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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Polpolion on September 10, 2006, 09:29:38 pm
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Look on page 2 and 3 up.
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Point?
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Point?
He thinks this forum is now his own personal blog.
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Oh my god, I'm wasted or stoned or something.
No, you're only saying you are because it makes you look like less on an idiot.
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Oh boy! Sizzler, tell us more about your life! We really want to know! Are you well? Have you asked that cute girl out yet? How's the cafeteria food? Is 9th grade treating you well? WE REALLY CARE!
Except not really.
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For some reason I <3 sarcasm more than usual tonight.
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Why did I think this was about PayPal's British version?
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That's what I thought at first too :p
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Why did I think this was about PayPal's British version?
Because like many mistaken foriegners you thought that anything from Britain must be called English.
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Why did I think this was about PayPal's British version?
Because like many mistaken foriegners you thought that anything from Britain must be called English.
And that's an incorrect statement?
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Yes. :wtf:
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Why? :nervous:
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Indeed, I thought Britain was England, or at least by far the most important part.
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The word United in UK should have given you a clue as to the depths of your mistake.
What you've done is the same as assuming that anyone from the US is a Texan.
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What you've done is the same as assuming that anyone from the US is a Texan.
They aren't? :nervous:
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Well gul'darn it.........
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The word United in UK should have given you a clue as to the depths of your mistake.
What you've done is the same as assuming that anyone from the US is a Texan.
I know, I know, i'm just riling up the resident non-Brit English peeps. Still, I maintain that Britain is the money-England.
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Sorry... :sigh:
You can see where the confusion comes from though... 83.6% of the UK population in England.
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Yay ! :D England FTW...........
(another thread spins off into the abyss)
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Sorry... :sigh:
You can see where the confusion comes from though... 83.6% of the UK population in England.
Oh, stop apologising. This is the internet, you only apologise if you just goatse'd the thread, and even then you don't mean it.
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That was low.. (http://forums.adventchildren.net/images/smilies/shakehead.gif)
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Whit you sayin ya wee dobber?!
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I never could rememer what the difference was between Great Britain and England...
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Great Britain is England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales (jersey and Geurnsey as well, but that's complex)
England is just one (albeit the largest) of them.
England has people who think of the other countries as 'lesser', the other countries has people who think of us as the Soviet Union and themselves as the Ukraine, whereas Northern Ireland is the only country that even comes close to having any claim in that department, and even then, more in history than the present.
So in summary, the United Kingdom is a group of countries full of bigots who have no need to understand the other countries because they already have a handy set of stereotypes... Just like about every other 'group of Nations' really.
I think that about sums it up.
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That was low.. *snip*
Someone still hasnt learned about hotlinking I see... :rolleyes:
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Great Britain is England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales (jersey and Geurnsey as well, but that's complex)
England is just one (albeit the largest) of them.
Great Britain includes Northern Ireland? Isn't Great Britain just... the large island?
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The main land mass, the channel islands and northern island plus isle of man and isle of sheppy and isle of white.
Also the hundred of scottish islands too..
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See?! Its not only Americans who know **** about geography!
(For the record, I did and still do know what is being discussed here.)
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The main land mass, the channel islands and northern island plus isle of man and isle of sheppy and isle of white.
Also the hundred of scottish islands too..
Aren't you confusing the UK with Great Britain?
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:shaking: Dont say things like that........
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Er... it's The United Kingdom of Great Britain, right? I would think GB and UK are interchangeable, just not GB and England.
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Er... it's The United Kingdom of Great Britain, right? I would think GB and UK are interchangeable, just not GB and England.
*sigh*
It's the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northen Ireland.
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:o Oops, okay. That's probably a lot closer than most Americans would get anyway.
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:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
What the hell? I never posted this!! :mad: :mad: Are you guys hacking my computer or something?? :mad: :mad: :mad:
Admins? I never posted this...
It looks like this was posted just after I posted in the 9/11 thread, but I left to do some homework?! I swear, I'm serious. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
EDIT: I found it out. When I left to do some HW I left my computer on and "forever" login length set, and so what'd you know? My brother comes in and starts posting my stuff with my handle. So, no hackers on here, thankfully. I would still like this thread to be locked, though, or better yet, deleted all together. No hard feelings? :)
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(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b319/Mistah_Kurtz/the_net.jpg)
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Okay I geuss yes hard feelings.
:( *sniff snifff* meanies *cries
[/sarcasam] :) :nervous:
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But really, I'm confused lol. What part is england, what part is the U.K., and what part is great britain? I've always thought they meant that general area of england lol.
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England is England, Britain is England and Scotland, the UK is England, Scotland, and Ireland, and it's all in hell.
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jesus christ
UK is the islands
England is the lower shtitty part of the islands
Scotland is the upper cooler part of the islands
and ireland and wales are on that lill island to the left
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UK is the islands
England is the lower shtitty part of the islands
Scotland is the upper cooler part of the islands
ireland and wales are on that lill island to the left
No.
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9902/14/lockerbie/great.britain.map.jpg (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9902/14/lockerbie/great.britain.map.jpg)
Good God.
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jesus christ
UK is the islands
England is the lower shtitty part of the islands
Scotland is the upper cooler part of the islands
and ireland and wales are on that lill island to the left
I rest my case about what I said earlier..... And yea, Wales is in West, Ireland is to the 'far West', which is nearer than the Middle East... :nervous:
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The UK is the four countries.
Great Britain is a defunct term for the British Empire in the short period between WW1 and it's total collapse. The term is now used solely at sporting events as a pseudonym for the British Isles, so that members of the various teams can be representative of the United Kingdom without having been born within the borders of one of the 4 main countries.
The British Isles are the four main countries and all the neighbouring islands.
Or if you're too stupid to remember that: If it's got anything to do with the Queen, it's Great Britain (or the Commonwealth). If it doesn't, it's the United Kingdom.
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Isn't geography fun? :p
Anyway.
England is the home of the lager louts, overweight powerhungry jackals (the government), unhappy but timid middle class and rich, snobbish types (mostly to be found in the SE areas).
North Ireland holds those who hate eachother and the English.
Scotland holds those who hate the English.
The other miscellaneous islands have the good sense to keep quiet and pretend they're not involved.
I hate my country. Can you tell?
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There is no Ireland
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Isn't geography fun? :p
Anyway.
England is the home of the lager louts, overweight powerhungry jackals (the government), unhappy but timid middle class and rich, snobbish types (mostly to be found in the SE areas).
North Ireland holds those who hate eachother and the English.
Scotland holds those who hate the English.
The other miscellaneous islands have the good sense to keep quiet and pretend they're not involved.
I hate my country. Can you tell?
Where do the crazy poor people who think that everyone in the world will treat them as second class, even before they meet them, simply because they're poorer than they are? (Bad experience with pain in the ass British girl).
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EDIT: I found it out. When I left to do some HW I left my computer on and "forever" login length set, and so what'd you know? My brother comes in and starts posting my stuff with my handle. So, no hackers on here, thankfully. I would still like this thread to be locked, though, or better yet, deleted all together. No hard feelings? :)
Haha, your brother is awesome. It's what I'd have done in his place.
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Ok. I think I got it. England is the capital of London, right?
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Where's the lockage?
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Isn't geography fun? :p
Anyway.
England is the home of the lager louts, overweight powerhungry jackals (the government), unhappy but timid middle class and rich, snobbish types (mostly to be found in the SE areas).
North Ireland holds those who hate eachother and the English.
Scotland holds those who hate the English.
The other miscellaneous islands have the good sense to keep quiet and pretend they're not involved.
I hate my country. Can you tell?
You're a true ambassador for our nation Kal. :p
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Ok. I think I got it. England is the capital of London, right?
Almost, London is the capital of Scotland....
*runs*
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WHAT? some Brits here even got it wrong??! err well british isles dwellers...
Sandy can testify that I came in because he was laughing at this thread and explained to me what the whole issue was and I told him correctly what each one was as is seen below:
From Wikipedia
United Kingdom:
is a country and sovereign state that lies off the northwest coast of mainland Europe. Its territory and population are primarily situated on the island of Great Britain and in Northern Ireland on the island of Ireland, with settlements on numerous smaller islands in the surrounding seas.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Location-UnitedKingdom.PNG)
Great Britain:
Great Britain is also used as a geopolitical term describing the combination of England, Scotland, and Wales, which together comprise the entire island and some outlying islands. (GB DOES NOT INCLUDE N. Ireland! HAH!)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/LocationIslandGreatBritain.png)
And England is England
Shame on you british isles dwellers who got it wrong!
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Ugh, I hate people getting this all confused (I called a Welsh city English once and realized just how stupid it was).
London -- > England
Edinburgh -- > Scotland
Cardiff -- > Wales
Belfast -- > Northern Ireland
E, S, W, NI all make up the United Kingdom. Britain is the island comprising England, Scotland, and Wales, England being the largest country.
Understandable, it's somewhat confusing to non-Brits, but in reality it sounds as ridiculuous as refering to the US by one of its states.
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Ya' know what, admins and mods? Never mind about the lockage. I would still apreciate it if the posts up until the geography stuff was 'changed' to something lessv revealing of my slight incompitency.
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Problem is, this country has been subdivided so many times, for example, I have a Hertfordshire phone number, a London Postcode, and I live in Middlesex, which doesn't exist any more.
That's why people get confused ;)
Edit : And how many damn names is this thread going to go through? :p
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It doesn't matter. You all drink lukewarm beer, which is basically on par with terrorism.
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At least we can spell culur :nervous:
Yes, that's deliberate.....
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Don't you guys over there have any geography skillz?
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Thanks, bro. ;)
Ok, now that we know what each physically is, what's the governmental relationships and realm of authorities between them all? :D
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:lol: Our own government would struggle on that one ;)
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Wikipedia has a nice diagram explaining it all here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_%28terminology%29)
Yes the distinction between Great Britain and UK can be confusing but there's no real excuse for confusing England and UK.
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Thanks, bro. ;)
Ok, now that we know what each physically is, what's the governmental relationships and realm of authorities between them all? :D
Westminster is the primary legislature of the United Kingdom, with certain local issues being devolved to a Parliament in Scotland and an Assembly in Wales. N. Ireland has an assembly but years of unrest since the Good Friday agreement has led to its suspension.
Local councils have authority to implement local policy, but cannot do things such as create new crimes or in any way pass legally binding acts outwith their remit: I.E. Part of Glasgow City Council can decide what speed limits to put on a road in Glasgow, or another part can decide where to spend the most money on trash collection; They cannot however set those speed limits above the nationally legislated limit of 70MPH, nor can they decide to terminate all domestic trash collection on a whim.
The House of Commons (UK Parliament) and I believe Local councils are elected using the First Past The Post system, whereas the Scottish Parliament (and I believe the welsh assembly) are elected using Proportional Representation (it is argued that this has allowed a lot of smaller parties to gain a voice in the parliament, but there is dispute as to its true representation of the electorate).
The Scottish Parliament does not "answer" to Westminster in the truest meaning of the word, but depending on who is in power at any one time the First Minister (Scotland) will often defer to the will of the Prime Minister (UK) if they are political allies or of the same party. Several issues are reserved for action at Westminster only, such as defence.
Finally, there is an unelected body called the House of Lords, which is based on inherited and granted titles (Peerages). This body has the final say on all legislation passed by Westminter Parliament.* While from the outset having an unelected body decide the final fate of bills passed by an elected one may seem dangerous and undemocratic there have been occasions where they have proven their worth: A recent example is their opposition to National Identity Card systems; While a shameful compromise was eventually agreed, the Lords had at least slowed the process down. Additionally, they prevented a British version of the Patriot Act (including the right to hold suspects without trial for over 30 days - the antithesis of British justice!) from passing - some, myself included, are grateful for that. The Magna Carta has a lot to answer for, eh?
*In principle the Queen must also ratify all legislation to be presented before Parliament at the start of each legislative year, but in practise she would never be allowed to publicly oppose the duly elected government.
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Devolved is a poor choice of word there, I would have used deffered.........
The Queen needs to pull her finger out and act a bit more She-Ra /Xena/Red Sonia etc....... :nod:
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Australia could do with a House of Lords actually...
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You got a Prime minisiter If i remember my Simpsons correctly :)
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Yes, but there's no unelected elite standing in his way if he wants to pass something controversial.
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Geophraphy/Earth Science terms
Great Briton = the island
British Isles = the entire chain of islands
Ireland = Island
Political/cultural borders
England = Largest country on GB, in the S/SE
Wales = Country in the western part of GB - roughly a triangle, bordered by (clockwise from east) England, Water, Water
Scotland: Northern part of the island of GB
N. Ireland = small part of the island of Ireland that is part of the UK
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Geophraphy/Earth Science terms
Great Briton = the island
Nay Methinks........
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Westminster is the primary legislature of the United Kingdom, with certain local issues being devolved to a Parliament in Scotland and an Assembly in Wales. N. Ireland has an assembly but years of unrest since the Good Friday agreement has led to its suspension.
Local councils have authority to implement local policy, but cannot do things such as create new crimes or in any way pass legally binding acts outwith their remit: I.E. Part of Glasgow City Council can decide what speed limits to put on a road in Glasgow, or another part can decide where to spend the most money on trash collection; They cannot however set those speed limits above the nationally legislated limit of 70MPH, nor can they decide to terminate all domestic trash collection on a whim.
The House of Commons (UK Parliament) and I believe Local councils are elected using the First Past The Post system, whereas the Scottish Parliament (and I believe the welsh assembly) are elected using Proportional Representation (it is argued that this has allowed a lot of smaller parties to gain a voice in the parliament, but there is dispute as to its true representation of the electorate).
The Scottish Parliament does not "answer" to Westminster in the truest meaning of the word, but depending on who is in power at any one time the First Minister (Scotland) will often defer to the will of the Prime Minister (UK) if they are political allies or of the same party. Several issues are reserved for action at Westminster only, such as defence.
Finally, there is an unelected body called the House of Lords, which is based on inherited and granted titles (Peerages). This body has the final say on all legislation passed by Westminter Parliament.* While from the outset having an unelected body decide the final fate of bills passed by an elected one may seem dangerous and undemocratic there have been occasions where they have proven their worth: A recent example is their opposition to National Identity Card systems; While a shameful compromise was eventually agreed, the Lords had at least slowed the process down. Additionally, they prevented a British version of the Patriot Act (including the right to hold suspects without trial for over 30 days - the antithesis of British justice!) from passing - some, myself included, are grateful for that. The Magna Carta has a lot to answer for, eh?
*In principle the Queen must also ratify all legislation to be presented before Parliament at the start of each legislative year, but in practise she would never be allowed to publicly oppose the duly elected government.
Holy Mary mother of God and all her wacky nephews! No wonder you.... people (don't even know what to call you anymore :lol:) are so pissed about the rebellious colony of America! :wakka:
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It's amazing how many people get on a soapbox about the details of our country's political make-up after
looking it up. It's either one country or four countries with seven different names, multiple boroughs, many of which don't exist, and yet still have Football/Cricket and Rugby clubs, 2 Governments, 4 political situations, umpteen political parties and people seem to think that we can instantly recall details on command.
Yeah.
As an example, go up to an Orange Marcher in Northern Ireland and tell him he's not English. The outcome would depend on how close you are to a Hospital. Go up to some Scots and tell them they are British, they will deny it vehemently.
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Go up to some Celtic fans and tell them they're Scottish and the first thing they'll do is declare how Irish they really are.
There are parts of this nation I'd rather just forget, unfortunately the UN won't allow it...
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Tell any inhabitant of the UK that they're technically descendants of ze Germans and you'll get a bloody nose ;)
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Great Briton = the island
Nay, Great Briton = an absolutely dandy inhabitant of Great Britain, perhaps.
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Tell any inhabitant of the UK that they're technically descendants of ze Germans and you'll get a bloody nose ;)
You'll definitely get one from me seeing as how my parents weren't born there :p
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Ok, now that we know what each physically is, what's the governmental relationships and realm of authorities between them all? :D
Well, that's pretty straightforward. Northern Ireland is North, England is East, Wales is West, and Scotland is South. The first letter of the country corresponds to the direction, see.
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*In principle the Queen must also ratify all legislation to be presented before Parliament at the start of each legislative year, but in practise she would never be allowed to publicly oppose the duly elected government.
And did you know the only place the Queen is not allowed to step foot in within GB is the House of Commons?
And Goob, im not even going to say it.
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*In principle the Queen must also ratify all legislation to be presented before Parliament at the start of each legislative year, but in practise she would never be allowed to publicly oppose the duly elected government.
And did you know the only place the Queen is not allowed to step foot in within GB is the House of Commons?
And Goob, im not even going to say it.
Not entirely:
State Opening of Parliament
Black Rod is best known for his part in the ceremonies surrounding the State Opening of Parliament and the Throne speech. He summons the Commons to attend the speech and leads them to the Lords. As part of the ritual, as Black Rod approaches the doors to the chamber of the House of Commons to make his summons, they are slammed in his face. This is to symbolise the Commons' independence of the Sovereign. Black Rod then strikes the door three times with his staff, and in reply to the challenge "Who is there?" answers "Black Rod". He is then admitted and issues the summons of the monarch to attend. This ritual is derived from the attempt by Charles I of England to arrest five members in 1642, in what was seen as a breach of privilege, though strictly the King was entitled to enter the chamber. After that incident, the House of Commons has maintained its right to question the right of the monarch's representative to enter their chamber, though they can not bar him from entering with lawful authority.
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That just means the King has free entry with unfettered/unrestricted access.
Doesnt mean he can lay down the law. :P
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This is true, I'm just stating the monarch can indeed enter.
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Quite right, but the common man cant walk a pig across tower bridge on a tesday in the prescence of a policeman or he risks his head being put on a spike at the tower of London..
Strange but true..
Also you cant steal a policemans hat whilest he's on duty but as soon as he clocks off it's fair game. :nod:
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And Goob, im not even going to say it.
*Whoosh*
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