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Title: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: martellato on September 14, 2006, 12:11:33 pm
FreeSpace 2 had an interesting voice cast, as recorded on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289708/fullcredits).

The cast included Robert Loggia as Admiral Petrarch (Independence Day, Sopranos, Lost Highway), Ronny Cox as Admiral Aken Bosch (Murder at 1600, Stargate SG-1), Kurtwood Smith (“Red” on that 70’s show! :pimp:), and Stephen Baldwin (um... Bio-Dome…  :wtf:).

I've got to go back to single player just find "Red" yelling at me... I can't wait.  ;)
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Mobius on September 14, 2006, 01:50:59 pm
Then?For me they're just expensive actors who made their contribute to FS' downfall.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Taristin on September 14, 2006, 02:04:10 pm
How did they contribute to it's downfall? Explain yourself when you make rash statements like that...
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Shade on September 14, 2006, 02:09:16 pm
I'd rather say they contributed to FS2's greatness. It wouldn't be anywhere near as captivating if not for the superlative voice acting. What made it fail in the stores was Interplay not marketing it at all, so noone had a clue it existed unless they stumbled upon it by accident or read a (spectacular) review of it in a magazine. Which isn't exactly the best recipe for a blockbuster.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Mobius on September 14, 2006, 02:23:10 pm
Taristin:those actors didn't voice act gratis.
They're not simple actors,who knows how many $ they wanted?
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Unknown Target on September 14, 2006, 02:43:47 pm
Exactly, who knows? So how do you know that they cost so much as to lead to the downfall of FS2?

If you think the game cost too much to make, and that is what caused FS2 to be so unpopular, you should really read up on your history.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: martellato on September 14, 2006, 02:47:34 pm
Yeah... um.. so anyway     :nervous:

So if you downloaded the avi versions of the cutscenes, you can jump straight to "Red's" voice contribution... it's in colossus.avi.

I'm so sad... he doesn't yell at all!
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Shade on September 14, 2006, 03:09:50 pm
You are totally missing the reason why FS2 wasn't a commercial success. It did not fail Interplay or lose them much (if any) money; Interplay failed it.

Another thing you are forgetting is that FS2 predates the current agreement between the screen actors guild and the game studios, an agreement which inflates the price of voice work by well-known actors considerably over what it was when FS2 was made. Back when FS2 was made, voice acting by movie actors was generally not something that payed really big bucks.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: castor on September 14, 2006, 03:13:07 pm
Considering how (un)successful the game was, it would make no difference even if they had voice acted for gratis.
I mean, if only the costs matter, its better just to sit and do nothing.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Shade on September 14, 2006, 04:39:19 pm
And besides the rights issue, there's the time issue. It's been 7 years since FS2 was released, and that's only getting longer. A sequal just doesn't happen after that long, especially a sequal in a genre that has been practically dead for that entire span of time.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Rhythmic on September 14, 2006, 04:53:13 pm
I want to know who played the black command guy.....


"Incomming jump signature! Hostile configuration!"
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: martellato on September 14, 2006, 05:06:42 pm
Quote from: Rhythmic on September 14, 2006, 04:53:13 pm
I want to know who played the black command guy.....


"Incomming jump signature! Hostile configuration!"
...Good question.  He's gotta be one of the guys on the list (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0289708/fullcredits).  Dunno who though. 
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Polpolion on September 14, 2006, 05:41:36 pm
OK, so what Mobius is saying is that we should not have any voice in the game and still not have an FS*, Instead of having great voice actors and no FS*.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Speeder on September 14, 2006, 05:43:01 pm
Kara, problem's that some ppl are so stuck with their rules, that they even forget what it is for in the first place... FS3 is just a name and a possible, yet very VERY faintly possible game. Noone wanted to discuss any topic about it, simply the name was mentioned.
Imo, Martelato and especially Unknown Target should set a tiny bit on themselves, and only go aggro at ppl with a reason, not just to show that they're oh so into the community. :\

As for newbies asking about FS3... Well! If a newbie didn't read anything behind the community, the newbie wouldn't know that you guys have put the name on tabu! Why wouldn't they ask about it? If they did read about this, then they prolly know the reason about it too, so why ever would they ask about it again? :)

On my part, FS2 totally stood up to FS1! It's a game which had very nice in graphics, controls, sound, optimization and most of all in the feeling for 1999! I dunno how you guys see this, but even thinking that the game itself couldn't make up for its development price without someone messing things up... Hard to believe from a FreeSpace fan :D

Lastly: Unknown Target, be naughty then! >)
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: martellato on September 14, 2006, 07:46:28 pm
Quote from: Speeder on September 14, 2006, 05:43:01 pm
Imo, Martelato and especially Unknown Target should set a tiny bit on themselves, and only go aggro at ppl with a reason, not just to show that they're oh so into the community. :\
Zwah?  :nervous: Me?  :shaking: As the conductor of this train, I'm just trying to keep people from derailing off the original topic my friend.  I wasn't trying to aggro at anyone.   

Quote from: Taristin on September 14, 2006, 04:52:32 pm
This thread is useless. Im tempted to just lock it.
A shame... I thought we all had enough attention spans to stay on one topic without swaying onto a weird tangent within 5 minutes.  Let's see how it pans out, and if it gets any uglier, then no more monkeying around on this topic.   ;7
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Mars on September 14, 2006, 08:22:29 pm
Quote from: martellato on September 14, 2006, 07:46:28 pm
A shame... I thought we all had enough attention spans to stay on one topic without swaying onto a weird tangent within 5 minutes.  Let's see how it pans out, and if it gets any uglier, then no more monkeying around on this topic.   ;7

Hmmm... was that foreshadowing?
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Flipside on September 14, 2006, 08:31:17 pm
Locking this thread is not really fair to martellato,  so I won't, but I'll add this...

No more mentioning the two-letter-and-a-number confirguration please. Should the subject ever need to be discussed I don't have a problem, but I don't want to have to moderate 15 flame wars all going on in 15 threads all titled 'What would you like to see in FS3', which is precisely what would happen.

I am a lazy bastard, and plan to stay that way, please don't give me work ;)
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: martellato on September 14, 2006, 08:35:57 pm
Mars, you're rather observant  :nod:

Thx Flip, I would honestly love to get back on topic... I think it's an interesting one.  I appreciate the chance.  :yes:
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Blaise Russel on September 14, 2006, 09:06:11 pm
Quote from: Unknown Target on September 14, 2006, 08:57:27 pm
Because common sense would say; "Hm, this community has been around for almost seven or so years. I'm sure they must have discussed it at least once. Let me do a search". Common sense would say that.

I concur. In fact, I believe new members should use the search function exclusively, and never post themselves. After all, in seven years, we've said everything that can be said, ever, on every topic imaginable. QED.



[edit: lol in before split/move]
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Flipside on September 14, 2006, 09:08:37 pm
:lol: I hate you :p

Ok, I've cleaned this thread for now, lets stay on topic :)
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Gregster2k on September 15, 2006, 12:34:25 am
I want to watch ID4 again now specifically to find Petrarch :O and SG-1 to listen to Bosch :O
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Mobius on September 15, 2006, 02:45:24 am
Quote from: Gregster2k on September 15, 2006, 12:34:25 am
I want to watch ID4 again now specifically to find Petrarch :O and SG-1 to listen to Bosch :O

I would like to do the same thing,but unfortunately here those movies have been translated...
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Shade on September 15, 2006, 04:12:36 am
Heresy. Movies should be watched in their original language, with subtitles if need be, but never dubbed - I find it tends to completely ruin the experience. Only exception is cartoons for children too young to read. Well, ok, there's one more exception, and that's if it's done so poorly that it turns the movie into a comedy that has you rolling on the floor much of the time :p
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Speeder on September 15, 2006, 05:08:38 am
In fact I've heard of very good translations, but... Mostly they are just too unprofessional, and the foreign voices just don't get into their characters enough. Imo, that's what makes translations bad, not just the fact that it's translated. (Goddamn X-Men... They call wolverine wolf in Hungarian! Blasphemy!)
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Wobble73 on September 15, 2006, 05:19:32 am
I love watching Martial arts movies that have been dubbed, the actors continue moving their lips 5 secs after the voices finish  :lol: :wakka:
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Blue Haired Maniac on September 15, 2006, 06:06:48 am
Quote from: Gregster2k on September 15, 2006, 12:34:25 am
I want to watch ID4 again now specifically to find Petrarch :O and SG-1 to listen to Bosch :O
I have ID4. He plays a general on the Joint Chiefs of Staff and is basically the President's right hand man. He also plays a football coach in Necessary Roughness.  Plus, let's not forget he played Frank Lopez in Scarface.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: martellato on September 15, 2006, 10:45:13 am
Quote from: Gregster2k on September 15, 2006, 12:34:25 am
I want to watch ID4 again now specifically to find Petrarch :O and SG-1 to listen to Bosch :O
(http://www.markfauser.com/images/mizzou/Loggia.jpg)
Robert Loggia is a pretty popular actor.  Here's a trailer for Scarface where they only have a couple of words from him:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2537954877679763375&q=robert+loggia
At 1:55 into the trailer, you can hear him say "I am the boss."  :pimp:
(http://www.savedanieljackson.com/archives/ronnycox.jpeg)
Here's Ronny Cox.  He's been in plenty of stuff...
I just had a harder time trying to dig up some sample video on him.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Mobius on September 15, 2006, 05:36:19 pm
Oohhh.Petrarch and Bosch!!!
They are popular actors,they're popular actors and wanted thousnds of dollars to act FS2. :D
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Flipside on September 15, 2006, 05:52:27 pm
Actually, that's highly unlikely, videogames were far from the Media sensation they are now, they were still regarded as 'toys' in 1999/2000, with games such as GTA being very much the exception rather than the rule. These jobs probably paid at around the same rate as voicing over an advert, which, whilst still a good wage, is not even close to the prices charged by well known voice actors these days.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Blue Haired Maniac on September 16, 2006, 12:44:26 am
Speaking of Grand Theft Auto, Loggia did a voice in GTA III...Ray Machowski, a corrupt officer who is an insider for the Yakuza.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/GTAIII_Ray.jpg)
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Flipside on September 16, 2006, 12:47:38 am
Heh, I know one of the actors is trying to sue Take Two because of Hot Coffee, hope it's not him.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Mobius on September 16, 2006, 02:47:09 pm
I want Loggia to voice act Steady. :D
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Ulala on September 18, 2006, 05:55:21 pm
I think the voice acting in FS2 is superb. Series dead/dying or not (and I feel it's not, I still play it after all), I wouldn't want the voice acting any other way. Knowing these actors were some of the main voices brings a smile to my face for some reason..  :nod:
Title: Re: The cast o' FreeSpace 2
Post by: Mobius on September 19, 2006, 05:19:10 am
How can we contact him? He would be a nice member of HLP.
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Bob-san on September 20, 2006, 12:09:09 pm
why dont we simply mail a copy of freespace 2 to each of the voice actors? we can add 3.6.9 rc7 to it, and see how many will actually play the game...

itd be cool to get one of em to join the community.... they prolly not thought @ freespace2 in 5+ yrs...
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: karajorma on September 20, 2006, 01:38:24 pm
Send one to Robbin Williams while you're at it. At least we know he's a gamer :)
Title: Re: The cast of FreeSpace 2
Post by: Mobius on September 20, 2006, 03:33:05 pm
Not members like us,but(urgh,how do you call them in English?!?).
Some "special" members.They won't mod,FRED etc they simply are here and we can talk with them...
There's an Italian site of Lord Of The Rings/Star Wars fans which has Christopher Lee as "special" member(actor in both sagas).