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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ghost on December 11, 2006, 12:15:14 am
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I'd start an e/n thread on Something Awful, but hey, no account. What do you do when you want to hurt your own brother very, very badly? Because I do. I just tried to, but I didn't have enough room to fight and I'm nowhere near strong enough. Also there was the factor of the RCOB: red curtain of blood... as in you can't really see straight, 'cause you're so pissed. I managed one or two decent hits, but nothing he'll wake up aching about.
And why all this, you ask? Because he and his twin brother are complete and utter jackasses. They're 21, they both live at home, only one is at school, both drink to excess, both smoke, both treat women like they're less than dirt, and the one I tried to grind into dirt treats me... christ. It must be pheromones: something about him never fails to get under my skin. He ****s with me constantly... simple example, I was on the Infinity IRC room talking about their game, and I left my room to go get a drink. Mike asks if he can check his email on there. He then broadcasts "I AM GAY," etc etc etc on my name. Thanks, Mike. Love you too, you miserable waste of life. Lots of it's just stupid bull**** like that. The thing that set me off tonight was him asking me if I wanted to see Wii Sports. I respond "sure, let me put up an away message." "HURRR A GAY MESSAGE IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID" "No, cocksucker, an away message." I go out there, he's with the twin and one of their friends. "HURR YOU WANT A BEER" "No thanks." "HURRR ARE YOU GAY OR SOMETHING" Aaand it's all red from there. Jesus Christ.
What am I supposed to do, just let him continue? It's not just what he says, I get that from my friends all the time. It's how he says it. It's how he thinks himself to truly be superior. And I so dearly wish he was out of my life and out of this house.
Aaaand I think that's it. Reply if you want with your own stories, sympathies, and/or commiserations. I just really needed to let it out somewhere; nobody's awake on the east coast right now.
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Is he older or younger than you? What's your parents' opinion on this?
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I'm 17. Dad probably isn't terribly happy, and I don't know about Mom. This happened about a half hour ago. Dad had to come out to our living room. He told Mike to just leave me alone for now, and wants me to talk to Mike about it.
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*Failure to care imminent*
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*Failure to care imminent*
If you dont care don't post. If all you're going to post is stupid **** remarks like this, then simply put: Shut up.
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Well i've certainly been put in my place, so i'll flesh out what i'm trying to say:
Get over it. Sure, your brother(s) is a moron, so what? If the worst they throw at you are badly worded accusations of homosexuality, then it's not exactly the end of the world. Just settle down and tell 'em where how you feel, and they should back off somewhat. If that doesn't work, threaten to do something horrific to them while they're sleeping if they don't give you some breathing room.
Family can suck, but whinging about it isn't going to do anything, it'll probably only make things worse.
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When it comes to older brothers, a good surprise kick in the stomach can work wonders (my brother is 5 years older, which ruled out a fair fight, so I always had to resort to dirty tricks). It has to be noted, that we were no longer fighting at the age you and your brother are now, so the results may not be the same ;)
Oh and I know your feeling. My brother is the only person who knew how to push my buttons exactly the right way to send me into a blind "RAARRRGGH"-kind of rage.
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Get over it.
Yeah, I know. You're right, of course; but holy Jesus if I'm not feeling the urge to bring the pain some more.
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Well, a good cheap shot is to hold your hand up for a high five, then when he goes to return the high five, punch him in the nads with your other hand.
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I say go for the psychological or perhaps sneaky revenges. Not the violent. Revenge should not leave any trail back to you.
I've just had an annoying day dealing with recalcitrant computer hardware, so my suggestions today will be along the lines of a few grains of sand in a DVD drive, or a rubber mallet applied with care to an active hard disk. Just enough to ensure that his more expensive toys break a little more quickly, preferably just out of warranty.
There's NO WAY he can prove anything (or even suspect) unless he catches you red-handed, but small-yet-expensive annoyances can bring someone down really quickly.
Then there's the shaken beer cans, and the application of laxatives to the aforementioned beverages. There are many ways to make someone's life a little more miserable. It probably won't encourage him to leave you alone, but it will be satisfying.
Rumour is effective, too.
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Heh. I like your approach. Problem is, he uses my dad's and his twin's computer.
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Hmm. Download gay porn using his user account, and make sure it's in a place dad finds it? I mean, he did try the whole gay thing on you, it would only be fitting.
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I have no suggestions but that sort of behavior is the kind that I've endured from some friends who I no longer hang out with. Nobody deserves to be treated like that, their stuff messed with, and reputation potentially ruined or feelings hurt over that. I realize I have an unusual relationship with my family...I actually get along and like them most of the time and even when not...there are unspoken rules of engagement.
Your brother doesn't know the rules, doesn't understand the rules, and probably will never conceive of said rules. Its unfortunate and I don't know what you can do. It seems like the best solution is to put as much room between him and you as possible...perhaps make that clear to your parents too. Thats a toughie...
For 21 that does sound rather immature. Particularly if its going on all the time.
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Just point out that people who are obsessed with calling other people Gay are often in denial and ask him if theres anything the two young men who spend all their time together would like to tell you ;)
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Just come up with something nasty. :drevil:
Break the toilet seat and the bathroom door lock, then the next time he takes a poop the seat breaks and his big butt falls in and he gets stuck, then take plenty of pics and blackmail him. :p
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Thank you all for the suggestions, one and all... And believe me, I'm more than tempted, and I'll certainly file some of these away for future use... but I've got a grip on myself. Thankfully. Much as that ****er deserves getting pounded on, I still have to live with him. Best to be civil... so says Dad. And pretty much what he says goes, although I'm not opposed to hitting him again should he start right back up. Maybe I can train him to leave me alone with the threat of beatings.
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I still suggest you would register to somethingawful forums and IMMEDIATELY post this thread, maybe in a forum called FYAD
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lol fyad lol
I hate FYAD and BYOB. They're bad.
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lol fyad lol
I hate FYAD and BYOB. They're bad.
i'm a byober don't be rude
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Dang, that sucks. I have an older brother who did stuff like that a while ago. Stuff like that really sucks.
Your best bet, probably isn't to do anything in the open, just subtle things. Like taking something expensive of his, and not wrecking it, but hiding it. And if you ever see change/loose money of his, take it. Also, assuming he's the lazy type and puts his cloths on the floor, take them and hide them. If he has any appliances that use batteries, take the batteries and throw them out or something. If he has an I-pod or something with a built in battery, (assuming that you didn't hide it) turn it on to run down the battery. If he has any games/applications installed for his use on the computer, go into the file and take out a random file or something so it doesn't work anymore.
Notice how all of this stuff can be undone. If you do any major permanent damage, you eventually feel guilty, and that is usually worse than just feeling bad, in my opinion.
No offense, but all those people who said, "talk it out" or "tell them how you feel" usually are to ignorant in this situation to comment, because if someone actually had been making fun of them, they would know that doesn't work.
When they actually make fun of you, I suppose you could say something like this: "What? I'm gay? Okay. :) I never knew I was gay, but if being intelligent constitutes being gay, then I suppose your right. :nod: "
From my experience, a retort that is along the lines of "The specific reason that I don't care is because you're the person saying it." is usually good.
I hope I helped :nervous:
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All hail the Win + L code. Automatic lock-down of the computer, only those who know your password can unlock the computer.
Anyway, being an older brother, it's just humor. Don't acknowledge what he did, don't so much as look at him funny when he does it, or he WILL do it again. If you don't respond, he won't do it again. If you want to hit him, just hit him in the solar-plexus (the area right between the chest muscles and down. feel down the center of your ribcage, and where it starts to split, the soft flesh below is the solar-plexus). It'll knock the wind out of ANYBODY, guaranteed.
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find something worse than pain, emotionally scar him forever, sink to the lowest depths of cruelty, look around, and realize your genetic heritage, hear that voice in the back of your head that says "I can do better" then, do it
you know your brother and his tolerances, use that
also, baking a cake with laxative chocolate and make sure he gets to it <make sure he doesn't know it's from you, and make sure no one else gets to it, but make sure he gets to it>
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Bloody hell. Look, starting a war with family only ends up in both people getting ****ed up, and a home full of animosity. Yeah, your twin brothers are immature dicks by sounds of it, but why stoop to their level? All this stuff about 'scarring' them, humiliating them, etc, it always ends in tears - I've went through the whole 'big brother is a dick' thing (albeit sorted out well before he was 21), and it's just not the right tactic.
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I would usually stay out of this as well, but for some reason I feel like responding.
First, let me express my condolences. Having been treated in such a way myself, it is understandable that you would feel such anger. It really hurts to be treated sub-human.
But remember this: if you seek revenge (especially if you stoop to his level), your brother will only use that as justification for treating you that way. You may feel a momentary rush, but it will make the problem worse. If he is not going to be mature and considerate of you, you must be for yourself. Although he does such things without provocation, do not allow yourself to get sucked into the trap of wronging yourself by providing him with fuel for his fire, so to speak.
Your brother's life is his, and it sounds like he is wasting it. In doing so, he hurts you. But the biggest risk here is not the hurt he causes you, but the temptation you might succumb to by allowing yourself to respond to him as he responds to you, which is something you find unacceptable. When we do what we find unacceptable, we violate ourselves and it extracts a high price. We slowly become something we do not want to be.
It may be hard to see it, but underneath your brother's poor actions is pain. Certainly, it is at least partially pain that he is causing himself, and it will certainly catch up with him. There is a part of him, I am absolutely certain, that feels bad about what he does to you. So, in his mind, he has to "villainize" you to justify to himself in doing what he is doing. He will do this plenty on his own, but he will be hypervigilant to find anything you do that would act as justification.
You cannot control him. You have tried, and it sounds like the more you try, the worse he gets (as is often the case). I believe that part of your solution will be to give up trying to control him. It is amazing to me how often, when we give up trying to change and control other people, they can become less obnoxious and harmful because they feel a decreased need to assert their autonomy against us.
So, while what he does is not your fault, the mature question you need to ask yourself is, "Is there any way, even a small way, in which I am contributing to this problem?" You do not cause his abuse, to be sure, but all you can control here is yourself. Find out what you contribute, and you find out the real realm in which you have power to try to prevent it.
Outside of that realm, what you can do is set up boundaries. Fill your life with other things, and find safe places you can be. As your parents for their help in providing you with times and spaces where you will have some repreive. Find people who are supportive and positive, and spend time with them. Find things you enjoy doing, and spend time doing them. Find things that bring meaning to your life, and spend time doing them. Find things you can do and ways of being that make you feel good about the kind of person you are being, and do them.
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he wont stop you have to kill him ;)
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he wont stop you have to kill him ;)
cain and abel itt
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Bloody hell. Look, starting a war with family only ends up in both people getting ****ed up, and a home full of animosity. Yeah, your twin brothers are immature dicks by sounds of it, but why stoop to their level? All this stuff about 'scarring' them, humiliating them, etc, it always ends in tears - I've went through the whole 'big brother is a dick' thing (albeit sorted out well before he was 21), and it's just not the right tactic.
okay, I'm definitly going to say my family is different, so results may, and probably will vary
but wars are bonding experiences for us
we're messed up folk, but, don't just assume that bringing ut the big guns is going to cause bad
edit: also making someone capable of thinking quickly and being able to defend themself emotionally is a valuable skill, the parry riposte of emotion is an incredibly valuable skill and WILL be used at some point in each of our lives, allowing oneself to be disarmed by an unexpected attack from an unexpected sector is not an acceptable means by which to fail in my opinion
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Be at the dinner table..
"U know (name), I've thought a lot about your behavior lately and have come up with a theory so hear me out.
You're a classic closet gay, but won't consciously realize this until your in your 30's and just sucked your first C**K."
"Unfortunately when that happens you will either A.) Kill yourself out of depression, or B.) Become a total flamer."
"Like I said it's just a theory, I'm not a professional or anything so you might want to think about some psychological counciling about gender identity issues. Oh and it might be a good idea to bring your boy--I mean friend with you."
"Can you pass the (name food item across table) please?.."
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Bloody hell. Look, starting a war with family only ends up in both people getting ****ed up, and a home full of animosity. Yeah, your twin brothers are immature dicks by sounds of it, but why stoop to their level? All this stuff about 'scarring' them, humiliating them, etc, it always ends in tears - I've went through the whole 'big brother is a dick' thing (albeit sorted out well before he was 21), and it's just not the right tactic.
okay, I'm definitly going to say my family is different, so results may, and probably will vary
but wars are bonding experiences for us
we're messed up folk, but, don't just assume that bringing ut the big guns is going to cause bad
edit: also making someone capable of thinking quickly and being able to defend themself emotionally is a valuable skill, the parry riposte of emotion is an incredibly valuable skill and WILL be used at some point in each of our lives, allowing oneself to be disarmed by an unexpected attack from an unexpected sector is not an acceptable means by which to fail in my opinion
There's a huge difference between defending yourself from the odd snipe and turning your familial life into an all-out war, in my opinion.
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Crazy glue, duct tape, small animals, so many uses...
soo very many creative uses....
Err, I'm sorry.
You were ranting about something? <_<
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Crazy glue, duct tape, small animals, so many uses...
soo very many creative uses....
Err, I'm sorry.
You were ranting about something? <_<
That's enough about your sex life
You glued ferret-raping selotape fetishist, you.
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What's wrong with being gay anyway. I would be hip and trendy if I were gay.
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What's wrong with being gay anyway. I would be hip and trendy if I were gay.
You'd have ****-hot home furnishings, too.
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He could use his brother's homophobia as a way to intimidate him. Maybe reply something like "That's right ducky, so you'd better sleep on your back."?
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He could use his brother's homophobia as a way to intimidate him. Maybe reply something like "That's right ducky, so you'd better sleep on your back."?
:lol:
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Your brother is a ****ing asshole.
I can't believe your parents let a 21 year old unemployed waste case live at home. That's the root of your problem and there's really nothing you can do but move out. Too bad you have to wait another year.
Letting him know he's getting on your nerves only makes it worse. There's probably a way to get him thrown in jail, but then your dad will have to bail the loser out. One way that comes to mind is to wait till he's been drinking and he drives somewhere, then report the car stolen. Oops.
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Stolen by out-of-town arms dealers, yes...