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Title: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Nuke on October 05, 2006, 12:49:01 am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061002/ap_on_re_us/amish_school_shooting

god damn humans are sick ****s.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Rictor on October 05, 2006, 12:52:09 am
Yeah, I heard about this. Honestly, the Amish are pretty much the most innocent people around, they don't deserve this ****. AFAIK, there's still no motive that's been ascertained. I guess there's no immunity from the troubles of the modern world.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 02:53:16 am
Yeah, I heard about this. Honestly, the Amish are pretty much the most innocent people around, they don't deserve this ****. AFAIK, there's still no motive that's been ascertained. I guess there's no immunity from the troubles of the modern world.

Apparently the gunman had molested family members 20 years ago (he was 12 and they were 5) and had been dreaming about it (with his young daughters) again; reportedly he was prepared for a seige and had a 'kit' including a ****load of ammunition, stungun, pliers, wood, rope and (no joke) lubricant.  There's also a suggestion the death (miscarriage, I think) of his infant daughter 3 years ago was a partial trigger.

(this is at least 3 days old, BTW, how come it's only been posted now?  Surely it's been all over the papers and news in the US as with the UK?)
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Nuke on October 05, 2006, 04:11:24 am
i guess everyone was buisy with bush and north korea to care.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mefustae on October 05, 2006, 04:14:19 am
(this is at least 3 days old, BTW, how come it's only been posted now?  Surely it's been all over the papers and news in the US as with the UK?)
I was wondering that myself, seen the story crop on a bunch of other forums far earlier. Seems like HLP is starting to get a little slow these days.

Anyway, terrible thing this is and what what. I kinda feel bad for making a joke to myself when I heard the wounded Amish girls were taken to hospital via helicopter, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 04:30:16 am
Anyway, terrible thing this is and what what. I kinda feel bad for making a joke to myself when I heard the wounded Amish girls were taken to hospital via helicopter, for obvious reasons.

Oh, great - now i'm imagining a wooden horse powered chopper.....
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mefustae on October 05, 2006, 04:33:56 am
Davinchi's spinning in his grave.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 04:35:30 am
Davinchi's spinning in his grave.

Excellent, hook him up to George Orwell and we'll have perpetual motion machine :D
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mefustae on October 05, 2006, 04:38:56 am
Lovely, now Carnot's spinning in his grave, too! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 04:41:35 am
That's why they call it perpetual ;)
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: karajorma on October 05, 2006, 04:42:20 am
Oh, great - now i'm imagining a wooden horse powered chopper.....

Where would you get the wooden horses from? I hear the Trojans are fresh out.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Unknown Target on October 05, 2006, 06:27:40 am
Sorry, I really just don't care. There's too much pain in the world and in the news to allow somebody to live a happy life if they care about every sick thing they read. For my sake, I just stopped reading those things a long time ago.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mefustae on October 05, 2006, 06:36:03 am
Just for a political commentary, I recall reading a report on this a few days after it happened, where it mention that this was something like the third school shooting in as many weeks. Only in America, eh?
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: achtung on October 05, 2006, 07:02:20 am
Just had an on-demand writing about school violence yesterday, it's pretty obvious what triggered that.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: ToecrusherHammerjaw on October 05, 2006, 07:27:24 am
Sorry, I really just don't care. There's too much pain in the world and in the news to allow somebody to live a happy life if they care about every sick thing they read. For my sake, I just stopped reading those things a long time ago.

I only wish I was so lucky.  I tend to pay attention to everything.  That's my problem.  It certainly doesn't help that I live about an hour from where the Amish shooting took place.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 07:53:10 am
Sorry, I really just don't care. There's too much pain in the world and in the news to allow somebody to live a happy life if they care about every sick thing they read. For my sake, I just stopped reading those things a long time ago.

How can you measure the good things in life if you don't have the bad things as a yardstick?
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Nuke on October 05, 2006, 09:52:30 am
Sorry, I really just don't care. There's too much pain in the world and in the news to allow somebody to live a happy life if they care about every sick thing they read. For my sake, I just stopped reading those things a long time ago.

i find that posting sick articles promotes world destruction. indirextly of course but every little bit helps. :D
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mefustae on October 05, 2006, 09:59:17 am
i find that posting sick articles promotes world destruction. indirextly of course but every little bit helps. :D
And I find the use terrible spelling and grammar promotes suicide amongst English teachers. :p
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 10:01:18 am
i find that posting sick articles promotes world destruction. indirextly of course but every little bit helps. :D

I find you are a very miserable bastard who should probably have a nice scone and possibly some jam.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mars on October 05, 2006, 10:04:37 am
The school in Colorado where the shooting occured is one of those small, rich, schools where no one expects this kind of thing.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 10:05:53 am
The school in Colorado where the shooting occured is one of those small, rich, public schools where no one expects this kind of thing.

Would you expect it any other school?
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mars on October 05, 2006, 10:06:47 am
Montbello? Yeah... there's somone stabbed fairly regularly there. Overland? Not usually, but I could see it.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 10:19:33 am
Montbello? Yeah... there's somone stabbed fairly regularly there. Overland? Not usually, but I could see it.

You'd actually expect a school shooting?  (serious question)
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mars on October 05, 2006, 10:24:45 am
In some High schools, I wouldn't expect, but I wouldn't be surprised at all. Montbello in particular is basically gang run, and it isn't the worst.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 05, 2006, 10:31:25 am
Just for a political commentary, I recall reading a report on this a few days after it happened, where it mention that this was something like the third school shooting in as many weeks. Only in America, eh?

Only the second in three weeks in America. The other was Canadian.[/nitpick]

That aside, apparently they can't actually confirm that anything the guy said on the phone to his wife was true. It appears he might have been talking out of his ass, so the motive is still up in the air.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: aldo_14 on October 05, 2006, 10:33:33 am
In some High schools, I wouldn't expect, but I wouldn't be surprised at all. Montbello in particular is basically gang run, and it isn't the worst.

I find it baffling to have a situation, in any country, where a shooting in a school would be anything less than utterly shocking.  Hell, even a school stabbing is major news here (of course, the smaller UK population means we have less opportunity for such a thing to happen).
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Kosh on October 05, 2006, 10:09:08 pm
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Only the second in three weeks in America. The other was Canadian.[/nitpick]


There was another one where a 15 year old kid walking into his school and shot his principle.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: ToecrusherHammerjaw on October 06, 2006, 07:52:40 am
You sure you're not thinking of April 2003, the Red Lion shooting?  The kid was 14, and I would know.  I went to school there.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Slasher on October 06, 2006, 10:45:36 am
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/710040.html
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Triple Ace on October 06, 2006, 09:02:59 pm
I was listening to the raido on my way to work when they played a tape with an interview with a woman. This woman said those dead amish girls deserved to die. I wanted to reach through my radio and hit that *****. They did nothing to deserve what they got. People make me sick.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Kosh on October 06, 2006, 11:29:05 pm
I was listening to the raido on my way to work when they played a tape with an interview with a woman. This woman said those dead amish girls deserved to die. I wanted to reach through my radio and hit that *****. They did nothing to deserve what they got. People make me sick.


:wtf: How did she justify that reasoning?
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: vyper on October 07, 2006, 07:30:38 am
I imagine the same way people justify saying that homosexuality is responsible for US army deaths. "God did it".
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Triple Ace on October 07, 2006, 10:51:00 pm
I was listening to the raido on my way to work when they played a tape with an interview with a woman. This woman said those dead amish girls deserved to die. I wanted to reach through my radio and hit that *****. They did nothing to deserve what they got. People make me sick.


:wtf: How did she justify that reasoning?

She really didn't. I think she was some kind of religious nut. Even after the interview said something about some of the girls being put on hooks and raped, she still said they deserved it. After the tape, the radio host had to take a break. He was getting very emotional and started to cry, and this was on a rock/metal station.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Mongoose on October 08, 2006, 02:36:19 pm
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that she was one of those Westboro Baptist ****ers.  I don't think I'm the type of person that could be easily driven to commit murder, but if anything could do it, it'd be some of the vile **** that those people spew.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Polpolion on October 08, 2006, 04:00:25 pm
Every religion has its share of radicals...
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: Triple Ace on October 08, 2006, 11:12:20 pm
And thats why I'm glad not to be part of a religion and not having religious beliefs either.
Title: Re: school shootings, not even the amish are safe!
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 09, 2006, 01:12:00 am
Of course, there are collectively more non-religious radicals than religious ones, so that just makes you more likely to be one. Catch-22.