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Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: mikhael on December 19, 2001, 07:23:00 pm
Oh the pain...

I was just sitting here, innocently, minding my own business. Well, actually, I was sitting here working out the textures needed for a ship mod for Iwar2. Suddenly, a thought struck me and I felt the urge to ask my wife a question... I should have known this would be a mistake.

"Hey, babe? Do you think I could ever get a job doing this stuff [ie, 3d modelling] for a game company?"

Not a moment's hesitation: "No."

If you'll excuse me, I'll be over there in the corner weeping.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

(I should point out that my wife was kidding, but let me tell you: that caught me completely off gaurd!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))

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--Mik
http://www.404error.com
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Thorn on December 19, 2001, 07:26:00 pm
I feel your pain...
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: KillMeNow on December 19, 2001, 07:28:00 pm
well let see some of your models i cant remeber seeing any you posted but i might jsut have over looked them =)then we can all give our serious opinions =)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Nico on December 19, 2001, 07:28:00 pm
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women are cruel  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: mikhael on December 19, 2001, 08:04:00 pm
   
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Originally posted by KillMeNow:
well let see some of your models i cant remeber seeing any you posted but i might jsut have over looked them =)then we can all give our serious opinions =)

Actually I've not posted much of anything here. Um.... Look at these I guess. They go from oldest to newest, hitting some highlights or something:

Ancient Stuff
1.  (my first space ship) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/old/brute.jpg")
2.  (a logo I did for unit in the US Navy) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/old/cpw1.jpg")  
3.  (my second, third and fourth spaceships) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/old/wasptrio.jpg")  
4.  (squad of fighters leaving the remains of an illegal arms factory) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/disk3a.jpg")  

Recent Stuff
5.  (an armed tug) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/molly04.jpg")  
6.  (medium fighter) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/jaycy05.jpg")  
7.  (heavy torpedo bomber) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/kierra07.jpg")  
8.  (advanced interceptor) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/Misato03.jpg")  
9.  (fighter carrier) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/nate05.jpg")    
10. (system patrol vessel)  ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/roon12.jpg")  
11. (patrol in an asteroid belt) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/Misato04.jpg")  
12. (fleet repair facility and shipyard) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/raindance06.jpg")  
13. (a fast missile frigate) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/alec7.jpg")  

Very Recent Stuff
14. (a beyer's scarab beetle) ("http://404error.com/mikhael/3dart/beetle.jpg")  
15. (an alien in lightwave) ("http://404error.com/unsorted/jan04.jpg")  
16. (cheezy fighter design) ("http://404error.com/unsorted/lwship03.jpg")  
17. (a dragon I'm working on) ("http://404error.com/unsorted/drake06.jpg")  

That's mostly in order. Its a big mess, and it leaves out a lot of really, truly bad stuff.

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--Mik http://www.404error.com ("http://www.404error.com")

[This message has been edited by mikhael (edited 12-19-2001).]
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Thorn on December 19, 2001, 08:06:00 pm
No talent my *** ..
Those look great...
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: mikhael on December 19, 2001, 08:12:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Thorn:
No talent my *** ..
Those look great...

I was referring to my wife's comment. Not my actual talent. About three quarters of that is TS2 or TS3 and the most recent stuff (the dragon and the beetle and the cheezy fighter) are all Lightwave.


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--Mik
http://www.404error.com
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Thorn on December 19, 2001, 08:25:00 pm
Sorry, I'm going blind again, I thought you said that stuff was bad..  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Night Hammer on December 19, 2001, 08:28:00 pm
Are those for FS or what? I mean some of them that are models

[This message has been edited by Night Hammer (edited 12-19-2001).]
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: mikhael on December 19, 2001, 08:39:00 pm
Look at the first one Thorn; that is bad and not in the good way.

I will admit, the system patrol boat, the advanced interceptor, the shipyard, and the bomber all have special places in my heart. The escape from the arms facility is actually hanging on my wall (my wife surprised me and printed it poster size on the digital press where she worked).

Night Hammer, those are... um... for nothing. I model stuff in 3d for fun, with the hope, one day, of landing a gig with a game design company (Particle Systems and Volition pay attention.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)). I've started working on modding Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos. That armed tug listed up there was my first ship (it still needs textures). I wouldn't mind giving modding Freespace a shot, but I think that most of you lot have that gig pretty well sewn up (and quite well, I might add. Venom2506 and aldo_14 come to mind immediately. I look forward to both Over The Top and Reciprocity).



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--Mik
http://www.404error.com
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Thorn on December 19, 2001, 08:58:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by mikhael:
Look at the first one Thorn; that is bad and not in the good way.



I beg to differ... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: mikhael on December 19, 2001, 09:19:00 pm
*peers at Thorn* *takes Thorn's temp*

You're running a high fever! It's affecting your brain. That first one (the Brute) causes me pain to look at.

The Wasp, Dark Wasp and Hornet are probably my favorites from the ancient history section... in fact... let me go edit again...


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--Mik
http://www.404error.com
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2001, 09:41:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
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women are cruel   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Zeronet on December 20, 2001, 01:15:00 am
They dont always say the truth too.
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: deep_eyes on December 20, 2001, 01:18:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Zeronet:
They dont always say the truth too.

TRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!



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New Project Leader of the New Dawn Resolution Project in conjuction with the Metal Siren Network and staff member of The Eden Project.

The Metal Siren Network: Freespace 2: New Dawn Resolution - The Eden Project ("http://www.angelfire.com/realm/nd_resolution/")
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Fineus on December 20, 2001, 02:24:00 am
 
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Originally posted by venom2506:
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women are cruel   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Setekh on December 20, 2001, 02:25:00 am
Dude...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif) Those are darn sweet...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/redface.gif)

You should really apply for a job at a gaming company! Where do you live?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Fineus on December 20, 2001, 02:30:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Where do you live?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Why? You want to kidnap him and suck his brarin through a straw and add it to the collective conciousness of Spire?

Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: WMCoolmon on December 20, 2001, 02:35:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Thunder:
...suck his brarin through a straw ...
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I don't think Setekh is the one who needs his "brarin"...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Setekh on December 20, 2001, 02:50:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by WMCoolmon:
I don't think Setekh is the one who needs his "brarin"...    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)!   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)!

Well, Thunder, just to see which gaming company he'd be closest to.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif),  :PS:, CDV, Relic, whatever.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

[This message has been edited by Setekh (edited 12-20-2001).]
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Fineus on December 20, 2001, 03:24:00 am
Bah, leave me alone - it's 9am and I have college in an hour. I got home at 4am after a night out wandering the hills around my house drinking with some mates... I feel like monkey and spelling isn't my priority  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: wEvil on December 20, 2001, 03:53:00 am
Theres only one way to get a job in the CG field.

2 words-

HARD

WORK

generally its almost a requirement to be a good traditional illustrator/animator, as most of the basic rules of thumb are the same.

You will have to spend a good year obsessively learning your software of choice as well.

Most universities offer decent courses, but you m ay be better advised going on a corporate-certified course as they tend to be better organised and funded.

Do some research, if ya think yer good enough, punk!

.

ok..jk.

If its a field you're really interested in, you'll find a way to get into it.

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have you ANY idea of how much trouble you're in?
assault on a police officer.
Theft of police property.
Illegal possesion of a firearm.
FIVE counts of attempted murder.
That comes to...

twenty-nine dollars and 14 cents.
cash, cheque or credit card?
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Nico on December 20, 2001, 05:30:00 am
 
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Originally posted by wEvil:
Theres only one way to get a job in the CG field.

2 words-

HARD

WORK

generally its almost a requirement to be a good traditional illustrator/animator, as most of the basic rules of thumb are the same.

You will have to spend a good year obsessively learning your software of choice as well.

Most universities offer decent courses, but you m ay be better advised going on a corporate-certified course as they tend to be better organised and funded.

Do some research, if ya think yer good enough, punk!

.

ok..jk.

If its a field you're really interested in, you'll find a way to get into it.


just like me (tho it will be only  a 6 months formation with a 6 weeks stage in an enterprise) next year. My interview for the school is the 9 january, but as i come from an art school, the guy told me I was already concidered has accepted  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: wEvil on December 20, 2001, 08:13:00 am
Venom, you anywhere near Agen?

i used to go on holiday there.
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: mikhael on December 20, 2001, 09:08:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Dude...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif) Those are darn sweet...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/redface.gif)

You should really apply for a job at a gaming company! Where do you live?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

East coast of the US right now. The company that runs Anarchy Online (and did the Longest Journey *sniff* *bliss* has a tech office up the road here. Redhat (the Linux OS vendor) is around the corner too. Its a tech region really, but not much in the way of game companies.

This will, however, change in a couple of years. My wife and I will be moving back to Adelaide, or perhaps even Sydney (but only for a little while).


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--Mik
http://www.404error.com
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Nico on December 20, 2001, 10:40:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by wEvil:
Venom, you anywhere near Agen?

i used to go on holiday there.

nope, I'm quite far actually, Agen is in the south west, my parents home in normandy, and now my flat is in south bretagne.

Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: wEvil on December 20, 2001, 11:36:00 am
Oh well...i just figured when i saw the "loire" bit.

But then after I posted i realised how big it was...anyway.

Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: KillMeNow on December 20, 2001, 07:54:00 pm
aaaaaaaarghhhhh i can only get afew to open but the ones that did look pretty cool =)  far better than anything i have produced anyway =(
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: mikhael on December 20, 2001, 08:35:00 pm
 
Quote
Originally posted by KillMeNow:
aaaaaaaarghhhhh i can only get afew to open but the ones that did look pretty cool =)  far better than anything i have produced anyway =(

Sorry about that. My webserver is hosted at three desks over from mine where I work (there are advantages to working for a hosting company. Dedicated servers rock). We were having some serious issues with our internal network today because one of the network admins put a test router on the live network. Now all the internal routers have crazy routing tables, and their arp caches are completely nuts.


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--Mik
http://www.404error.com
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: Setekh on December 23, 2001, 12:23:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by mikhael:
This will, however, change in a couple of years. My wife and I will be moving back to Adelaide, or perhaps even Sydney (but only for a little while).

Dude..! Come up to Sydney, I'll meet you around Centrepoint or something.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: You know you have no talent when...
Post by: mikhael on December 23, 2001, 12:29:00 am
 
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Dude..! Come up to Sydney, I'll meet you around Centrepoint or something.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

*heh* Next time I'm down Sydney way, I'll take you up on that.


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--Mik
http://www.404error.com
ruhkferret on ICQ/AIM