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Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Grey Wolf on December 09, 2001, 07:42:00 pm
And anyone know how to make beams w/o photoshop?
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Nico on December 09, 2001, 07:54:00 pm
yes: either use two volumetric directional lights, either make a cylinder and apply a glow to it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Fineus on December 10, 2001, 03:13:00 am
And theres probably loads of tutorials around on Google.com and so on...
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Ryx on December 10, 2001, 03:43:00 am
Create a super spray Particle System.
   Set the speed way up (150+).
   The particle type i use is facing.
   Make sure the particles doesn't grow or anything.
*Edit: you may want to play around with some of these settings too.*  

Assign a Raytrace map to it.
   Give it a material effects ID (say 1).
   You may want to change Diffuse colour, luminosity and transparency.

Open Video-Post.
   Add a scene event.
   Add an image filter event -> choose lens effects glow.

Tweak.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Here's a quick one i made
   (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/beam1.jpg)  
Note: I use MAX 4

[This message has been edited by Ryx (edited 12-10-2001).]
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: wEvil on December 10, 2001, 06:00:00 pm
use the combustion environment effect with a sphere gizmo.

make sure the detail isnt too high

create an omni light and add a volume effect and set the attenuation parameters to the desired range.

create 6 spray particle systems and apply glow.

finally, use the particle array system to frag your object and use the visiblity track in trackview to make the origional geometry invisible.

voila.

a nice explosion with chunks.


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Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Kazan on December 10, 2001, 09:41:00 pm
man this shizat sounds easy in max
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Nico on December 11, 2001, 05:21:00 am
 
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Originally posted by wEvil:
use the combustion environment effect with a sphere gizmo.

make sure the detail isnt too high

create an omni light and add a volume effect and set the attenuation parameters to the desired range.

create 6 spray particle systems and apply glow.

finally, use the particle array system to frag your object and use the visiblity track in trackview to make the origional geometry invisible.

voila.

a nice explosion with chunks.



why 6 spray particles? why no just a single cloud one?
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: CougEr on December 11, 2001, 05:30:00 am
ermmm...
looks around,
There is a copy of that Illusion proggy floating about. Easy to make explosion with that particle ani proggy.
 It saves alpha channels as well so easy to import as a background or foreground.


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Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: wEvil on December 11, 2001, 11:05:00 am
6 Spray systems will give you more control than the cloud system, which sucks  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

If you're after real volumic explosions, look at afterburn of pyrocluster but be prepared to spend alot of time away from your computer because they are very slow.

Almost all volumic renders are slow  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

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have you ANY idea of how much trouble you're in?
assault on a police officer.
Theft of police property.
Illegal possesion of a firearm.
FIVE counts of attempted murder.
That comes to...

twenty-nine dollars and 14 cents.
cash, cheque or credit card?
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Vertigo1 on December 13, 2001, 11:57:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Kazan:
man this shizat sounds easy in max

Ohh it is.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)  Even in old versions like R2.5.



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Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Setekh on December 14, 2001, 02:31:00 am
 
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Originally posted by wEvil:
Almost all volumic renders are slow   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

Yeah, volumetrics can be nasty  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/redface.gif) But damn they look good if you do them right.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Shrike on December 14, 2001, 11:08:00 pm
Yeh.... shudder at raytraced pictures with lots of volumetrics.
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: Nico on December 15, 2001, 09:08:00 am
actually, i think volumetric lights are set to ray tracing by default, you have no choice, that's why it's that slow (put a grid sphere around one, it looks sweet  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Anyone have explosion plugins for MAX 3.1?
Post by: wEvil on December 15, 2001, 10:33:00 am
They are set to whatever shadow algorythm the light uses.

Shadow maps work, but they're not much faster since by definition a volume effect is a voxel/raytrace entity.  

Shadow maps are ugly.
Shadow maps give you cancer.
Shadow maps make your teeth fall out.


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have you ANY idea of how much trouble you're in?
assault on a police officer.
Theft of police property.
Illegal possesion of a firearm.
FIVE counts of attempted murder.
That comes to...

twenty-nine dollars and 14 cents.
cash, cheque or credit card?