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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Shrike on December 13, 2001, 05:59:00 pm
Breaking with the longstanding tradition of using mythological names, GTVA command officially inaugurated the Gateway Portal Project in Delta Serpentis on April 24th, 2371.  This project's goal was to build a subspace portal, based on the theories and technologies developed from sensor scan data gained from the Knossos Portal in the Gamma Draconis system. The first trial test of the subspace field generators was on September 18th, 2373, and as of May 19th, 2374, the entire system was deemed ready for full scale operational testing.

This picture was taken mere minutes before the first full trial run on May 19th, after all traffic had been cleared from the immediate area.  Visible is the main support ring which houses the superconducting power transfer systems and supports the subspace field emitters.  There are four primary emitters and six secondary ones, counterotating relative to each other.  Also visible outside the main ring are the four power generators, needed to supply the voracious energy demands of the first generation node stabilization fields.

As completed, the Gateway Portal has an internal diameter of roughly 1,850 meters, more than sufficient to allow node access to the largest GTVA capital ships and civilian transports.

 

Silly me, forgot to bump map it.  Whoops.  And yes, as you can tell by the visible polys, this is a model for FS.  Why'd I do it?  Cause I was bored mostly..... I felt we needed a real Terran Knossos.

[This message has been edited by Shrike (edited 12-13-2001).]
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Thorn on December 13, 2001, 06:02:00 pm
man, thats sweet...
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Kazan on December 13, 2001, 06:03:00 pm
very nice
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Sandwich on December 13, 2001, 06:12:00 pm
hmmm.... First impressions are that it looks kinda "plain", but I guess that improves drastically when it rotates.

Second, those power generators seem a little boxy/plain from this viewpoint, although I can see what looks to be like more modeled detail in the outer face of the upper-left one.

Third, the ring looks a bit plain too - some low-poly shapes here and there to break up the consistency would be cool.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Last, Having the generators free-floating just doesn't sit right with me... When I was considering how to shape the Knossos extension to the Acadia (GTExK? xP? - Wahh!! XP!!!!   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) ), I thought about having the counter-rotating parts spinning inside a stationary rail of sorts. Anywaay, justr having them float there looks to me a bit... off... :-/

Nitpicking aside, it has a nice Terran look, and I like the shape of those emitters. The texturing on the outside face of the upper-left one is amazing - it's hard to tell whether it's a texture or if there are modeled pipes there. Lucky for me I recognize the texture you used, though...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) Good job, dude.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Shrike on December 13, 2001, 06:31:00 pm
Well, I wanted to strike a balance between detail and polyon count.... The generators are basically boxed fusion generators, and the main ring is just that, a support ring.

I thought about putting a little control cabin on somewhere, but decided against it.  
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Anaz on December 13, 2001, 07:24:00 pm
Hmmm, I might want to work on the GTEx* for the Knosos...
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: IceFire on December 13, 2001, 08:36:00 pm
Very nice Shrike!  Very nice!

If we didn't have Charon, I'd ask for it  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Setekh on December 14, 2001, 02:17:00 am
Dude, that's flippin' sweet!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Nico on December 14, 2001, 03:33:00 am
Lol  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
One more terran knossos  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Nice one, but I think Aldo's one rules (even more than the charon in fact)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Bobboau on December 14, 2001, 04:24:00 am
were is that

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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: aldo_14 on December 14, 2001, 04:57:00 am
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
Lol   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
One more terran knossos   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Nice one, but I think Aldo's one rules (even more than the charon in fact)

hush....

Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Sandwich on December 14, 2001, 05:06:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Analazon:
Hmmm, I might want to work on the GTEx* for the Knosos...

*gives Analazon the once-over*

Work in what way, laddie?



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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Mad Bomber on December 14, 2001, 05:18:00 am
Very impressive model  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

The backstory seems a bit unrealistic, though. There is no way the GTVA would have been able to come up with the money or resources to finance such a project, and complete the construction in 7 years.

Especially not with a thoroughly weakened economy and military, not to mention 200 million or so Capellan refugees to deal with. I'd put the timetable a bit farther ahead, maybe 2377 or '78.

Otherwise, it's great  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Styxx on December 14, 2001, 05:32:00 am
Really nice model there, but you could start to use some of that free time o' yours to work on some of the stuff you have to do for MT...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Wildfire on December 14, 2001, 06:01:00 am
Nice model.

Can it be used for FS2? And if so where can I download it (if its available).

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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: joek on December 14, 2001, 09:02:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Breaking with the longstanding tradition of using mythological names...

That reminds me... if anyone's looking for Terran Portal names that are not "Charon", I've thought of two: Bifrost (the Viking rainbow bridge that provided access to Asgard), or James Whiteside (the discoverer of subspace).

As for Shrike's portal... I also think it looks cool (the texturing is great  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)), but a little on the skimpy side, the ring holding the stuff looks thin... although at the size it is, in-game it probably looks huge and not skinny.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Joe.

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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: aldo_14 on December 14, 2001, 09:07:00 am
Methinks it's a bit small  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) , but a very nice model  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Nico on December 14, 2001, 10:39:00 am
 
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
hush....


wasn't I suposed to mention it? if so, sorry  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: aldo_14 on December 14, 2001, 12:51:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
wasn't I suposed to mention it? if so, sorry   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)



As long as nobody knows what it is, what it looks like sor what it's for, I think you're ok  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: CP5670 on December 14, 2001, 02:01:00 pm
That looks quite realistic; fits nicely with the Terran ship styles. I do agree with Mad Bomber though in that the Knossos could not possibly have been completed in 7 years; 20 or so years sounds a bit more reasonable IMHO. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Still, that can be changed very easily; good model overall. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Shrike on December 14, 2001, 03:35:00 pm
Need I remind you you how fast GTVA R&D is?  Plus this thing is about two kilometers across....still smaller than a destroyer.  And the GTVA has well over a hundred destroyers.  7 years is reasonable IMO.

In fact, I purposely designed it to be a 'lead up' to the Charon portal in general looks.  Plus I did in yesterday afternoon in an hour or so...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: aldo_14 on December 14, 2001, 03:42:00 pm
You could have some neat defense missions defending a smaller Knossos from attack during an evacuation, methinks.
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Ace on December 14, 2001, 05:39:00 pm
I could see the GTVI fielding some of these in ummm... unique locations...

Like some crazy old guy said: "Why have one when you can have two for twice the price!"

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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Setekh on December 14, 2001, 09:57:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by aldo_14:

As long as nobody knows what it is, what it looks like sor what it's for, I think you're ok   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Time to do some hunting around the FTP.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Alikchi on December 15, 2001, 12:27:00 am
How'd you do the background? Glitterato?

It reminds me of IW2 backgrounds..great stuff that.
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: mikhael on December 15, 2001, 12:53:00 am
Completely off topic, but since IW2 was mentioned: does space in IW2 seem too... bright to anyone? It doesn't feel like the cold and inky black. It feels more like flying in endless evening sky.

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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Shrike on December 15, 2001, 01:16:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Alikchi:
How'd you do the background? Glitterato?

It reminds me of IW2 backgrounds..great stuff that.

Nah, noise map starfield with a gradient ramp nebula.  Simple MAX trick.
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: NeoHunter on December 15, 2001, 01:43:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Nah, noise map starfield with a gradient ramp nebula.  Simple MAX trick.

Never heard of that trick before....


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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Shrike on December 15, 2001, 02:08:00 am
Right out of the MAX 3.0 tutorials.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: NeoHunter on December 15, 2001, 03:42:00 am
Wonder if I will find it in MAX 4.0......*starts up MAX 4.0*

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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Sandwich on December 15, 2001, 06:00:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by mikhael:
Completely off topic, but since IW2 was mentioned: does space in IW2 seem too... bright to anyone? It doesn't feel like the cold and inky black. It feels more like flying in endless evening sky.


Yep... but it changes in other systems...



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Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: aldo_14 on December 15, 2001, 08:56:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Time to do some hunting around the FTP.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)

Some luck...it's not even up there yet  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)

Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Nico on December 15, 2001, 08:58:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by NeoHunter:
Wonder if I will find it in MAX 4.0......*starts up MAX 4.0*


yup, I used that for my gigantic fleet render

Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Setekh on December 15, 2001, 11:41:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by aldo_14:
Some luck...it's not even up there yet   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)


Oh, peanuts.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Shrike on December 16, 2001, 12:52:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Oh, peanuts.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Time to pull his FTP access ask nicely to see it, eh?
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Setekh on December 16, 2001, 12:58:00 am
Mmmm, strike tags.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: A Terran Knossos
Post by: Fineus on December 16, 2001, 02:28:00 am
Ah, the wonders of administration  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif)