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Title: Ohh my.......
Post by: WeatherOp on November 01, 2006, 11:25:32 pm
This was alerted to me on a weather forum., and it has caused my jaw to drop to the floor.

Looking at this sat shot, you see a nicely oringinzed hurricane, nothing real special.

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4269/1kh3.jpg)

Now, look where it is at.

(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9346/2cl4.jpg)

Yes, that is the west coast of the US, with the "hurricane" in the center of the shot.

It is warm cored, so it is a tropical cyclone, how is the question, it is over water far far far colder then what should support one of these things.

It is moving towards the US as well, if it holds together, the West coast could get their first ever hurricane strike.
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Post by: redsniper on November 01, 2006, 11:32:16 pm
Whoa... :wtf:
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 01, 2006, 11:35:28 pm
Pity it's not going to hit here, a hurricane would shut down the county for a few weeks... :p
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Post by: Kosh on November 01, 2006, 11:48:49 pm
:wtf:
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Post by: asyikarea51 on November 02, 2006, 12:01:55 am
For some reason, the word "global warming" screams to me when I see those two pictures...
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Post by: WMCoolmon on November 02, 2006, 12:47:46 am
I'll tell you guys if I see anything.


Although if I do see anything, posting on HLP probably won't be my priority...
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Post by: Ulala on November 02, 2006, 01:03:16 am
If it hits Oregon, you may or may not hear from me for awhile.
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Post by: Kosh on November 02, 2006, 01:06:47 am
Good thing I left that place.......
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Post by: Nuke on November 02, 2006, 01:09:42 am
For some reason, the word "global warming" screams to me when I see those two pictures...

i demand palm trees, then them seals and native chicks have a reason to loose weight :D
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Post by: Bobboau on November 02, 2006, 01:32:30 am
well obviously it's God smiting the liberal coast of debauchery.
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 02, 2006, 03:11:33 am
Tjhis is amusing to me  :nod:
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 :lol:
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Post by: vyper on November 02, 2006, 03:14:21 am
Damn, and I just put a bet on the Saints...
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Post by: Turey on November 02, 2006, 06:09:15 pm
FINALLY, we get a disaster that's not a fire or an earthquake!
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Post by: Nuclear1 on November 02, 2006, 06:11:11 pm
FINALLY, we get a disaster that's not a fire or an earthquake!

Well, earthquake and hurricane season is over, but it looks like they're a volcano heading in the direction of California.

Seriously though, this thing looks nasty.  Hope it misses, but good luck to all you folks on the West Coast just in case.
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Post by: achtung on November 02, 2006, 06:45:37 pm
 :wtf:

lol, weather
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Post by: Herra Tohtori on November 02, 2006, 07:50:08 pm
Firstly, it seems to me it is degrading pretty fast, both in terms of temperature and cloud density/structural integrity, as you can find out from here (http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeswestpacusir.html).

Secondly, having a warm spot at some point doesn't necessarily mean that a depression is fed by energy released from warm surface water via condensation, as happens in true tropical cyclones. Most storms have warmer areas and cooler areas... To me that weather system looks more like subtropical cyclone with mediocre size and shortish life time (if I'm interpreting the infra-red pictures correctly). Or based on its tear-shaped form during practically its whole existence it's also possible that it's actually a minuscule extratropical cyclone.

Thirdly, actual tropical cyclones on those latitudes are rare, but not unheard of, as you will find out from our friend Wikipedia and especially this excellent picture, which shows the tracks of every recorded tropical cyclone. Obviously you won't find out much from where there have been a lot of cyclones, it's all a bloody mess, but the rarities such as cyclones making a loop on Gulf of Alaska, or veering off to Scandinavia for example.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg/800px-Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg) (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg)

Beware, this is a thumbnail of a 5.6 MB picture at 8000x4000 resolution.


Of course I can be wrong but I wouldn't call this one a tropical storm or even a tropical depression, but obviously it will have some sort of impact on west coast of US of A. Rain and wind and ****ty weather in general probably, but I suspect it's up to anything major. Could you lik to the weather forum in question, where it was brought up? I'd like to see what arguments there are/were for this being or not being a tropical storm (or equivalent weather system)?

And if you get snow, for the love of supreme being be careful with your cars. I've seen how people react to snow and ice when it's a new thing for them to drive in such conditions... :shaking: Lock braking tires and trying to steer is not a good idea in general... as is demonstrated by this clip (http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/albumit/13996/video666774.wmv)

And talking about climate warming up, the last summer in Finland was incredibly dry and warm. I actually can't remember a really rainy day (excluding thunder related showers on some days), and it kinda freaked me a bit. It was dry in Russia, too, and we got our part of the smoke they managed to put out to skies. It sucked.

Then again, we've been having a week of rain in temperatures ranging from -1 deg Celsius to about positive two degrees Celcius, and that comes with the wind. Meh.