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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazan on November 15, 2006, 10:27:37 am
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http://www.alternet.org/story/44254/
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My gosh, don't listen Kazan, It's not worth it............ :shaking:
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Me thinks Kazan is worried! :lol:
You and your new wife better start having children and raising them in the Humanist Traditon before you are overrun!
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Protect your longbow..........
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LMAO! Haha, that's great. I'd love to see all the retarded inbred "soldiers of God" march out to try and conquer the world some day :p
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Did the article say anything about Inbreding?
But, seriously, these people are a minority of a minority.
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The cliche of the super christian southerner = inbreeding. :) Not sure if this is in the south tho, it just felt appropriate to say :D
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Yeah, my guess is that places this crazy are reserved for the midwest, Montana and Alaska.
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I thought that church was NYC, nbut i may have missed it.
In any case, YAY aethiests ie-me !!
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Likley western NY if anywhere. Besides who would ever want to raise 13 Children in NYC. Cost of living alone...
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But, seriously, these people are a minority of a minority.
right now they are... but they're breeding EN MASSE
and how many of these people are going onto government aid because their religion demands they breed like rabbits? i don't want my ****ing taxes for welfare going to people who WERE irresponsible, knowingly, because of their ****ing scum-sucking religion
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Are these people on welfare? Easier solution would be to get rid of welfare all together.
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Are these people on welfare?
that's what i was asking
Easier solution would be to get rid of welfare all together.
no it wouldn't.. omg that was an ignorant statement.. dude.. seriously... cornhole + shut
ever heard of opportunity cost? this is something akin to it - the costs of NOT having a welfare system far exceed the costs of running one. The only difference is you have concrete numbers for the later and the former is all indirect costs (lost productivity, increased crime, decreased health -> increased health care costs, etc)
the vast majority of welfare recipients are on it for one short (<6 month) stint in their entire life - which shows the program is doing exactly what it was meant to do.
my wife's mother was on welfare for 3 months - after her scum-sucking first husband ran off with another woman and left her pregnant with blair and caring for blair's older sister paige. She was on it once, for 3 months. That help enabled her to stablize and get a job - she has more than paid for her 3 months in taxes from having a job*. Without that helping hand acquiring a job would be next to impossible because having a house to live, and food to eat, wouldn't have been possible.
Please, know what the **** you're talking about before you make naive Libertarian idiotic comments.
TAKE A US HISTORY COURSE!
* She's in management for warehousing and product acquisition for one of the largest ski resorts in the eastern US
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If the UK dropped welfare, then the influx of external populace would drop, i can tell you that much...
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Last part was more or less a joke, Like me saying something along the lines of let them die then and decrease the surplus population. I was not being serious.
But I think the people pointing to polygamists are trying to extrapulate the same idea these people will have to fall back on welfare etc. Having 6 kids is not an issue. And actually, from a efficiency stand point, they are cheaper by the dozen.
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i didn't say they _would_ neccessarily, i said if there _were_ i would be pissed. There is a difference.
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I was refering to people commenting on the article. I am not sure if that is where your welfare concern came from necessarily, or if it was an unprovoke concern.
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i didn't get all the way throught the article, let alone to the comments - i have a strong dislike of abusers of government assistance systems because they deny people who legitimately fell onto hard times, rather then plowed head first into them knowingly, the assistance they need
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And actually, from a efficiency stand point, they are cheaper by the dozen.
Muahahah, no they're not, no kid of mine is getting hand me down crap. They'd never make it through primary school in one piece.
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And actually, from a efficiency stand point, they are cheaper by the dozen.
Muahahah, no they're not, no kid of mine is getting hand me down crap. They'd never make it through primary school in one piece.
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LMAO.......... Later humes, i'm off to le' Pub to get drunk and come home to WIFE in aloving mood.
Or fall asleep in a hedge.
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go home and fark your wife, the pub will give you ED
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And actually, from a efficiency stand point, they are cheaper by the dozen.
Muahahah, no they're not, no kid of mine is getting hand me down crap. They'd never make it through primary school in one piece.
A bigger home and vehicle are cheaper that multiple homes and multiple cars.
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go home and fark your wife, the pub will give you ED
Like that ever stopped any here before.
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The cliche of the super christian southerner = inbreeding. :) Not sure if this is in the south tho, it just felt appropriate to say :D
not the cliché, but the PINNACLE
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A bigger home and vehicle are cheaper that multiple homes and multiple cars.
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Having a huge 15 passenger van is far cheaper than 3 5 passenger cars.
Having a huge home capable of housing 15 people is cheaper than 3 homes capable of housing 5.
Yes a home for 15 people will cost far more than a single 5 person home. The same for cars, but we are talking economies of scale. However, I do not recommend having 13 Children.
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you're forgetting to factor heating bills, gas (for the shagging waggon), food bills, medical bills, loss of income of the wife since she's constantly barefoot and pregnant and too busy with a herd of children to work, etc
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Food bill, if you buy in bulk would be cheaper. Heating bills would be more dependant on where you live also heating a bigger place like that might be more efficient though.
But obviously, 13 children in the end will cost more the 3 or 4.
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Bah. Buy a small house, stack the kids on the walls for insulation, bake tasty treats using the mothers lactations. Job done.
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and all the while the seculars have at most one child per pair, and you doubt that there is a genetic component to religious nuttery?
it's ironic that the logic they are using here is basically evolutionary theory.
anyway secular society needs to find a way to have more kids, it is self destructive otherwise and will collapse in on it's self/be overrun otherwise.
and too bad "social justice" doesn't let you not support these people, eh?
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bob + nail + head
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Thing is, around 2000 years ago, you had lots of children because most of them wouldn't make it to adulthood. Even Kings used to work on the theory of 'An heir and a spare'.
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In the long run though, how much of a threat are they even if we assume a best case scenario for each one being converted?
They have almost no financial safety-net beyond things such as welfare. (family and community strained by number of children and low-income)
College is unattainable, and being home-schooled it is questionable whether or not they even have a high-school education.
The most force that they have is the vote, and possibly running for local offices. Even then, they're going to be controlled by conservative groups who view them as a vote and will undermine the social programs that they use.
"Vote with their feet?" and apply pressure on non-christian companies? Laughable. Global economy, even assuming a monolithic 0.5 billion group of these people with perfect grassroots communication it's not a real issue.
In the end, it is an unsustainable strategy and increases the risk of deviance. (i.e. kids seeing 'evil secular families' with more resources)
If anything I want this to be embraced, as it'd collapse within two generations and in the end disillusion people even more to organized religion.
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Are these people on welfare? Easier solution would be to get rid of welfare all together.
Ship them off to Compton LA, problem solved.