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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on October 19, 2006, 08:03:22 am
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Finally, a somewhat standards-compliant version of IE for the masses. May adoption come quickly!
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ORly?
OK, i believe ya :lol: SO is 7 already........4 seems like so long ago :)
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why would i ditch a perfectly good install of firefox for that crap? :D
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You wouldn't. Nor will I :) It's gonna be good for web designers though, as they can hopefully save some time not having to fix perfectly good pages to work with a severely flawed but far too popular browser.
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IE's reaches go beyond what some people might think... the (flawed) IE engine is what is behind Outlook and Outlook Express, for example. Most desktop RSS aggregators use it, as do most internet-enabled mini-apps (like Answers.com's utility, Google Desktop's "Add Gadget", etc).
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IE's reaches go beyond what some people might think... the (flawed) IE engine is what is behind Outlook and Outlook Express, for example. Most desktop RSS aggregators use it, as do most internet-enabled mini-apps (like Answers.com's utility, Google Desktop's "Add Gadget", etc).
And all this from someone who has Get Firefox in his Sig! :lol:
High priase indeed. :drevil:
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You wouldn't. Nor will I :) It's gonna be good for web designers though, as they can hopefully save some time not having to fix perfectly good pages to work with a severely flawed but far too popular browser.
Not completely true. IE6 is and will still be used for a long time I think. We will still be forced to make tons of stuff to make the web site designs work with IE6. That said, IE7 is not that standards compliant - it still have tons of CSS flaws (if nothing has changed since Beta versions). Try it in Acid2, it's still a disaster (but, like I said in another thread, it's not the only factor). I've chekced HLP with IE7, there's a glitch in the header lol!
I find IE7's design odd - placing the "File Edit View" toolbar bar below the URL toolbar? Other stuff like that... I must say tho, its RSS feed reader is nice.
For IE6 users, IE7 is sure something great. But for FF/Opera or whatever browser users, it's far from being the browser or the century. But for standards-compliant stuff, I guess we'll have to wait and see what web devs thinks of it when doing web sites.
Yes, IE7 is better, but IE6 is a scar that will stay long if people don't switch to IE7 or Vista fast.
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You wouldn't. Nor will I :) It's gonna be good for web designers though, as they can hopefully save some time not having to fix perfectly good pages to work with a severely flawed but far too popular browser.
Not completely true. IE6 is and will still be used for a long time I think. We will still be forced to make tons of stuff to make the web site designs work with IE6. That said, IE7 is not that standards compliant - MS said themselves if I remember right, no CSS2 support (or nearly none, I'll have to find back the article). Try it in Acid2, it's still a disaster (but, like I said in another thread, it's not the only factor). I've chekced HLP with IE7, there's a glitch in the header lol!
I find IE7's design odd - placing the "File Edit View" toolbar bar below the URL toolbar? Other stuff like that... I must say tho, its RSS feed reader is nice.
For IE6 users, IE7 is sure something great. But for FF/Opera or whatever browser users, it's far from being the browser or the century. But for standards-compliant stuff, I guess we'll have to wait and see what web devs thinks of it when doing web sites.
Yes, IE7 is better, but IE6 is a scar that will stay long if people don't switch to IE7 or Vista fast.
That's exactly what I mean. IE6 < IE7 < Firefox/Opera/Safari. And I'm a web developer myself, which is why I'm happy about IE7. I'm not gonna use it. But I'll enjoy people using it instead of IE6, that's for sure.
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is there a full distrobution for ie7?
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eh, could care less...MS's EULA probably wants your first born just for the privlage of concieving the notion of the possibility of perhaps considering the idea of downloading IE7...
I'll stick with the fox....
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Countdown till first major security hole found: 10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...
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Boom!
http://secunia.com/advisories/22477/
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IE7 came with Vista RC1, Methinks. I used it for long enough to DL Firefox. I liked what I saw, but I still wont use it. But Im loving Vista Ultimate 64.
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I'll install it, doesn't mean I'm going to use it though.
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ALL HAIL OPERA!
Despite all its strange quirks.
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I'll stick with Opera.... fastest browser on my system (and believe me I need the fastest things possible LOL).
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/me is very happy about the release of IE7.
I'd never use it myself, but my job involves developing .NET web apps on IE. We've had some bizarre problems with hosted controls, and MS has done bugger-all towards patching the problem on IE6. Today I'll be checking IE7 to see if it has the same flaw.
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Good to hear that the full version is out. The beta I'm having works really smoothly aswell but a full is allways full.
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If I can have firefox installed, I can have IE7 too. I'll still use opera for my daily browsing needs. It's gonna come as a critical update soon enough anyhow.
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i personally love IE7. its pretty simple to use. the tabs are nice too. i hate firefox and every other browser ive tried either was crap or i hated it...
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I will thank god for I.E7 when it is in widespread use as I.E5 OR 6 is currently. Until then, I will continue to plan and code for the worst case scenarios.
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That's exactly what I mean. IE6 < IE7 < Firefox/Opera/Safari. And I'm a web developer myself, which is why I'm happy about IE7. I'm not gonna use it. But I'll enjoy people using it instead of IE6, that's for sure.
But a hell of a lot of people wont use it, it is only supported on XP SP2 and above, there are waaaay too many people running on a Windows OS that is not XP or Vista and are still using 6.
For this reason, there's no way in hell I am happy about the release of IE7, because people will start trying to write web pages for it, which will break in 6, alienating too many people.
This is Microsoft's fault, if they had just let people using pre-XP use IE7, there wouldn't be a problem.
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Outside of windows 2K, anyone thats still using 9X needs to get with it.
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That's exactly what I mean. IE6 < IE7 < Firefox/Opera/Safari. And I'm a web developer myself, which is why I'm happy about IE7. I'm not gonna use it. But I'll enjoy people using it instead of IE6, that's for sure.
But a hell of a lot of people wont use it, it is only supported on XP SP2 and above, there are waaaay too many people running on a Windows OS that is not XP or Vista and are still using 6.
For this reason, there's no way in hell I am happy about the release of IE7, because people will start trying to write web pages for it, which will break in 6, alienating too many people.
This is Microsoft's fault, if they had just let people using pre-XP use IE7, there wouldn't be a problem.
yes. this is just how the car alienated people riding in carriages after horses.
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:wtf: Silence sweedish meatball.
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IE7 is a billion times better than IE6. Which is good for us web developers...finally it won't **** up every bit of CSS you throw at it. Its about bloody time.
Firefox will still be my primary web browser but at least the rest of the uneducated masses will have something decent to use finally. Microsoft only made IE7 thanks to the success of Firefox. They were talking about removing IE from Vista altogether and just do it through a generic OS application.
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What I don't understand though is why MS can't/won't release a bugfix to IE6 that addresses its rendering flaws. That would win them SO many point with web devs worldwide...
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What I don't understand though is why MS can't/won't release a bugfix to IE6 that addresses its rendering flaws. That would win them SO many point with web devs worldwide...
They want to sell Vista.
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And besides, IE6's flaws are so deeply rooted it required a rewrite to solve them for IE7.
Bugfixes don't typically involve replacing 70% of the code.
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Granted; IANAP. Still, I wish they'd do SOMEthing.