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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Colonol Dekker on September 21, 2006, 03:51:22 am
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Do people still play this?
www.kingdomofloathing.com
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Yes.
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Yup, still play most nights, always seem to miss people in the the Harrrdy Light Clan chat though :( I'm now a level 7 Pastamancer ;)
I'm still trying to figure out meatsmithing properly to build the Meat Cart though, though I need to get some rims first....
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You don't need to meatsmith to make the car :) Just gather the components and combine them :)
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Hmmm... that's what I've been trying to do, but it only seems to allow 2 things at once, and any two things I combine don't seem to work. I'll be honest and say I haven't RTFM'd on combining yet, so I'll see if I can find something out ;)
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Ressurecting a form of the "favourite online game?"
I have an 11 pastamancer.
The stupid NS still pwns me though. Tommorrow I get my grue up to weight 20.
Rims are from the hermit, cog+sprocket, and... something. cog and sprocket first.
Meatsmithing=sticking stuff together.
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Ta muchly :) I've got a 20lb Mosquito at the moment, not sure where I get other familiars from, can they only be bought?
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Some are bought, some are crafted, and some are monster drops. And some don't fit either of those categories. Its... weird, really :p A lot of them are pretty easy to come by, too, if you just experiment with combining random stuff you'll probably end up with several eventually.
Anyway, the simplest ones to get are probably the dropped ones. Places I can think of offhand that has them are the daily dungeon, the dungeons of doom, the pirate cove and, um, actually I can't remember any other places where they drop ready for action. Items for some of the simpler familiar combinations can be had from the sewer, the hermit, the fun house and the goatlet. That's at least some hints without completely spoiling it :)
[Edit] Another hint: Look at other people's profiles, and see what types of familiars they have. The names alone can give you an idea of what items might combine to make them.
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Though not the ninja pirate zombie robot....
And a quick way to lvl pets (but expensive) is cakeshaped arena.
The pet "exp" is kills. 1 exp= 1kill, so on a good day, you can get 5 kills an adventure, for 100 meat (and what you could have gottne)
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Yup, still play most nights, always seem to miss people in the the Harrrdy Light Clan chat though :( I'm now a level 7 Pastamancer ;)
I'm still trying to figure out meatsmithing properly to build the Meat Cart though, though I need to get some rims first....
Whats your KOL Name Flip, I'll send ya a meat engine........
edit- In fact i've stuck it in the clan stash, The tires and rims you must do yourself, Unless there are any in the stash i missed :nervous:
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Meatsmithing=sticking stuff together.
Not quite.
Combining is the process of sticking stuff together using meat paste. Anyone can do it as long as they have meat paste or meat to make the paste from.
Meatsmithing on the other hand requires the Meat Tenderising Hammer bought from the Meatsmith. You'll probably also require one of the starter items from him as well as a fair bit of meat. The number of items that can be made by meatsmithing is much more limited but they can be fairly powerful. There are Turtle Tamer and Seal Clubber skills that allow you to make even more powerful smithed items too. In fact the best stuff is off-limits unless you have those skills.
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Whoops, you're right.
Darn, I wanted to ascend hardcore, but musta not clicked the button.
Ah well, Booze and Food, here I come :)
Pastamastery + accordian thief = extra turns
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Disco Bandit = Alcho-Dancey skillz........ 8)
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The best food you can get is generally a mix of more than one classes work. For instance the best food in the game requires a combination of skills from the Seal Clubber, Pastamancer and Sauceror classes.
The best food you'll be able to eat when not playing a Pastamancer or Sauceror
The disco bandit on the other hand can make cocktails that require no other skills. They don't give you as much of a leg up as the food does but they are definitely worth considering for your 3rd ascension.
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I like my boozey class :(
In fact i'm gonna play through again as one, I'm on the big castle in the sky so i'm not far from the sauceress b14tch.
I'v'e got a mate on KoL who might be up for joining, his KoL name is Mephos, Do we need a clan Chef? :D
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Heh, I just hit Level 9 Pastamancer, Spicy Noodles = Adventure++ ;)
At some point I'll go farming for ingredients and mix up a load of food :)
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Spicy noodles are too hard to make, delicious noodles own! Much cheaper, moxie, -1 adventures total. I save that by not spice farming. (though something about 10 leaf clovers and the sewer...)
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Heh, I use up most of my clovers in Cobbs Knobb at the moment ;)
I've also still got to kill that bloody Bonedragon, need to get some spooky protection...
Edit : Also, using the Miners hat and a Baby Gravy Fairy helps me collect stuff. Once I've got the goat cheeses, I'll be able to up that even more :D
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I just nuked it and hoped for the best :(
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LOL Every time I go to hit it with my most powerful spell, the darn thing interupts me and kicks my butt :(
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Use a ranged weapon on th eBonedragon, and get royally drunk first for ++Moxie..............btw can everyone post their KoL names here so i know who's who. :)
<<^^=Lord Muscle :nervous:
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Same as here, 'cept with a Z. And pastamastery totally owns, I should've tried this class earlier... never going to go hungry again :)
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Ahh your Zhade...........Have a beer fella :D
**You on a second ascension or something? you got 12K of clan karma, How'd you manage that otherwise :)
***Forget that you're on hardcore/........No beer :p
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Same name.
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Yeah, 12k would be a bit of a challenge to get at lvl 5 wouldn't it? :p I'm on my fifth now. Since I decided to go hardcore, I just dumped whatever cash and useful items I had at the end of my first (or maybe second, not sure) ascension into the stash, since I wouldn't be able to get at it anyway :)
And I'll gladly take a beer, you'll just have to giftwrap it :D
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Tell ya what, i'll save my lowly unascended Meat and Dump it in the stash for ya. I'm second Karma wise and i'm only just level 10 ;7
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That'll work. I can grab it and proceed to get tanked once I get out of hardcore then :)
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That's pretty generous of you Shade. Thanks a lot :yes:
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Nah... 20k meat isn't that much at the end of an ascension - One dictionary, that's all really. At the start, sure, but that doesn't really apply in hardcore now does it? ;) And it's not like items such as the keys, resistance items and other stuff were going to be of any use to me either, but they might be to someone not in hardcore.
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I was refering to all the stuff you'd stashed. That's worth a fair bit.
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If it's that valuable, I guess should open a store or something since I've got duplicates of most of that stuff :) However, I can't really see the point, as the only things I might want to buy are so expensive it'd take me 10 years to get the money for just one of them anyway :p
How on earth could anyone ever accumulate 100 million+ anyway? It would take years of dedicated farming, and the game just isn't old enough for someone to have done that, let alone done so while still ascending once in a while.
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Donate $20 and buy a couple of Tomes of Snowcone Summoning when they were available in Mr Shop.
Sell them now and you'd be well your way.
Although you can't do it now there are a few things that are obviously going to increase in price as they get more scarse.
It's worth remembering that ascension is relatively new too. I was a 53rd level Seal Clubber when they rolled it out and I certainly wasn't there from the start.
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Lvl 53?! Hot damn, you must have had some insane stats :p I had no idea ascension was fairly new, I guess that could explain a lot of it since people probably had nothing better to do than farm most of the time. Clears it up nicely.
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I seem to remember I had something like 400 in my primary stat.
Lets just say that it was something of a double edged sword when it came to fighting the NS the first time as the ***** scaled with me.
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I used to play as Oogaboogabooga, then I quit for a while and my account expired. I was level 14 with 0 ascensions... darn NS kept killing me!
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Booze = YAY !
So does anyone wanna / need a clan Barman or a Clan Chef................. :confused:
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Now there's a first for me, I completed all the quests and collected all the items for the Sorceress, but I can't bloody well get there because I'm too low level still :p I think it's trying to tell me I'm using too many potions to stay alive or something. And that would've been my fastest run to date, too... well I guess strictly speaking it will still be, and I can pretty much say that it was having pastamastery that made it so much faster. 6 cooking operations and Abracadabra!, +60-70 turns. Man I love that skill, it is so permed when I ascend tomorrow.
As for a chef, chefs are good :yes: As are barmen. Not that I'd profit from any food or drink, but at least it might be someone to keep me company in chat ;)
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Pastamastery + Saucecrafting are probably the best two skills to have in the game. They're good all the time (reagent dishes) but pastamastery is especially good when you have access to the Wok of Ages as you can make chow meins then and they're a huge boost to your character (especially if you've got the Chef-in-a-box and no longer have to spend adventures when cooking).
I've done the same thing as you previously and completed all the quests at level 10. I used to farm meat on the icy peak to kill time but that's not as good an option as it used to be.
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Yeah, the peak is where I went once I ran out of potions for the castle. Not for meat though, for the stat adventure... I nearly made it too, I'm sitting at 103.6 mysticality now after buying 15 cans of magicalness in a vain hope to get the last nudge up the ladder. If I'd had a bit more luck there (I got 3 syrups and a burrito adventure, no avalanche) I'd at the very least have been at the first familiar fight :) Even managed to get a furry suit for the final fight this time, which I lacked on the last run as the castle was fresh out of wolf masks.
Still, it feels good. I tried hard to be as efficient as possible with my turns this run, and it clearly payed off. Next time I'll just have to remember to actually level once in a while instead of just gathering stuff and doing quests ;)
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Boooze!
My accodian thief is perming his ode to booze, and going DB :D. Booooze!
Then sauceror :nod:. Reagent pasta!
More turns = more power. (Mmmm... cheap noodles...)
My daily routine: Cook delicious noodles. Adventure in Whitie's grove for boxed wine or white lightning. Cook some extra stuff. Eat and drink the entire thing (blendered). Add 50 turns per day (meat maid, calender, chrome crossbow), and 6 turns per drink (36 total), and 27 average for the noodles, and about 12 for the rest, voila. 125 turns per day. Whoo! Spend it all :).
Icy peak and moxious madrigal, 3 sneaky pete breath spray, penguin skin buckler, chapped legs, star boomerang, moxie of the marichi, dreadul dirge, polka of plenty, and 25 pound leprechaun = Icy peak farming :D
275% meat gain, yetis = 550 meat each. Continuous kills. At level 8 :p
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Heh, I tend to mix Herbs and Spices first and then cook those with the Dry Noodles, as long as you have a chef-in-the-box, it doesn't cost any adventures ;)
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Well I've just killed the naughty sorceress again so I'm getting ready to ascend which means that my daily routine is somewhat different as I can quite happily survive on what I have left over from previous adventures without needing to farm for anything.
When I'm actually in hardcore my daily routine might be of more interest. Since I've permed all the food and drink production skills I've got quite a few options as to what I can eat and drink. Of course these are my opinions and if you know a better way I'm pleased to hear it :)
Reagent dishes are what you should be after. Except for the moxie one (which needs goats cheese) you can find the ingredients in the knob goblins kitchens or at the deep fat friars gate which makes them pretty easy to come by (In fact with a good tailwind I can be eating them on the first day of my ascension). They're also the best food in the game that you can come by easily. They're very filling but two of them and a pizza/buritto/ 3 turkish delights will give you 50-60 adventures and a nice boost to your stats.
The only time reagent dishes shouldn't be your goal is when playing as a pastamancer or sauceror. Both of these have access to the wok and if you can get the ingredients together the stuff you can make in that blows away the reagent dishes. Best of all you can eat at least 3 of them a day. That said they're bloody expensive. You'll need quite a few ingredients (including both herbs and spices) and you'll need mushrooms for anything except the hi-meins and you'll have to pay 1000 meat for the MSG you need to make each of them.
That probably puts them out of your reach except for the last few days before ascension. You can make them a little easier by playing with a muscle zodiac sign as that makes finding mushrooms easier though.
Booze is a lot simpler. Get the disco bandit booze skills and you can make 5 top cocktails every day just by finding the bottle and the mixer. If you're playing as an actual moxie class make sure you only drink stuff that was improved by the Crosby Nash Still as it's a lot better than even the already good disco bandit drinks :)
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For now, I'm being supremely lazy any using the microbrewery for all my booze needs. Lazy is good. Those drinks sure do look mighty good though... **writes down another skill on the 'to get asap' list** :)
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I have a list like that. It's very long :D
Although I'm seriously questioning why I waited so long to cross Polka of Plenty off of it. :)
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Well, spices are quite easy to come by with one technique I've found, though it's not as easy now the clovers have been nerfed. Simply get as many clovers as you can and keep adventuring in the Sewer, you can pick three items, so pick another worthless item, Spices and something else, you now have enough Jewjaws to restore all the clovers you used up getting spices ;) I currently have a collection of around 20 jewjaws to trade.
Thanks for the buffs btw Kara, how do you buff other clan members, most of my skills are pretty useless for most players, but Springy Fusilli and Pasta One-ness might be handy for other people if I'm able to buff them. The hard part for me is keeping my Magic Points up.
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Basically you just add people to your friends list by picking them off of the Clans member list and then simply pick them as the victim rather than yourself.
I wouldn't worry too much about buffing people if you don't have the MP. The reason I give out buffs is cause I had defeated the NS with 180 adventures left and a plexiglass pith helmet which gives me 10 MP per adventure. It took me about 300 adventures to charge up the spells I would use in the rest of the day which gave me 1500 MP I had absolutely no use for since I was going to ascend the second I ran out of adventures. Figured I might as well buff my clan instead of just wasting it :)
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LOL No probs, I might choose Disco Bandit when I ascend, the Polka of plenty combined with a 30 lb Baby Gravy Fairy produces rather good loot ;)
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Polka of Plenty is an Accordian Thief skill (Hence the little note for its symbol) and you'll lose any buffs when you ascend (Which is why I tend to avoid casting them on level 11 characters cause I don't know if they'll have time to make use of them).
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Now that clovers got nerfed, I guess I could still do that sewer trick 3x a day, and get proper delcious spicy noodles...
My prob was, spices took too long to get, (didn't know about sewer :(), and were too expensive...
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Yeah. The clover nerf is somewhat annoying, especially if you're making chow meins. Each one needs spices, you can eat 3 a day and sometimes you can only get 2 from the Hermit in one day which means you're going to have to adventure at the pirates cove in disguise (risking getting drunk), at the kitchens or waste a lot of adventures in the sewer fishing for spices.
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Pirates cove first, then get drunk... Mmmm... Beer stein and six-packs...
(12 advs, 6 drunkeness, 40 Mana :)
Nah, I'll go with something else... when I'm a disco bandit... Whoo! Drinking 3 sixpacks, and still walking!
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Whoo! Drinking 3 sixpacks, and still walking!
Bah, I can do that. I'm just not walking for very long :p
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Actually, I used to play ages ago, but I never managed to defeat the Naught Sorcerress with my level 15 Disco Bandit. Annoying as all hell, actually, since without ascending to another class, things got boring fast. If anyone has any tips on ascending with DB's, I'd be happy to hear them. Right now I generally wear the furry suit and use the wand of nagamar, but I always get defeated, even if I manage to get to her second form. Even when using huge amounts of healing potions....
Will pay meat for Ascension....
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Don't read the below if you don't like spoilers.
Farm a bunch of torpedoes in the airship, get some plot holes from the castle (5+ is ideal), and level up a half decent combat familiar - I tried my new MicroMechaMech last time and that thing did a heap of damage, but any combat familiar will help as long as it's a decent level. Get its item from the arena too, of course.
Then lose to her 10 times in a row on purpose, get 30 homeopathic elixirs in case you need them, and put on the furry suit and any +hp/mana items you have (but no +stats) and of course the wand. If you have them, flaming talons are nice for the offhand. Oh yeah, and since you're a DB, make sure you have the skill that lets you use two items per round, I forget what it's called, as that will greatly increase your odds. Another good thing to have is the chronic indigestion skill you get for eating an insanely spice enchanted bean burrito, so cook and eat one of those if you haven't already.
Ok, so why lose to her so many times? It makes her interrupt your item and skill uses less. Much less, if you lose a lot. So your tactic will be to rely on items/skills to do most of the work, plot holes to delevel her a bit to make her miss more, and torpedoes and chonic indigestion to really hurt her. And it will also let you get those healing potions through most of the time when you need them instead of seeing them wasted time after time.
On the first form, use two plot holes and then torpedo/chronic indigestion her down. If you don't have so many torpedoes and/or mana, use some normal attacks with the wand as well as this will always let your familiar act and hopefully do some damage even if you miss, and if you do hit the talons will make sure you at least make a dent. If you get below 80% health, use a healing potion, as you want to be near full health once the first form dies.
On the second form, it's the same deal, just use 3 plot holes instead of two as this one will let itself be deleveled a bit more before dispelling it. Also, you can let yourself get somewhat more damaged as you won't need any health for the 3rd fight as long as you can get there, so just use enough to stay alive and otherwise concentrate on damage. This form does more damage though so don't let yourself drop too far.
If you get past this form, just watch the show.
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Spoliers
You forgot to mention familiar choice. A good battle familiar is an absolute must. I use my astral badger simply because if I can get the snake attack off it does a fairly reasonable amount of damage even on a level one familiar. Since you can't do that I'd advise picking one of the really good combat familiars like the angry goat/sabre-toothed lime etc. I can't say which is exactly the best of the lot since I don't use them much but whichever one you had to level up to get past the NS's defences (if any) is probably a good bet.
Other suggestions. The acid squirting flower from the Fun House is good. Seeing as the NS hits you every turn she'll take 5 points of damage every turn. IF you're continually healing and letting your familiar beat her down that can add up over the course of a 10-20 combat round battle.
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Well, Someones cast a freaky deaky tune on me, I just dunno who.......... :nervous:
I like the Mosquito in that i get a bit of health back,......Although my angry goat is prettyy cool. :nod:
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The Gravy Fairy is good, and I'm training up a Cocoabo, simply for the Mana boost it gives :)
I've got a Grue I'm training up when it's dark, but I really need to train up a second fighter, I'm trying to decide between the Sabre toothed Lime, The Balloon Monkey or the Spooky Pirate Skeleton...
The NS is now available to me, but I think I'm going to hang on and go for the Wok of Ages so I can prep some stuff for my ascension :)
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Go for the sabre-toothed lime. There's a 2 in 5 chance you'll need it when it comes to fighting the NS depending on what she has with her.
The gravy fairy is good but used to use my volleyball almost exclusively unless I was farming for a certain object. Unless you get hold of the Mr Store familiars you really can't beat the kind of stat gains a pumped up volleyball can give you. For every 4 pounds it has you gain another stat point every fight. So with a level 25 familiar (fully pumped up + Cake Arena equipment) that's 5 points split between moxie\muscle and mysticality.
A lot of people reccomend taking the Turtle Tamer as one of your first 5 ascensions just to permanent Amphibian Sympathy for another 5 levels of familiar and the main reason for doing that is that it's another stat point every fight when you have the volleyball.
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What you want, is a Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot (http://images.kingdomofloathing.com/itemimages/npzr.gif)
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I barely use mine. :p
Cheshire Bat all the way. Not as showy as the NPZR but that thing gets me about 100% more meat from every fight as well as the stat boost I mentioned earlier.
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Well if you click on my name from the member roster you can see what i've got F-Wise, then reccomend one for my first NS fight. Any others i mightt donate like my 2 coacabo eggs i chucked into the stash :)
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I'll take a look but bear in mind that the NS just beat the **** out me twice today (First time she's beaten me in months).
My own fault for going in arrogant and unprepared when I've been really unlucky with item drops I suppose.
Out of what you've got levelled up I'd suggest using the Angry Goat. It would take too long to level up the others.
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Cool, I need to get an Angry goat add-on patch now...
*goes to check KoL wiki*
I like the member roster, it gives motivation to be topdog..... :D
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I am definitely with Karajorma on familiar choice - I used a volleyball for most of my 2nd run and it made it much faster than my first, and I've since then gotten me a store familiar that I use for something like 80% of each run - Which I especially like for the extra meat, which gets funneled directly into hairsprays and MP restorers most of the time. I do break out a gravy fairy when I'm farming for stuff or a combat familiar/barrnacle for bosses I'm not sure I can beat, but that's about it really. The others just can't beat the stat gains from a volleyball for me except in specific cases.
For the sorceress I just use whichever combat familiar happens to be the highest level at the time, though I've tried a barrnacle once with questionable success - I really couldn't tell if it even did anything noteworthy to her, so now I'm sticking with ones that actually dish out some serious pain... or mild itch, in the case of my first NS fight where I used a low level Mosquito :p
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Well, I've got a second character going, Iriad the Hobbler, he's a Disco Bandit and will be applying to the Clan soon. He's mostly intended for mixing drinks, collecting things I never picked up along the way with Thragor (Baron Ratworthy's monocle for example) and general farming.
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I say Grue!
1'st time I got lucky, straight 35's :lol: Owned!
Second time... well I got 20's :doubt: Still kicked her rear :nod:. So now prepping to go disco bandit. 2 moxie points till I get ode to booze :D
EDIT: Grue for the NS, volleyball and sombrero otherwise (sombrero is better after icy peak). And leprechaun/Gravy fairy for farming :D. Gravy fairy owns for getting red pixel potions.
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The grue is good on the correct days. If you plan ahead for when you think you'll get to ascend it can be worth training up one.
Anyway I finally managed to beat the NS and I permed armourcraftiness. Not a particularly favoured skill but on at least two occassions random number generator screwage has delayed me for a day when trying to get hold of a pair of wolf masks to make the furry suit. Now I don't need either and finding one is a nice bonus. :)
Going back around as a TT though cause I've decided to get Tenacity of the Snapper. Then I'll get Rage of the Reindeer and Snarl of the Timberwolf (assuming I can perm that one). With them all active I get 10% more muscle and +30 damage which hopefully means I can lunging-thrust smack most of enemies in the game into oblivion in one round. With those and a couple of initiative boosts I should be able to adventure at the Hole in the Sky without needing any kind of moxie boost. I'll simply win initative and smack the **** out of it before it can reply :D
That's the theory at least. If it doesn't work at least I'll have a way of beating Von Ratsworth every time. I only beat him about 50% of the time cause I want to get those drinks on day 1.
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Not to mention the the Monocle, Lucky Rabbits foot and Mining helmet make for a good farming setup, especially if you have the Gravy Fairy of the like with you :)
And don't even mention haunted Nightstands. Oh well, at least I got a grumpy restless spirit out of it :)
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Lol.. TT permed familiar weight buffs, leash of linguini, Plexiglass pith helm, Leprechaun, polka of plenty, meat detector......
45 Pound leprechaun :D. 275% meat bonus total (with the polka). Throw in the DB meat grabbing thing, the gnomish skillz, panhandling...
+310% meat. 3 lucky rabbits feet, box in the box in the box, +334%. 860 meat, per yeti (cept you can run into other stuff).
Pick an adventure with meatdropping monsters :D
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LOL Well, to be honest, it's Stars and Lines I'm after at the moment, and alas you need to go kitted up for not getting hit if at all possible ;) Even Weapon of the Pastalord doesn't one-hit kill them, and that can take down a Yeti (though at 35 Mana, it damn-well should). It's good when Ronald is full because I have enough Mana to take down 2 creatures and heal myself inbetween, before needing to recharge my Mana but otherwise, farming the Hole in the Sky is a hard job.
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:wtf: Are you doing!? Hole in the sky is weak to cold! Pull out the cone of w/e, and the gazpacho's glacial grimoire, and bam, 1 hit kills!
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Aha, didn't know they had cold weakness.
Ok, Noooo problem in that case ;)
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Be warned that the Astronomer doesn't have that weakness. Only the sleazy constellations are vulnerable to cold.
Once you have the advanced saucecrafting skill the HitS becomes much easier cause you can boost your stats with reagent portions.
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Oohh, it's friday the 13th! Doesn't seem to do anything other than try to creep me out with spooky messages though... there are even clovers at the hermit :p Maybe that day is actually especially lucky in KoL, as I spent rather fewer turns than usual building a maid and chef, and the microbrewery has an insanely good drink that beats even the tavern rewards :)
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Yeah, other than the creepy messages I've noticed no difference, though I haven't tried using a clover yet, from the image used I'm wondering if Clovers will work today ;)
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Apart from the messages there was no new content added last Friday 13th.
I'm having a really BAD ascension. I had to adventure for 50 turns at the Knoll to get the parts for the meat car, lost three times in a row to Von Ratsworth before giving up and turning off the faucet and now I've reached level 7 moxie that's so pitiful that I probably won't be able to adventure anywhere productive tomorrow either.
Bah. I know I'm whining but I can't wait to swap classes again. :D
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Must be a TT thing with the moxie problem, I'm having the exact same issue now... and it hasn't even been muscle day yet.
I'm seriously considering not even bothering with boosting moxie for the likes of the castle this run, going with a muscle potion instead and hoping to one-hit kill everything I meet. I imagine with a buffed 250+ muscle and something like a drywall axe or other high-power melee weapon, that might just work. Especially if I get lucky and get a few damage boosters like a mohawk wig.
Because if I rely on moxie like I have in my previous runs, I'll be level 14 before I can survive the airship even with +100% of it :p
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Yep. I had problems last time round and I had a pair of Stainless Steel bracers that time.
:rolleyes: Doh! That's why I'm having such a hard time of it this time round! That combined with a moxie day meant I had a fighting chance. I guess that means I'll be screwed if I go straight to Seal Clubber too.
Although at least there I can seriously boost my combat power with passive effects.
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Whooo! Drunken partay! :D
Lessee... 19 turns per drink, 3 drinks per day, 6 turns, 2 drinks, 8 turns per food, 3 food, aannnd... 47 turns per day base!
This is by myself :D
57 + 12 + 24 + 47 = 140 :D With 6 fullness slots left :D
Wooot!
Someday, after Sauceror, 50 + 8 + 95 (19 will be falling down drunk :D) + 47 = 200...
Wow. 181 turns per day, without falling down drunk. On average! 19 while drunk.
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Heh, my stash of Secret Blends of Herbs and Spices is getting into the 20's now ;) Saving them all up for the Wok of Ages. Just got the Leash of Linguini skill, it just means I'm using the other familiars all the less as I get some seriuos farming done with a 30lb gravy fairy, really need to train the little critters up for the NS.
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Whooo! Drunken partay! :D
Lessee... 19 turns per drink, 3 drinks per day, 6 turns, 2 drinks, 8 turns per food, 3 food, aannnd... 47 turns per day base!
This is by myself :D
57 + 12 + 24 + 47 = 140 :D With 6 fullness slots left :D
Wooot!
Someday, after Sauceror, 50 + 8 + 95 (19 will be falling down drunk :D) + 47 = 200...
Wow. 181 turns per day, without falling down drunk. On average! 19 while drunk.
You won't be able to use the 19 turn drinks as a Sauceror. No access to the Crosby Nash Still see.
But you shouldn't be falling down drunk at 19 once you've done the Deep Fat Friars quest. It pushes the bar up to 20 instead of 15.
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Today I make this solemn vow: I shall never again play a turtle tamer across two muscle days, but instead make damned sure I hit moxie days instead :p My muscle is high enough to start on the pirate cove or the goatlet, but my moxie is only barely enough to survive the laboratory while still taking a lot of damage. Only redeeming factor is insane hitpoints and medicinal herbs to restore them cheaply, otherwise I might be tempted to drop hardcore just to get on with it.
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Well thanks to the muscle day I managed to reach the point where the ability to have 1 hit kills outweighs the damage the monsters do. I'm taking about 30 points worth of damage every fight but I have about 400 and loads of drastic healing scrolls so I should be alright tomorrow.
The problem with muscle classes is that I consider using the medicinal herbs a waste. I've got the pulverize skill so every time I waste speen with them that's one less wad I can eat which means one less adventure and the loss of 10 rounds of twinklefairy (Which is really useful in the castle and hole in the sky)
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Whooo! Drunken partay! :D
Lessee... 19 turns per drink, 3 drinks per day, 6 turns, 2 drinks, 8 turns per food, 3 food, aannnd... 47 turns per day base!
This is by myself :D
57 + 12 + 24 + 47 = 140 :D With 6 fullness slots left :D
Wooot!
Someday, after Sauceror, 50 + 8 + 95 (19 will be falling down drunk :D) + 47 = 200...
Wow. 181 turns per day, without falling down drunk. On average! 19 while drunk.
You won't be able to use the 19 turn drinks as a Sauceror. No access to the Crosby Nash Still see.
But you shouldn't be falling down drunk at 19 once you've done the Deep Fat Friars quest. It pushes the bar up to 20 instead of 15.
Softcore. Hagnks. Lots, and lots of Prep. And anyway, ode to booze makes regular garnished drinks 19 adv average. I checked :D
And those 19 will be falling down drunk. 16 = 4*4, or 76 turns. Another drink, and you're over the edge.
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Where's the best place to get stuff like little paper umbrellas etc? I can get them from going to The Shore, but they turn up so rarely, it's not worth the amount of turns it takes to get them? Same goes for coconut shells?
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If you have the cocktailcrafting and superhuman cocktailcrafting skills you can summon 5 of them a day. So you only need to adventure if you need a specific one and the random number generator has been unkind to you.
What I do is basically drink whatever is available to me except on stats days when I try to drink something that only boosts that particular stat. If I haven't got enough of the umbrellas\coconuts\ice-cubes then I go on holiday at the shore. It costs money but the meat globe you get after 12 adventures or so gives you a pretty big boost too.
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Sorceress' Chamber
You're not tough enough to fight up here. You need to be at least level 11, with at least 70 in all of your stats.
Well that's a first!
I've got there with a base moxie of 69 so it shouldn't take me too long to get the points I need but that was kind of a surprise! :D
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Just so you know guys, Oct the 25th is St Sneaky Petes day, (like KoL paddys day+Mardi Gras) On this day of days you can drink Green beer and get special items once you reach 26 drunkeness (only achievable with liver of steel) for one day only :nod:
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Yay, wheel in the sky to the rescue! My moxie is back *sniff* :) But oh boy, were those first 30 turns up there ugly. The very definition of slugfest. With 300 HPs I could just eek out 5 fights before needing medicinal herbs, with them hitting me for 30-50 per round and me averaging 100-120 with headbutt, plus the occasional lucky one-shot kill when I got a critical. Which would've been better if I ever got initiative, which I didn't. I think I need a DB run for that passive initiative skill before I try this again. And one for drinks. And one for item drops. Actually, I think I just need a bunch of DB runs, period.
Looks like I'm gonna miss Sneaky Pete's day though, by virtue of me being out of the country at the time. But who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and happen upon a computer with a working internet connection :) And besides, I think I can live with missing a KoL holiday in favour of a real life vacation :D
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Well the RNG seems to hate me. I adventured for 30 turns at whitey's grove before I got the road to White Castle adventure. And I still haven't managed to pick up anything good from there. On top of that I'm three days into an ascension and haven't been able to summon up a single purple snowcone yet. Buying soda is costing me a fortune.
I think I'm going to drink myself into oblivion and try again tomorrow :)
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I'm trying to get through three doors into the NS lair, but i'm gonna GRIND for a bit and just have fun before i bother trying to beat her up.
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That's what I'm doing, I've been saving up secret blends and noodles for when I get the Wok of Ages, but I need to get to lvl 15 I think, which is a lot of grinding ;)
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I just want ultimate cocktail skills:D by the way, can i carry it over does anyone know, After i whoop NS? :confused:
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If you know you're ready to take her on you might as well do it and grab all that lovely experience now.
I always find it much easier to beat the NS, free the king and then level up to 15 if I'm after a high level skill as that way I can use stuff from a previous ascension like left over phonics and tiny houses etc. You can still hardcore permanent any skill you gained as long as you were still hardcore when you beat the NS. There is no need to grind adventures until you reach level 15 so that you can use Way of the Sauce or any other level 15 skill. Simply give the ***** what for and then go up to level 15 normally.
Freeing the king is the second when Hardcore ends. Not beating the NS as many people think. This isn't an issue for skills though. The only time this becomes important is if you are after one of the hardcore trophies. In those cases you do have to remain in hardcore mode to earn them. Otherwise smash that prism and grind when you can use all your previous stuff as well as getting the clan beifits like extra adventures and meat.
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I've never got this far, and i'm............. :nervous: scared :(
srsly, now i'm gonna twat her, but i cant get past the three dancing pillock statues :mad:
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The door on the left is the key, if you are lucky enough and have the keys.
*tries to think of a way to be more obscure*
*fails*
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Oh great, a frickin Fishbowl............
*cough need riddle answers*
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Well, you have one of them. Plus a bowl.
(Sorry, I'm in an enigmatic mood tonight :p)
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You have to think 'Kingdom of Loathing' style, the answers are all variations on the same word, but you'll have to fish around for what it is ;)
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Oh that was subtle.......... :lol:
I cannae be arsed with the finding blocks and instruments :(
Corrected, all i need is some STAR gear, Which i'll return after ive got the last block.
Please *Beggzorrz hard*
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Do you drop meat vortexes? ;) Actually, knowing you, you'll probably reply 'only after a curry' :p
Yeah, you need to train up a set of familiars for the next section as well. Once I get the Star Key, I'll open the last door and be in the hedge maze :)
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Hmm... I could've sworn I put both pieces of star gear in the stash along with the other cavern items, but I appear to have forgotten those. I'll try to remember that before I ascend next time. Just goes with my recent spree of forgetfulness I guess... I had a whole checklist of stuff to remember before I ascended today, and I remembered exactly none of them - Frankly I'm lucky I had even bought the skill I wanted to keep :p
PS. Accidentally ran into a nice hardcore day-one mana and booze-getting trick for those of us who still have trouble completing the tavern in one day. Set aside a clover for the sleazy back alley, and you'll get 3 drinks which give both adventures and mana, though no stats. Lucky break there, it let me start running familiar buffs from my 15th turn instead of like the 50th :)
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Green (or w/e color snowcone it is) Pet buffing spray, appropriate item... Empathy (or sympathy, whichever is a buff) (which you can get from a bot char, check Coldfront).
Voila. No training needed for a 21 farmiliar. Insta kill all the sorceress's pets for 2K
Whoops. Do Superhuman and Advanced cocktailcrafting stack, or do they overwrite? I hope they overwrite, cos otherwise I'm gonna have to ascend again in a bit.
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Basically you'll need both to make the best booze.
And I wish someone had mentioned the star hat being missing from the stash. I smashed up over a hundred of them only 4 days ago. I could have easily dumped some in the stash :)
Once I get past the NS I'll add some more.
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There was a hat in staff in the stash, I just borrowed 'em and put them back :)
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Thragor the (one of you :nervous:) hath lent me the bits i need, I'm just trying to earn lines and stars for the star starfish. :)
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I put the hat and staff in :D
And I steal them every time I get to level 11. :P
Damn, I have to do DB again, even if just for the extra two accessories per day :(
Whoo, beat the NS again. I find that if you can't afford (or are too lazy to get) red pixel potions, casts work almost as well.
At 1/20 the price, too.
But only with ambidextrous funkslinging :(
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LOL Yup, that was me :) Which was why I borrowed the clan set ;)
I'm going to have 2 star keys once I get it back, so I'll drop one of those in the stash as well :)
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Damn! She's got a bloody levitating potato, and the Barrrnacle is the one familiar that I haven't trained much :/
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Green (or w/e color snowcone it is) Pet buffing spray, appropriate item... Empathy (or sympathy, whichever is a buff) (which you can get from a bot char, check Coldfront).
The tome of snowcone summoning absolutely the best purchase I ever made in the game. Cost me a fortune for the Mr A but I've never regretted it. Unfortunately it will cost newbies over 30 million meat to buy one these days (Really wish I'd bought two now!). Fortunately you can buy the snowcones themselves on the open market for reasonable prices.
If you're struggling flip just shout out as I can buff you with empathy (which give your familiar 5 pounds) and I can send you a pet buffing spray if you don't have a knob goblin uniform to get one yourself. That's 10 pounds of potato you don't have to get :)
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Hmmmm I might take you up on that, combined with the leash of linguini and since that'd also include the familiars equipment, that would jump it straight up to 20lbs :D
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My Limes 25LB, but the Hole in the sky keeps raping me silly while i'm trying to get this fricking Fish, The star-charts are just drops right? :confused:
What are you sporting familiar wise? doesnt lead necklace fit anything?
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You need to apply the stars and lines to a Star Chart, you need to use a Star Chart and then it'll ask for a number of stars and lines, use 6 stars and 4 lines for a Starfish.
The lead necklace does fit anything, whereas you can get specific items for specific famliars, for example Cocoabo weighs 5lb more when you quip it with the chocolate spurs, but only gains 1lb for a lead necklace ;)
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Fair enough, has anyone got a spare star + line and star starfish chart *drops several meat vortexes*
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Ding Dong the ***** is dead :D
Ok, that was harder than I make it sound, it took about 8 attempts, theres nothing more depressing than sitting reading, over and over again, 'As you try to use that skill.....'
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Bah, my sauceror didn't quite make it to inside cobb's know today :(
Knew I shoulda saved hagnk pulls :D
Ah well, tommorow, a new era arises. The era of... Reagent Pasta! :D
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Is there a newbie guide for this? I've been trying, and it's fun, but I'm getting nowhere.
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There is a documentation link in the top menu, which explains the basics. If that's not enough, there's the KoL Wiki (http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Main_Page), but be warned that this is filled with spoilers and should be avoided if you want to figure something out for yourself.
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Well I've managed to beat the NS again and I'm planning on laying the smack down at Spookyraven manor before I ascend. That leaves me with nearly 200 turns to burn off and almost 1500 points worth of mana I have absolutely no use for.
As usual I'll be buffing random members of the clan. If there's anything in particular you want shout out :)
Here's what I have that I can buff you with.
Empathy of the Newt (HP)
Tenacity of the Snapper (HP)
Astral Shell (HP)
Aloysius' Antiphon of Aptitude (HP)
The Moxious Madrigal (HP)
The Polka of Plenty (HP)
Fat Leon's Phat Loot Lyric (HP)
Stevedave's Shanty of Superiority (HP)
In addition if there is any furniture you want added to the rumpus room feel free to shout out now. :)
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Moxious Madrigal pls- And is there an e-ikea catalogue?
Or at least a K(ol)atologe?
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I basically looked up everything in Kol wiki entry for the Rumpus Room (http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Clan_Rumpus_Room). Not really any major spoilers in that section.
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Another Empathy boost would be nice if possible, most monsters are one-hit kills for me now, except Goth Giants, Nightstands and the occasional stubborn Star-sign, so it'd be cool to go farming with a 40lb Gravy Fairy ;)
Edit : Oh, and I bumped into some wierd skeleton 'Lord' type character in the Cemetery who kicked my ass, only ever seen him once...
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Sounds like you met Skelter Butleton, the Butler Skeleton. (Have you been adventuring in Spookyraven manor a fair bit this ascension?)
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Yeah, been in their a fair bit recently, been having terrible luck getting the keys to the upstairs rooms.
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Yeah. I wasted about 20 adventures in the conservatory before I realised that I can't actually get the key till I've done some things elsewhere in the manor first.
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I believe you have to keep going in the pool room (i aint saying billiards ever) and get offered a game by a spook whilest you have Chalky hands :nod: Thats the start...........
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Yay! A Pastamancer is me!
I'm going to start maxing stuff tomorrow, need to do some serious farming for cash for MSG, but that's not too bad, I'll try to get us a good stock of food before I ascend though :)
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Yeah. I wasted about 20 adventures in the conservatory before I realised that I can't actually get the key till I've done some things elsewhere in the manor first.
I've wasted about 300 trying to get that firking familiar.
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What familiars this?
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Well, time to try get something plexiglass (shudders)
Glad it's a stat day :D
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I'd strongly advise trying at least a couple of non-path HC runs first, first to get a few HC permed skills down*, but mainly to get used to the playstyle - Wasting turns in hardcore hurts, and it will hurt even more in oxy, and it takes a little getting used to. Rewards are great though, and I'm definitely looking forward to getting my hands on some plexi as well once I summon up enough patience to actually try :)
*(I'm thinking mad looting skills and some familiar buffs at the least or oxycore will be painfully slow. Saucecrafting would be very nice as well to save leveling time for surviving after the beanstalk)
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One day Aldo and I will regale you youngsters with tales of how horrible it was to attempt an oxycore ascension the day that they were first possible :D
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One day Aldo and I will regale you youngsters with tales of how horrible it was to attempt an oxycore ascension the day that they were first possible :D
Not until they get orf my lawn!
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Happy Oyster egg day all by the way. I got 33 eggs so far ;7
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Damn, I started playing this game in 2004. It is really fun, but I got tired of it. My account still exists, I think number 15417 or something low like that.
The game has changed so much since I started playing. I just couldn't get back into it after being away from it for so long.
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Just had a thought, Who wants to take over my Disco Bandit while i'm away?
*sobs into keyboard at thought of handing lord muscle over*
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Anybody still playing besides me?