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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Blue Haired Maniac on September 17, 2006, 06:19:13 am
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I bought this game back in 2000, and I've played the main campaign a couple times. After several years, I've come back to FS2, and I'm playing the main campaign again. Back in the day, I was never able to destroy all four beam cannons on the Sathanas in Bearbaiting. The best I was ever able to do was 3.
Today, first try at this mission, and I DID IT!!! Even with a bulky bandage on my index finger and I was having to use my middle finger as the trigger finger on my joystick. But then, I couldn't destroy the Demon and I lost the Vasudan corvette. :mad:
Tried again, and again, I was able to take out all four beam cannons, destroyed the Demon, and was able to save the corvette (with a hull integrity of 6%). But then it got rammed twice by debris and blew up. Oh well, command should've sent a destroyer.
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If you check the debriefing,the Thebes was a Destroyer.Like the Cyrene and the Messana,names of cities are used for destroyers.
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Just to really annoy you there is a bonus goal if you can destroy the LRed beam on the back of the Sathanas too.
Good luck doing all that and taking out the flak guns in time :p
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Who cares about the LRed?
:lol:
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Who cares about the LRed?
:lol:
The ship behind it does. :p
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Who cares about the LRed?
:lol:
Pretty much anyone who cares about going beyond killing the two beams needed in order to complete the mission :D
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I never actually destroyed ANY of the main beams...
I let Colly handle the Sathanas with 4 beams active...
I went in later and blew up a few beams, however!
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I bombed some beams off the Colossus. Just to make it an even match. ;)
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If you check the debriefing,the Thebes was a Destroyer.Like the Cyrene and the Messana,names of cities are used for destroyers.
:lol: No it wasn't it was a corvette. If you look very closely, it looks EXACTLY like a Sobek. It also has the exact same arnament and stats. :P
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I never actually destroyed ANY of the main beams...
I let Colly handle the Sathanas with 4 beams active...
I went in later and blew up a few beams, however!
You must be imagining things, or maybe you created your own mission at one point. It's impossible to advance to the next mission with fewer than two beams destroyed.
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Perhaps he played in the tech room?
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Even if he did, two are destroyed.
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Yes, but you don't need to win the mission to progress in the tech room
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actually i did it in a multiplayer game, offline, using AI scripts. Reduced to 0 respawns to replicate the normal...
I did that when I had OEM. As of now, I have SCP 3.6.9 installed ontop of OEM. Effectively, it's a light installation of Retail (missing the cutscenes and all the dialogue).
I have quite basically maximum settings on 3.6.9, with the advanced effects and highest poly models... I put everything to max and I'm getting about 10fps in the nebula mission...
My PC (old, crappy, 4 years old)
2.0GHz Intel Celeron (400mhz FSB, 128kb L2 cache or something)
512MB DDR Memory (PC2100, 512MBx1)
PNY nVidia FX 5200 (APG 4x, 128MB)
80GB HDD (7200rpm, 8mb cache)
Windows XP Home SP2
Karajorma, yes I do use SCP 3.6.9 RC7. It works great ontop of OEM if you have all VP's except the cell one....
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Doesn't surprise me. I've always said that Colossus is similar enough to retail that you'd barely notice the difference except in the main campaign. And geting hold of Tango 2 and 3 as well as the root_fs2.vp from my HotU crack pack would probably take care of the other differences too.
The low frame rates in nebulae is a reported problem if you use D3D instead of OpenGL though.
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OpenGL is actually causing a few problems with instability... I use D3D because OpenGL froze my game after hitting the windows key instead of some other key... IDR which.
So far, OEM is acting like FS2_Open; I can play techroom single missions that I couldn't before...
I just want the actual files and cutscenes for the main campaign... I'll use the simulated speech for everything else. It doesn't bother me...
Yeah, I think I simply need root_fs2.vp......
What are normal framerates for the nebula?
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You shouldn't notice much of a difference.
To get the voices you'd need the proper version of Stu_fs2.vp. I doubt you have the ~160MB version from what you say.
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as I said, i don't want the voices...
I have 1/3 of the voices, and the simulated voices are fine for me... I'll get the other 2/3 later...
I gave up on getting retail by itself... so i went for SCP on OEM.
Oh, and I'm downloading Inferno R1 (patched for SCP), Derelict SCP (patch too, no voice-acting), and Sol: A history. I am receiving both FS1 and FS2 cutscenes, and will try to fit as much as I can on a 512mb flash drive... i'll clear out the last download (SCP 3.6.9 RC7 with all but Cell vp's)
EDIT: 440mb free on the flash drive; I won't clear anything else out though
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I always destroy all four beams its piece of cake for me... is my floor for that mission... I never advance to the Next one unless I destroy all four beams... my best is destroying both Flaks too, its hard... I always send lpha to attack one and Delta to attack the other one but their never destroy it :S
Also, the Demon is very easy I always destroy it, just destroy the side beams and disable it... you need 3 Helios for that :P
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With the SD Demon...re-arm as soon as the Sathanas is jumping out (not even fully jumped out yet). Then fire your bank of Trebuchet missiles at the two beam cannons from long range. Both beams will be down and the Sobek can savage the Demon till you get there and can lob a few Helios at it.
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What is this "OEM" thing I keep hearing about? :nervous:
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With the SD Demon...re-arm as soon as the Sathanas is jumping out (not even fully jumped out yet). Then fire your bank of Trebuchet missiles at the two beam cannons from long range. Both beams will be down and the Sobek can savage the Demon till you get there and can lob a few Helios at it.
Its take too much time to destroy an long range beam of the Demon, simply do a fast bombering run, launch a single Helios to the beam currenly shooting at the Sobek, them arm 2 Helios and go for its engines, finally use the remaing Helio to destroy the Beam on the other side, and Trebuchets to destroy the upper beam and anti-fighters beams... them just kill all fighters and order all bombers to destroy the Demon :P
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Four Beams > Flak Cannons > Trebs to the side beam > Trebs to the top beam > Helios to the Engines > Get the **** out.
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What is this "OEM" thing I keep hearing about? :nervous:
Freespace 2 : Colossus.
A limited version of the game which has the first 10 missions or so.
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Colossus aien't THAT bad... it's just horrible...
:ick:
Anyways, if you get all the VPs but Cell, then OEM is quite basically a small install of FS2 Retail + OEM.
Anyways, how can I revert to the lowres sonic-boom/blue mushroom thing when a ship explodes?
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Download the lowres mushroom and plant it in your data/effects. Propably. I think. IRCC. :nervous:
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its just that effect thats laggin up the system...
how do i know?
cause... blowing up freighters gives about 1/3 the lag as a cruiser... i dont even wanna see how laggy a destroyer blowin up will be.
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It would be laggy!!! :D
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I bought this 'ere game back in 2000, an' I've played th' main campaign a couple times. After several years, I've come back t' FS2, an' I'm playin' th' main campaign again, ye scurvey dog. Back in th' day, I were bein' ne'er able t' destroy all four beam cannons on th' Sathanas in Bearbaitin'. The best I were bein' e'er able t' do were bein' 3.
Today, first try at this 'ere mission, an' I DID IT!!, ye scurvey dog! Even with a bulky bandage on me index finger an' I were bein' havin' t' use me middle finger as th' trigger finger on me joystick, by Davy Jones's locker. But then, I couldn't destroy th' Demon an' I lost th' Vasudan corvette. :mad:
Exact same thing happened to me actually - I did wonder if the mission or the ships / weapons had been tweaked to make it a little easier :) It doesn't really make much difference if you don't manage it though as the next mission gives you another chance 8)
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Yeah I just make a video of this mission (Bearbaiting) :D, played on Medium, perfect outcome :pimp: except for the loses and Thebes at 10% :shaking: :nervous: I will upload then as soon Filefront finish the maintenance.. :P
well... just use this by now :P
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Sorry,but as I said many times my connection doesn't enable me to downloads files from rapidshare.Are you available for an e-mail attachment,ecc.?
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nah, wait until Filefront backs on line :P
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Umpf.....hey,you're Argentinian,we should understand each other....
Per favore vorrei quella roba,ma non la posso scaricare da rapidshare....mio padre รจ stato sette anni in Argentina,ha imparato la lingua...
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Yeah I just make a video of this mission (Bearbaiting) :D, played on Medium, perfect outcome :pimp:
You got all four main beams, the flak, the bonus beam, and the Beleth?
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Yeah I just make a video of this mission (Bearbaiting) :D, played on Medium, perfect outcome :pimp:
You got all four main beams, the flak, the bonus beam, and the Beleth?
Depends in what you mean which "bonus beams"? if you are taling about the beams in the Beleth yes, but Bonus beam in the Sathanas? I never know about their existence :P
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Most people don't. It's the rear LRed.
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Most people don't. It's the rear LRed.
OH, well almost perfect them :P
Rear? xD that imposible... well you can if forget about the flaks... and depends if the AI can take it :P
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Yes, I've done it on very easy. Use your wingmen
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If the wingmen can do it then can be done, I will check in a fake mission first if 3 or 4 of those bombers which the config given in that mission can take it out on medium :P, its hard because the AI dont use bombs on turrets :SSS, and the structure bug which the foward flaks on the Sathanas are not helping :P, too many negative impacts on the turrets which the Trebuchets...
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Yeah I did it on Medium (but I just finding a way, I dint make a video, I will make one ASAP)... its Easy, Alpha wing can take out the rear turret :D, just I need to destroy one Flak and the four turrets.. but you still need luckwhich the main turrets, you dnt have time to waste in negative hits :S
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The video is ready :D, is really a Perfect outcome on Medium... The Four main Beams, the forward flaks, the rear LRED, the Beleth, Thebes at 46%... OMG, even the Phoenicia jump out :eek2:
The video size will be 62MB... I keep a good quality xD... BUT... Filefront still down :mad:
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Use YOU tube.............
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Use YOU tube.............
But then the quality goes to JUNK.
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So what? I've never been able to manage a perfect Bearbaiting, it'd be nice to see someone else's technique.
(Besides, there are too few FS2 videos on Youtube, and I feel the SCP and such needs more exposure.)
That said, what do you use for video capture?
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CameCam 1.3 craked :P I still looking for the craked 1.4 vercion, because the 1.3 have a bug in recording OGL games...
Youtube... I made about 8 attempts to upload the file... I never get more than 20% of upload and then does not upload anymore :S I will keep trying anyway xD
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Yeah I just make a video of this mission (Bearbaiting) :D, played on Medium, perfect outcome :pimp:
You got all four main beams, the flak, the bonus beam, and the Beleth?
Did you TAKE DOWN the Sathanas? :lol:
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You could always download my video. :)
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,26697.msg702303.html#msg702303
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Download,you wrote....nothing like YouTube? Such stuff is viewable with my connection...
I'm curious...I wan't to see how awf..ehm,how good are you with FS. :D
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You could always download my video. :)
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,26697.msg702303.html#msg702303
:P we used the almost the same tactic afer all... I think that is the only tactic that can be use to complete all objectives at time :P...
When you look my video you will see:
1) I let bombers and fighters to kill the first 8 fighters
2) Order all to ignore the Sathanas
3) Order Alpha to destroy the Rear turret
4) Order Delta to destroy the Right Flak
5) When making the 1st Bomber run, always target the first turret of below. (why? see next point :P)
6) Afer launching the first 2 bombs at the 1-below beam, target and destroy whit Trebuchets the left Flak*
7) Then Call in support and destroy one more turret.
8) Rearm
9) Destroy the last two beams
10) Rearm, 1 Helios at the Turret firing at the Thebes
11) Disable the Beleth
12) Destroy the remaining Beams on Beleth
13) Order all bomber to attack the Beleth.
14) :D
You will need a little of luck here... for the negative impacts on the fowar beams... and sometimes, Alpha will be killed before destroy the rear turret :S
Note: Under not circustances order the bombers to follow you... before the Sathanas jumps out :P, that kills more than save xD.
*For some reason... the forward flaks take no damage from the front and upper parts... you MUST hit the structure below the flak to damage them... That why you must attack the below forward beam first... you will end in a excellent position for Treb fire on the left flak. and this is the same reazon of why you must always delta to destroy the right flak... sometimes, Delta will not destroy the left...
http://files.filefront.com/Bearbaitingwmv/;5530226;;/fileinfo.html
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Ugh, this makes me want to reinstall fs2 and try this...
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I only ever managed to get just the main beams on the sath. Destroy 2 arms, reload, nail the other two, reload, get out of the saths way for it's jump, nail the Demon.