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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kamikaze on August 24, 2006, 03:26:41 am
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Video: http://alternet.org/blogs/video/40755/
PDF: http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/12/images/CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf
Edit: Apparently this is pretty old (from 2004), but I never saw any media coverage of it. Still pretty intriguing/scary.
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quick, delete this thread before kazan gets ahold of it.
*dawns combat helmet and jumps in a foxhole*
:D
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****ing Americans.
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****ing Americans.
Yep. I think that was the plan.
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Video: http://alternet.org/blogs/video/40755/
PDF: http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/12/images/CC_Affidavit_120604.pdf
Edit: Apparently this is pretty old (from 2004), but I never saw any media coverage of it. Still pretty intriguing/scary.
Do you ever wonder why it didn't see any media coverage?
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This doesn't suprise me at all. A few months prior to the 2004 election, Bush sent 6 e-voting machines (there are 3 types, 2 of each) to the NSA for "security validation." The NSA found multiple ways to break into the machines and alter the election results. Methods included swapping out the flash drives they used to ones containing bogus election data, outright hacking, etc.
The movie is probably the result of the above "research."
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****ing Americans.
what exactly does that mean?
im not sure, but just in case, **** you
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****ing Americans.
what exactly does that mean?
im not sure, but just in case, **** you
I believe it was exasperation at a country seemingly rampant with political dirty tricks, corruption and inequality attempting to dictat the policies of other countries with a holier-than-thou attitude towards even free, democratic nations.
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yes well then he could say somthin to the effect of '****ing american polititians' but by generalizing it to that he calls out all of us who have nothing to do with the situation and therefore he can suck my left nut
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Sounds more like an Oprah show than a hearing.
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yes well then he could say somthin to the effect of '****ing american polititians' but by generalizing it to that he calls out all of us who have nothing to do with the situation and therefore he can suck my left nut
Americans elect these politicians. :p
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yes well then he could say somthin to the effect of '****ing american polititians' but by generalizing it to that he calls out all of us who have nothing to do with the situation and therefore he can suck my left nut
Americans elect these politicians. :p
If vote fraud is the case, then no, not so much.
Seems like anyone from any nation is capable of hating America, but never looking in on their own country.
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yes well then he could say somthin to the effect of '****ing american polititians' but by generalizing it to that he calls out all of us who have nothing to do with the situation and therefore he can suck my left nut
Or you could view it as a commentary on the tacit acceptance of it by a population, the majority of whom should be enraged by such shenanigans.
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If vote fraud is the case, then no, not so much.
Heh, oops. Didn't catch the irony there.
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I believe it was exasperation at a country seemingly rampant with political dirty tricks, corruption and inequality attempting to dictat the policies of other countries with a holier-than-thou attitude towards even free, democratic nations.
Since when are there other free nations? I thought the world hated us because of our freedom. Doesn't "America" mean "freedom" in ancient Grecian or something?
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I believe it was exasperation at a country seemingly rampant with political dirty tricks, corruption and inequality attempting to dictat the policies of other countries with a holier-than-thou attitude towards even free, democratic nations.
Since when are there other free nations? I thought the world hated us because of our freedom. Doesn't "America" mean "freedom" in ancient Grecian or something?
I thought it meant 'Eat Hamburgers and Shoot Guns' or something.
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yes well then he could say somthin to the effect of '****ing american polititians' but by generalizing it to that he calls out all of us who have nothing to do with the situation and therefore he can suck my left nut
Or you could view it as a commentary on the tacit acceptance of it by a population, the majority of whom should be enraged by such shenanigans.
You're kidding, right? Most of the country is outraged by voter fraud -- the Republicans accuse the Democrats, and the Democrats accuse the Republicans. Everyone pisses equally at everyone else that their candidate had fraudulent votes aiding their campaign. Most people aren't pissy about it anymore due to the upcoming elections, but they sure will be afterwards.
I believe it was exasperation at a country seemingly rampant with political dirty tricks, corruption and inequality attempting to dictat the policies of other countries with a holier-than-thou attitude towards even free, democratic nations.
Since when are there other free nations? I thought the world hated us because of our freedom. Doesn't "America" mean "freedom" in ancient Grecian or something?
I thought it meant 'Eat Hamburgers and Shoot Guns' or something.
Said the man who lives in a country where men wear skirts and eat sheep intestine.
Yes, I know they're not called skirts, but as long as we're stereotyping...
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yes well then he could say somthin to the effect of '****ing american polititians' but by generalizing it to that he calls out all of us who have nothing to do with the situation and therefore he can suck my left nut
Or you could view it as a commentary on the tacit acceptance of it by a population, the majority of whom should be enraged by such shenanigans.
You're kidding, right? Most of the country is outraged by voter fraud -- the Republicans accuse the Democrats, and the Democrats accuse the Republicans. Everyone pisses equally at everyone else that their candidate had fraudulent votes aiding their campaign. Most people aren't pissy about it anymore due to the upcoming elections, but they sure will be afterwards.
Sorry, I must have missed the massive public protests, then.
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yes well then he could say somthin to the effect of '****ing american polititians' but by generalizing it to that he calls out all of us who have nothing to do with the situation and therefore he can suck my left nut
Or you could view it as a commentary on the tacit acceptance of it by a population, the majority of whom should be enraged by such shenanigans.
You're kidding, right? Most of the country is outraged by voter fraud -- the Republicans accuse the Democrats, and the Democrats accuse the Republicans. Everyone pisses equally at everyone else that their candidate had fraudulent votes aiding their campaign. Most people aren't pissy about it anymore due to the upcoming elections, but they sure will be afterwards.
Sorry, I must have missed the massive public protests, then.
Yeah, because it's not as if we have elections every two years to give the people a chance to remove the politicians. That would just be too easy a solution, you know?
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You could have elections every day and it wouldn't matter if they are fixed :p
You're kidding, right? Most of the country is outraged by voter fraud -- the Republicans accuse the Democrats, and the Democrats accuse the Republicans. Everyone pisses equally at everyone else that their candidate had fraudulent votes aiding their campaign. Most people aren't pissy about it anymore due to the upcoming elections, but they sure will be afterwards.
Yeah. Those democrats. Rigging voting machines so that they lose elections. They're clever bastards, no mistake. :rolleyes:
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Their plan backfired, duh! :p
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or maybe they wanted an asshole in the office for 8 years to soften it up for hillary :D
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Yeah. Those democrats. Rigging voting machines so that they lose elections. They're clever bastards, no mistake. :rolleyes:
They didn't find the right person to bribe in time. This time. Don't worry, they'll find him in time eventually. :p
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You're kidding, right? Most of the country is outraged by voter fraud -- the Republicans accuse the Democrats, and the Democrats accuse the Republicans. Everyone pisses equally at everyone else that their candidate had fraudulent votes aiding their campaign. Most people aren't pissy about it anymore due to the upcoming elections, but they sure will be afterwards
I remember when this was first being talked about, all the way back in 2004......there was no outrage, no demonstrations, no nothing. It only got a vague mention in the media, and after that, total silence. No one talked about it, or else they would be called "sore losers". The bottom line is that this testimony did not even make it to the media, and that says a lot about the "outrage". There is no outrage, most american people don't care about their government anymore.
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****ing Americans.
what exactly does that mean?
im not sure, but just in case, **** you
It was exasperation towards a people that have allowed a once-great nation to go completely down the toilet. Blanket statements over an entire people are quite fitting when an entire people are to blame.
Oh, and taking something you find insulting and throwing it right back at me? How very American of you. :rolleyes:
yes well then he could say somthin to the effect of '****ing american polititians' but by generalizing it to that he calls out all of us who have nothing to do with the situation and therefore he can suck my left nut
If I meant to say "****ing american politicians", I would have. When I said "****ing Americans, I meant exactly what I said. Remember, the People don't serve Politicians, Politicians serve the People. When a nation goes as far as the US has, only the people are to blame. Exactly who do you think maintains the power of politicians?
I mean, if this were the 60's, there'd be millions marching in the streets every damn week! But alas, the American people have allowed themselves to be cowed into a perpetual state of perpetual fear; afraid to do anything, and convinced they can't do anything. I don't understand how you can just absolve yourself of all responsibility and blame for what has happened these past few years.
In short, you claim to have nothing to do with the "situation", but I say you have everything to do with it.
And, again, if you feel insulted, all you needed to have done is calmly tell me so and I would have apologised. Unfortunately you seem to prefer insulting, knee-jerk reactions that do nothing but enflame the situation. I would like to ask you to kindly refrain from such actions in the future.
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Unfortunately you seem to prefer insulting, knee-jerk reactions that do nothing but enflame the situation.
Republicans are all like that. :p
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Now, now, let's not make snap judgements of his political orientation. Anyway, I don't even see how that enters into the discussion, it's not like a single political group is to blame for this whole snafu.
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Now, now, let's not make snap judgements of his political orientation. Anyway, I don't even see how that enters into the discussion, it's not like a single political group is to blame for this whole snafu.
Indeed, but you seriously think anyone is going to be held accountable?
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Touché. Rather sad commentary on the state of society, really.
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Yeah, because it's not as if we have elections every two years to give the people a chance to remove the politicians. That would just be too easy a solution, you know?
Subject topic?
You can have all the elections you want, if the systems' flawed and the (perceivably electable) candidates are **** it makes not a jot of difference. Hell, we have the same problem here.
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Unfortunately you seem to prefer insulting, knee-jerk reactions that do nothing but enflame the situation.
Republicans are all like that. :p
Are you a republican then? :p