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Title: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: redmenace on November 30, 2006, 07:26:20 pm
I honestly don't see how the catholics in particular could have a problem with this.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/475925p-400192c.html
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: vyper on November 30, 2006, 07:35:55 pm
Erm... not too keen on this one lads.
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Nuclear1 on November 30, 2006, 07:54:48 pm
It's all a part of the vast, Communist Islamofacist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!

(http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/films/strangelove/images/cigar2.jpg)
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Flipside on November 30, 2006, 07:57:04 pm
My concern is that it assumes you know a few hours in advance that you are going to have sex. Either that or you have to take one whenever you 'hope' you are going to have sex, which basically means you'll take one almost every night. So this whole 'You don't have to take it reguarly' argument is basically a moot point.

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Post by: Turey on November 30, 2006, 08:12:35 pm
My concern is that it assumes you know a few hours in advance that you are going to have sex. Either that or you have to take one whenever you 'hope' you are going to have sex, which basically means you'll take one almost every night. So this whole 'You don't have to take it reguarly' argument is basically a moot point.

From the article:

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Were the drug to receive approval, expect monogamous couples like Jane and her husband to be a better demographic than single guys like Matt.

"Name the guy at a bar who, two hours beforehand thinks, 'This is a done deal,' and pops the Pill," he challenges.

Wisecracks Sam, a 24-year-old administrative assistant, in agreement: "When it gets to the point where I know I'm going to have sex two hours before I actually have it, I will be too old to have babies."

Sums up my objections pretty well. This will only be a good idea if every woman in the world swears that they will not get pissed off or give up on sex after taking us up to their room, then having to wait two hours while the medicine kicks in:

(man and women stumble through the door to the hotel room entwined in each other's arms)
Woman: Let's do it.
Man: Hang on. (takes pill)

(an hour passes)

Man: Hey, where are you going? The pill hasn't kicked in yet!
Woman (as she walks out the door): To find an eunuch.

EDIT: nuclear, isn't that the guy from Doctor Who?
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Nuke on November 30, 2006, 08:24:33 pm
dr strangelove! errr!

well, can the guy perform cunnilingus for 2 hours (i know i can, and have) :D
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Post by: Ulala on November 30, 2006, 08:24:51 pm
I don't think I'd agree on this one.
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Turey on November 30, 2006, 08:59:09 pm
dr strangelove! errr!

well, can the guy perform cunnilingus for 2 hours (i know i can, and have) :D

Damn it, I knew i had the sub-title right (How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb), but I apparently didn't get the title right.
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Gank on November 30, 2006, 09:10:58 pm
I honestly don't see how the catholics in particular could have a problem with this.

Its the whole concept of contraception they have a problem with, not the methods. Gotta keep the numbers up.
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Post by: Mathwiz6 on November 30, 2006, 09:16:43 pm
Be fruity and multiply...

Or something  :D
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Nuke on December 01, 2006, 02:49:16 am
more like maintain the power of the unholy roman empire of doom
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Mongoose on December 01, 2006, 03:49:44 am
Or, "We know what it's meant to be used for and use it as such."

Y'know, whatever works. ;)

At any rate, medically speaking, this seems like a total washout.  If this is really the way it's supposed to work, I can't see anyone voluntarily taking it.
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: karajorma on December 01, 2006, 04:37:17 am
It's all a part of the vast, Communist Islamofacist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!

Actually I reckon it's part of a vast feminine conspiracy to get more foreplay.

Think about it. Woman whispers to her man that she wants him, gets him to take the pill and then he realises that he has to keep her in the mood for 2 hours before he can risk do anything.
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Post by: Mongoose on December 01, 2006, 06:47:05 am
Well...um...that could lead to a rather large case of blue balls, now couldn't it?

*shudders*
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Turey on December 01, 2006, 02:18:27 pm
It's all a part of the vast, Communist Islamofacist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids!

Actually I reckon it's part of a vast feminine conspiracy to get more foreplay.

Think about it. Woman whispers to her man that she wants him, gets him to take the pill and then he realises that he has to keep her in the mood for 2 hours before he can risk do anything.

 :lol:

The only way I can see this getting used widely is if they somehow manage to get the waiting period to less than the time it takes to put on a condom. Otherwise, everyone who might be using this will just use a condom instead.
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Post by: wtf_cl0vvn on December 01, 2006, 05:06:01 pm
dr strangelove! errr!

well, can the guy perform cunnilingus for 2 hours (i know i can, and have) :D

that takes some pretty endurant tongue muscles...

idk...to me a condom would be a better idea. Mr. Rubber hasnt failed on me yet!
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 01, 2006, 05:20:43 pm
Funnily enough most people I know of are thinking of it the other way. Huge sales because a guy will take it two hours before and then he's wrong all the time. :p
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Post by: Knight Templar on December 02, 2006, 05:06:04 am
**** that ****. Real men know when to pull out.
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Post by: Janos on December 02, 2006, 05:15:57 am
i use a glass stick which i stick into my urethra
heeeeell yeaah
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: brozozo on December 02, 2006, 12:12:46 pm
**** that ****. Real men know when to pull out.

Whatever. I think it's a stupid idea.
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: vyper on December 02, 2006, 01:06:03 pm
Withdraw that comment!


.... ;7
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Post by: Unknown Target on December 02, 2006, 01:29:53 pm
I wouldn't feel comfortable using it, personally.
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: vyper on December 02, 2006, 01:32:15 pm
Neither would I because I understand how a condom, or the female pill works. I do not even begin to grasp how this works - and frankly given the complete lack of long-term study I ain't going to risk it any time soon.

Besides which, this is a double edged sword. For long term couples in a loving relationship who accept this as usable, it'll be very good: We all know sex is more fun without the welly boots on. Equally though, it may encourage unsafe sex between less well acquainted couples.
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: Drew on December 02, 2006, 01:34:59 pm
i prefer the idea of the spray on condom http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2006-12-01T134004Z_01_L30758784_RTRUKOC_0_US-GERMANY-CONDOM-1.xml&src=rss&rpc=22 (http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2006-12-01T134004Z_01_L30758784_RTRUKOC_0_US-GERMANY-CONDOM-1.xml&src=rss&rpc=22)
Title: Re: A contraceptive all people can agree on.
Post by: karajorma on December 02, 2006, 02:39:13 pm
Actually based on a conversation with Kazan it looks like the original article has got it all arse about face on how the pill actually works.

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa003&articleID=8B902651-E7F2-99DF-33DB2E49B0BFCC7A&ref=rss