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Title: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Ford Prefect on October 12, 2006, 12:32:05 am
There's no question-- the religious right is entirely full of ****. But they're still amateurs, because being full of **** isn't enough for the Bush White House. Oh no, this administration is so full of ****, the **** they're full of is actually full of ****.

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/10/just_plain_goof.html (http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/10/just_plain_goof.html)
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Nuke on October 12, 2006, 02:45:03 am
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The stakes couldn't be any higher. . . There are extreme elements that use religion to achieve objectives

you mean like the romans, the christians, the republicans, the egyptians, the muslims, the politicians, the united states, the church of satan, bush himself, this list goes on and on and on.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Mefustae on October 12, 2006, 04:29:18 am
Church of satan?
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Nuke on October 12, 2006, 04:43:03 am
you know anton's litle cult :D im supprised you havent heard of them, they get alot of air time on the history channel.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Mefustae on October 12, 2006, 04:46:02 am
Riiiiight. :nervous:

Anyway, I don't really find this surprising in the least. Religious groups are there for one, simple reason; to be exploited by those with power. Think about it.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: karajorma on October 12, 2006, 05:01:07 am
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Strauss believed that the liberal idea of individual freedom led people to question everything—all values, all moral truths. Instead, people were led by their own selfish desires. And this threatened to tear apart the shared values which held society together. But there was a way to stop this, Strauss believed. It was for politicians to assert powerful and inspiring myths that everyone could believe in. They might not be true, but they were necessary illusions. One of these was religion; the other was the myth of the nation. And in America, that was the idea that the country had a unique destiny to battle the forces of evil throughout the world.

SNIP

The neoconservatives were idealists. Their aim was to try and stop the social disintegration they believed liberal freedoms had unleashed. They wanted to find a way of uniting the people, by giving them a shared purpose. One of their great influences in doing this would be the theories of Leo Strauss.

Seriously guys. Beg, borrow or steal a copy of The Power of Nightmares. I'm pretty sure it's available on bitTorrent amongst others. The fact that the majority of the neo-cons don't believe in anything other than using the christian right isn't exactly new to me.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: aldo_14 on October 12, 2006, 05:06:42 am
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Strauss believed that the liberal idea of individual freedom led people to question everything—all values, all moral truths. Instead, people were led by their own selfish desires. And this threatened to tear apart the shared values which held society together. But there was a way to stop this, Strauss believed. It was for politicians to assert powerful and inspiring myths that everyone could believe in. They might not be true, but they were necessary illusions. One of these was religion; the other was the myth of the nation. And in America, that was the idea that the country had a unique destiny to battle the forces of evil throughout the world.

SNIP

The neoconservatives were idealists. Their aim was to try and stop the social disintegration they believed liberal freedoms had unleashed. They wanted to find a way of uniting the people, by giving them a shared purpose. One of their great influences in doing this would be the theories of Leo Strauss.

Seriously guys. Beg, borrow or steal a copy of The Power of Nightmares. I'm pretty sure it's available on bitTorrent amongst others. The fact that the majority of the neo-cons don't believe in anything other than using the christian right isn't exactly new to me.

http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Ford Prefect on October 12, 2006, 09:11:35 pm
Next part (http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/10/a_****ing_faith.html), if anyone's interested. Ironically, the Bush administration has given me one thing on which I can agree with them.

EDIT: You have to be logged in for this link to work-- it has a naughty word in it.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: KappaWing on October 15, 2006, 04:26:42 pm
you know anton's litle cult :D im supprised you havent heard of them, they get alot of air time on the history channel.

http://www.churchofsatan.com  :)

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Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: eagleclaw on October 15, 2006, 04:36:16 pm
Totally agree with you. We have are own little chruch cult up here that I call the "Inner Circle". They got a chruch/house made free of charge. And thats bull****. I hate when they say its for god. But for there greedly little selves.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: BlackDove on October 15, 2006, 06:58:51 pm
EDIT: You have to be logged in for this link to work-- it has a naughty word in it.

Actually you have to be logged in and not be a pussy to get the link to work. Have to have the censor off in your options. Like for example, the way in which eagleclaw doesn't.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Nuke on October 15, 2006, 09:00:20 pm
intresting fact: the chrisitan church is guilty of far more atrocities than the church of satan.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Bobboau on October 15, 2006, 09:44:47 pm
well it hasn't been around as long, you can't rush these things, just give it time to mature a bit and I'm sure the church of Satan will bring about horrors the likes of wich the wolrd can not at this time comprehend.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: BlackDove on October 15, 2006, 10:28:51 pm
Highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Nuke on October 16, 2006, 12:08:08 am
the church of satan is loosing footing sence the death of anton levey. while it it true its not a long lasting cult/religion. my point it more atrocities will be commited in the name of good than will ever be done in the name of evil.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: BlackDove on October 16, 2006, 12:22:22 am
Yeah we got it.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: AqueousShadow on October 16, 2006, 12:29:08 am
And more good things have been/will be done in the name of good than in the name of evil.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Ford Prefect on October 16, 2006, 12:32:18 am
Nobody does anything in the name of evil.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Nuke on October 16, 2006, 01:39:02 am
it is twice as evil to do an evil thing in the name of good as it is to do an evil thing in the name of evil.

and i do lots of things in the name of evil. :D
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: BlackDove on October 16, 2006, 01:52:35 am
Yeah Nuke, but mastrubating doesn't count.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Mefustae on October 16, 2006, 03:47:05 am
Charming.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: BlackDove on October 16, 2006, 04:10:44 am
My friend, I have never been otherwise.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Nuke on October 16, 2006, 06:31:07 am
no, you cant watch!
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: BlackDove on October 16, 2006, 06:34:18 am
Damn. My plans are foiled.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: Mefustae on October 16, 2006, 06:36:23 am
My friend, I have never been otherwise.
Excellent retort. I tip my hat to you, good fellow.
Title: Re: Bush and the Religious Right: An Abusive Relationship
Post by: KappaWing on October 16, 2006, 02:57:37 pm
CoS does nothing in the name of evil....  :blah: