehicle that NASA hopes will take astronauts back to the moon was supposed to be hush-hush until next week.

But apparently U.S. astronaut Jeff Williams, floating 220 miles above Earth at the international space station, didn't get the memo.

Williams let it slip Tuesday that the new vehicle's name is Orion.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/22/nasa.spacecraft.ap/index.html

Yes, it's true. They're going to really build our beloved Orion !  ;)
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Dark Hunter on August 22, 2006, 11:25:13 pm
If only it really were our beloved 2km beam-bristling hulk symbol of Terran pride! :sigh:
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Turnsky on August 22, 2006, 11:30:44 pm
they can make it using some fridges.
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Sarafan on August 22, 2006, 11:38:50 pm
And here I go thinking its the Mech.  :(
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Charismatic on August 22, 2006, 11:42:20 pm
If only it really were our beloved 2km beam-bristling hulk symbol of Terran pride! :sigh:

That is so seconded. Our beloved symbol of Terran Pride!
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Mefustae on August 23, 2006, 01:13:12 am
Meh, they just changed it to Orion because Hypopheralcus was too much of a mouthful.
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Ace on August 23, 2006, 01:31:30 am
*grumbles* Somebody beat me to it...

Damn those lazy Air Force Colonels butchering the names of honored generals...
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Janos on August 23, 2006, 02:25:59 am
Well we all know what the theme song will be

duu dunn dunn duu dunn dunn duu dunn duu dunn dunn duu dunn dunn duu dunn duu dunn dunn duu dunn dunn duuuuuuu
duuu dunn dunn duu dunn dunn duuuuuu
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Aardwolf on August 23, 2006, 03:28:24 am
All I can think of is the ride of the valkyries, from that flying toasters screensaver, with karaoke text on. Anybody know what I'm talking about?
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: karajorma on August 23, 2006, 03:54:39 am
Hang on a sec. They're calling it Project Orion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_%28nuclear_propulsion%29)? :wtf:
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Mefustae on August 23, 2006, 04:21:14 am
Wait a minute, this sounds sorta expensive. I mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't the US think of paying off it's debts before launching [pun not intended] a big, expensive-sounding endeavour like this?
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Herra Tohtori on August 23, 2006, 04:44:39 am
I suppose they'll be using other contellations too, eventually. And that includes the Zodiac signs.

There are a bunch of cool names in the sky that we all know very well...

- Aries
- Taurus
- Gemini - bloody hell, they already used that one! :lol:
- Cancer
- Leo
- Virgo
- Libra
- Scorpius
- Sagittarius
- Capricornus
- Aquarius - damn, this one has been also used, it was the LEM in Apollo 13 mission.
- Pisces

That's just Zodiac signs... there are other *familiar* ones, too:

- Hercules
- Perseus (and Medusa's head is part of that constellation...)
- Auriga
- Centaurus
- Pegasus
- Ursa (Major and Minor)

Then there's some that have already been used - Aquila was the LEM of Apollo 11 (Eagle), and Antares (main star of Scorpius) was the call sign ot LEM in Apollo 14 mission.

But on the other hand, they might not care which name is used and which are not. After all, Orion was also the call sign of Apollo 16 Lunar Module. And Apollo 17 LEM was dubbed Challenger, which name was already re-used later on.


And of course we already have an Arcadia Installation here in Finland...

Btw, has anybody thought that it's actualyl quite a pun that Perseus, the advanced interceptor, is meant to kill bombers, and one bomber is named Medusa, who as a mythical character was killed by the original Perseus? :D


And talking about the original Orion Project... It'd be so cool if they finally utilized nuclear propulsion in their lunar crafts, but I doubt that's going to happen. So, unless the new craft uses nuclear propulsion, I suppose the original Project Orion is shleved and the project name has been taken into use by another project. :(


EDIT: And by the Lords of Kobol, of course they are going to name the rockets for manned and cargo Orion Ares I and Ares V... How do I get an impression that generic names are popular in space adminstration? :lol:
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Mars on August 23, 2006, 08:18:09 am
Wait a minute, this sounds sorta expensive. I mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't the US think of paying off it's debts before launching [pun not intended] a big, expensive-sounding endeavour like this?

Let's sell the ****in shuttles at an international garage sale to somone who will actually use them.
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Mathwiz6 on August 23, 2006, 08:47:53 am
I heard something about an ares ship... wait a sec

Aha, NASA is building a base on the moon! Or plans to...

Ah, the next gen space shuttle will be the Ares. Well, it'll turn like a potato....
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Janos on August 23, 2006, 10:42:40 am
I heard something about an ares ship... wait a sec

Aha, NASA is building a base on the moon! Or plans to...

Ah, the next gen space shuttle will be the Ares. Well, it'll turn like a potato....

... and God bless the firepower.
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: achtung on August 23, 2006, 03:11:37 pm
Wait a minute, this sounds sorta expensive. I mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't the US think of paying off it's debts before launching [pun not intended] a big, expensive-sounding endeavour like this?

Maybe they're hoping to find some natural resources or something?
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: KappaWing on August 23, 2006, 03:31:42 pm
Wait a minute, this sounds sorta expensive. I mean, correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't the US think of paying off it's debts before launching [pun not intended] a big, expensive-sounding endeavour like this?

Maybe they're hoping to find some natural resources or something?

lol. "Sceintists have recently discovered oil on the moon! Scentists were looking for life supporting water but no one was expecting something THIS much better!"
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Blue Lion on August 23, 2006, 05:24:34 pm
Didn't Atlantis call the name first?
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: TrashMan on August 25, 2006, 03:28:38 pm
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Sizes of Orion vehicles

A 1959 report by General Atomics[1] explored the parameters of three different sizes of hypothetical Orion spacecraft:
   "satellite"
Orion    "midrange"
Orion    "super"
Orion
Ship diameter    17-20 m    40 m    400 m
Ship mass    300 t    1-2000 t    8,000,000 t
Number of bombs    540    1080    1080
Individual bomb mass    0.22 t    0.37-0.75 t    3000 t

8,000,000 t ?????
They ARE friggin building a Orion :LOL:

Title: Re: ORION
Post by: aldo_14 on August 25, 2006, 04:03:04 pm
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Sizes of Orion vehicles

A 1959 report by General Atomics[1] explored the parameters of three different sizes of hypothetical Orion spacecraft:
   "satellite"
Orion    "midrange"
Orion    "super"
Orion
Ship diameter    17-20 m    40 m    400 m
Ship mass    300 t    1-2000 t    8,000,000 t
Number of bombs    540    1080    1080
Individual bomb mass    0.22 t    0.37-0.75 t    3000 t

8,000,000 t ?????
They ARE friggin building a Orion :LOL:



They were going to add a fighterbay, but it'd have made it 5 times bigger......
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Col. Fishguts on August 25, 2006, 04:13:49 pm
Didn't Atlantis call the name first?

Actually the Orion in SG:Atlantis was named after the legendary german SciFi series "Raumpatrouille Orion" from the sixties. It was short lived (only 7 episodes) but badass nonetheless.

The Atlantis producers named their Orion after a chat with a german journalist.
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: aldo_14 on August 25, 2006, 04:24:56 pm
Let's, er, not forget the mythological Orion, here.......
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Blue Lion on August 25, 2006, 05:40:52 pm
Well, it was a joke that the US had a ship called the Orion already...... but hey, it's cool

<runs crying>
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Bob-san on August 25, 2006, 05:47:35 pm
Personally, Terrans should name future crafts after Freespace ships! They should include a copy of Descent: Freespace, Silent Threat, Freespace 2, and Freespace Open on every new computer.

I would love to see a Terran fleet modeled after the Freespace crafts!

I would die and go to heaven to see a Hercules in-action!! I would pay any ammount of money to see an Orion-class Destroyer in-action! I am sure many of us would pay anything to see a Freespace ship in-action before our very eyes!
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Dark Hunter on August 25, 2006, 06:11:03 pm
I would! Even if it only an Apollo, I would pay many many dollars to see one of them!
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Bob-san on August 25, 2006, 06:47:13 pm
If I ever become world dicator, I will definately start a space fleet! Expect a Freespace-style fleet based in Sol!
Title: Re: ORION
Post by: Janos on August 26, 2006, 01:30:29 am
If I ever become world dicator, I will definately start a space fleet! Expect a Freespace-style fleet based in Sol!

i would shoot you in the face