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Title: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: JOTRkid on September 26, 2006, 01:54:26 pm
i changed some of the mod files after extracting them... using notepad of course-and now it just crashes when i try to load it-bunch if errors like
"can't find gtva rapid laser blah blah blah."
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: JOTRkid on September 26, 2006, 01:56:15 pm
ADDED: how can i recompile the files?
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Turey on September 26, 2006, 02:02:37 pm
if you extacted them from the .vp, just delete or move the files you took out. The . vp's should not have changed when you pulled the files out.

you shouldn't need to recompile ANYTHING. Mods don't need to be "compiled".
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: JOTRkid on September 26, 2006, 02:04:45 pm
i changed some of the table files and now it crashes. i made the shocker long range and smaller.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Turey on September 26, 2006, 02:14:32 pm
unless you repacked the .vp's, you should be able to just delete the tables you extracted and it should work fine.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: JOTRkid on September 26, 2006, 02:15:49 pm
but my point is i want to change the files for stuff so i can beat the finial mission.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Turey on September 26, 2006, 02:24:14 pm
but my point is i want to change the files for stuff so i can beat the finial mission.


OHHHHHH..... that explains it.

post a pic of your mod folder and I'll help you figure it out.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Mobius on September 26, 2006, 03:24:17 pm
Unless you are playing with Hard or insane difficulty,the final mission shouldn't be so difficult.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Snail on September 26, 2006, 03:26:05 pm
Much less than the previous mission, IMO.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Mobius on September 26, 2006, 03:39:49 pm
Uh? What's the matter with Nemesis?
Disarming the Nemesis? Staying alive? Defend the warships?
Mah.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Shadow0000 on September 26, 2006, 05:57:38 pm
I may be mistaken, but you're talking about mission 14, and the final mission is the number 15, which involves the Gigas. Yes, mission 14 is more difficult than 15, but in the other hand, if your squadron is destroyed easily and you're left alone, then it becomes impossible unless you're playing in Very Easy.

It's a matter of defend your wing, even so the AI is just plain dumb, they would surely do a frontal attack against the Gigas.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: asyikarea51 on September 26, 2006, 11:40:10 pm
It's a matter of defend your wing, even so the AI is just plain dumb, they would surely do a frontal against the Gigas.

I think I'm beginning to understand why ai-chase is bad for cap battles...
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Shadow0000 on September 27, 2006, 12:13:42 am
I am being kind saying that the AI is plain dumb, now I remember it was even worse, the problems are the Shivan Comm Nodes, your comrades will just shoot at it, and once it is destroyed they just stand in there, until the explosion envelops them, they could fire from far away, but no, they have start shooting when there is like 1 pixel (voxel) of distance between them.

If this happens you have 2 options, order your allies to ignore or not attack it, and destroy the Comm Node alone, or before it's HP reachs 0% order your allies to attack a distant target, that way they will take distance.

Fear the Shivan Comm Node, Shivan's most powerful weapon. The funny part is that is not even a weapon:

"Alpha 1: Commander ?, my teammates where defeated by an unnarmed structure", has someone played Deus Ex Machina campaign ?, that's what I meant.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Mad Bomber on September 28, 2006, 07:57:49 pm
The sad thing is that back in FS1, fighters and bombers used to flee exploding capital ships...
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Snail on September 29, 2006, 07:31:45 am
The explosion was the capital ship's anti-fighter weapon in FS1.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Mobius on September 29, 2006, 12:44:09 pm
The sad thing is that back in FS1, fighters and bombers used to flee exploding capital ships...

A proposal for the next build of FS Open?
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Snail on September 29, 2006, 02:02:19 pm
You can already do that with the AI Profiles table, I think... But I'm not sure. You can make the capital ships' explosions act like those in FS1, that I know for sure, but I'm not too sure about making fighters run away from those explosions.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Mobius on September 29, 2006, 03:48:19 pm
Like for the dumbfire? It's possible.
Why these things aren't set as default?
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Shadow0000 on September 29, 2006, 04:24:55 pm
Again, I am not sure at all, but yes, they runaway, the problem as I said is that they get too close, imagine you have an Ennead and a Sabus, both of them would attack the target from the same distance, even when their speed are totally different, like if they could put safe of the explosion in a equally manner.
The AI doesn't make difference based on the ship max speed, or neither on the enemy mass, it becomes commons that some type of ships gets caught by the shockwave and others simply not.

Shivan Comm Nodes explode quite fast after it's HP reachs 0%, plus the shockwave has a considerable range for it's mass which usually damages your allies, in mission 15 there are 3 Comm Nodes, so if the first don't kill them, the second will do, or the third, this usually don't happen with other Classes, like Cruisers.

If someone has doubts about this, you can just destroy all the enemies on screen, fighter and bombers mostly, and then start using your squadron to order to destroy the Shivan Comm Nodes one by one to test how efficient they are.
Title: Re: i hacked some files-now crash.
Post by: Mobius on September 29, 2006, 04:50:22 pm
When I destroy a Comm Node I engage my afterburners and order my wingmen to follow me...