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Title: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: TrashMan on September 10, 2006, 03:58:03 pm
I'm on the roll. Just finished another installation - this time a pure military one.

http://hades-combine.com/web/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=234

This one has got teeth - big time.
8x3 Terran Heavy Turret, 4 BGreens and 46 smalelr turrets + 4 fighterbays.
All fighterbays are pathed, as well as two dockpoints. Has also glows, LOD's and debris.
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2324/nareosscreencs4.th.jpg) (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nareosscreencs4.jpg)

EDIT - rar file updated with the smoothing fixed model.
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Flipside on September 10, 2006, 04:25:41 pm
Looks good :)

There's still something about the lighting in FS2 that looks 'wrong' to me for some reason. Was that material given a smooth value?
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Taristin on September 10, 2006, 05:16:13 pm
I think it's how the model was smooth shaded. He uses TS, and TS doesnt seperate smoothgroups automatically. You'd have to manually assign each flat surface, or pair of surfaces and then paint them specifically to get hard edges. It would seem that that wasnt done, and thats why every right angle is rounded, in regards to the textures and light castings.
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Mobius on September 10, 2006, 05:33:14 pm
Excellent model,but it's textures....
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: TrashMan on September 10, 2006, 05:36:50 pm
The strange this is - I don't recall smooth shadin it.. hmmm

Will look up the TS scene tomorrow. :wtf:
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Mobius on September 10, 2006, 05:46:37 pm
I noticed you have created another installation,the Aeglos.
Are you going to bring the entire JRRT Universe to FreeSpace?
Be advised that I used these names:
Gilraen-Glaurung-Smaug-Gothmog-Ancalagon-Meneldur(this one is a nick I usually use)
And probably many other I don't remember.
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Scooby_Doo on September 10, 2006, 08:00:04 pm
Ohh I do like the bright bridge windows.  All it needs is people shadows :-)
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Getter Robo G on September 10, 2006, 08:10:39 pm
Hell, it needs a special debris model so slews of Terrans and Zogs are floating around and bouncing off my hull!

Har har, a Pirates life for me!  :D
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on September 10, 2006, 10:48:28 pm
Smoothing is handled rather oddly between truespace and PCS, but it's important to get right or else you can end up with those hard angles being smoothed, which looks hideous. Try using Bobboau's auto-facet build of PCS here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,18798.0.html

Also, considering the symmetry present in this model, you really would be better off using a single big UV map. Not only would it allow you to put a lot more detail into the textures, but it would reduce your texture count from 12 to 1.

I'd highly recommend you read through Taylors thread here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,37158.0.html) for a set of guidelines for building efficient models. It explains all sorts of things - like why you should almost always use DDS textures. ;)
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Mad Bomber on September 11, 2006, 08:04:53 am
Har har, a Pirates life for me!  :D

...and really bad eggs...

... drink up, me hearties, yo ho!
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 11, 2006, 09:04:08 am
+5 again.............I expect more in another hour now. :nod:
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: TrashMan on September 11, 2006, 04:07:55 pm
Thanks.. I'll try to re-convert it with the autofacet build. Strangely enough I don't recall having such problem with other models...

@LieutenantGeneralMobius - LOL Don't worry. I usually make up my own names. For instance Nareos should mena (if I got it correctly) Fire Fort:
nar - fire
os(t) - fort

I can check it in a instant. My cousin is one of the greatest experts on Tolkiens languages. B.t.w. - ever translated your name to Quenya?
Mine is Lotion Maradaro (alltough I use Soronarr as last name)

EDIT - on another note, I was planing to put the HLT Athena (or Athena 2) up for download tonihg, but I was feeling bad all day so I havn't finished UV mapping it yet. Since it's not a complete copy, some parts are a bit harder to UV Map. Here's hte curent progress:

(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/9977/athenaadvnb9.th.jpg) (http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=athenaadvnb9.jpg)


Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Mobius on September 11, 2006, 04:17:43 pm
My name is Leron(Francis),I have two other names but I don't remember the translation(except for Antonio=Loton )
I find it in a Italian site about JRRT.I found a full vocabulary.It's eldalie.it
Nar-ost
Narost.
But -nar is Quenya while -ost is Sindarin if I remember well...or not?
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: TrashMan on September 11, 2006, 04:58:27 pm
My name is Leron(Francis),I have two other names but I don't remember the translation(except for Antonio=Loton )
I find it in a Italian site about JRRT.I found a full vocabulary.It's eldalie.it
Nar-ost
Narost.
But -nar is Quenya while -ost is Sindarin if I remember well...or not?

Not sure. Will have to check that one.
I cna allways change the name, there are a lot of good combinations possible.

minas - tower
ruth - wrath
val - power
tir - to oserve, to watch
tol - isnalnd
sil - glow of Fun and Moon, intense whitish reflection
ril - glitter
aglar - glory
alqua - swan
anca - jaws
carak - fang
dae - shadow
del - horror
draug - wolf
el, elen, gil - star
faroth - to chase, to hunt
fea - spirit
gond - rock
gurth - death
heru - lord
hith - fog
ia - abyss
kir - to cut
los - snow
maeg - sharp
menel - heaven
mor - black, dark
nim - white
ring - cold
ruin - red flame
sereg - blood
sul - wind
tar - huge
tel - the end
thoron - eagle
til - peak, horn, spike



And b.t.w, my real name is Toni..strange the latin root of my name...flower.
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: TrashMan on September 11, 2006, 06:23:10 pm
I used the atuo-facet PCS build and it works.
The only problem is that it chrashed whenver I wanted to import the glows, so I had to re-do them manually!
File at HC is updated..

P.S. - The HTL Athena mapping is nearly done. Now where are those pilot models?

Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Mobius on September 11, 2006, 06:49:07 pm
Toni?Mt third name is Antonio(the same)and in Quenya becomes Loton.

Anthurium is a species of flower and possibly the name Anonio comes from it(there's an Anthurium Prize every summer near the place where I live).

Thanks to this mini-vocabulary,I learned some English words...I knew their meaning only in Quenya and Italian!


Not Off Topic:My facet PCs doesn't work.Where I have to place it exactly?
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on September 11, 2006, 07:32:05 pm
I used the atuo-facet PCS build and it works.
The only problem is that it chrashed whenver I wanted to import the glows, so I had to re-do them manually!
Oh, only use it for the cob-pof conversion - use Kaz's latest 1.3.6 to do all importing and editing - especially of glowpoints, since that's the main thing that's been fixed between the two versions.
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Mobius on September 11, 2006, 07:46:03 pm
Can you give us a DL link,maybe my PCS is old...

Narost is correct.
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on September 11, 2006, 10:14:58 pm
http://www.ferrium.org/misc/PCS_1.3.6_b73_20060408.zip

*goes to add link to wiki*
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: TrashMan on September 12, 2006, 09:39:53 am
Not Off Topic:My facet PCs doesn't work.Where I have to place it exactly?

You need to place it in the PCS directory next to the original exe (it won't overwrite it)...that's assuming you have 1.3.4 or 1.3.6 installed.

and actually the correct version would be Narosto..
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Colonol Dekker on September 12, 2006, 09:42:58 am
Rofl Taraglarminas :lol:
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Getter Robo G on September 12, 2006, 12:48:37 pm
BTW is that instllation an evolution of the Valhalla? (a better mapped, HTL one?)
It looks awfly familiar...  ;)

(And are you Toni Salami? I got no profiel on this guy and teh only messages I;ve gotten over teh last year on messenger is HI...)... I asked is he was from sci-fi meshes.com and he said yea and nothing else...

 :lol:
Title: Re: GTI Nareos released!
Post by: Mobius on September 12, 2006, 05:00:51 pm
Narosto is too italian.Salami too!