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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => FS2 Open Coding - The Source Code Project (SCP) => Topic started by: Ares III on December 12, 2006, 05:47:39 pm
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Recently I have been experimenting with using the mouse for flying the ships as my joystick has recently broken down.
I have only one complaint: even at maximum sensitivity the mouse makes the Perseus look like the Ares in terms of maneuverability.
Is there any way of further increasing sensitivity in-game or through the launcher?
It appears that FS2 has mouse sensitivity settings completely separate from that of windows, so even jacking up the sensitivity outside the game doesn't help.
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Is there any way of further increasing sensitivity in-game or through the launcher?
/me also wants the max mouse sensitivity bumped.
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Keyboard flying FTW.
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I have spent most of my career keyboard flying, but after experiencing the precision aiming available to joysticks, I couldn't go back.
EDIT: disambiguation: freespace career, just in case anyone is confused.
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I agree, turn up mouse sensitivity.
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Keyboard flying FTW.
Some of us don't have numpads.
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You guys do know you can adjust the mouse sensitivity in the Options screen, right? You're not just being more stupid than usual?
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I case I was not clear enough before:
I have the mouse sensitivity cranked up to the maximum setting both outside freespace and in the fs2 options, and yet the Perseus handles like a potato.
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I case I was not clear enough before:
I have the mouse sensitivity cranked up to the maximum setting both outside freespace and in the fs2 options, and yet the Perseus handles like a potato.
It's fine for me when I use the mouse. And I'm used to a joystick, too. Maybe it's your mouse, and not the game?
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I case I was not clear enough before:
Oh crapf. That's what I get for not reading closely and jumping to conclusions. Mea culpa. :(
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I case I was not clear enough before:
I have the mouse sensitivity cranked up to the maximum setting both outside freespace and in the fs2 options, and yet the Perseus handles like a potato.
It's fine for me when I use the mouse. And I'm used to a joystick, too. Maybe it's your mouse, and not the game?
It's definitely my mouse (The IBM ThinkPad "nipple"), but that isn't the problem. I WANT to use this mouse. It's built in. Having a wider range of sensitivity would be very helpful.
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Many people have indicated that the in-game mouse sensitivity slider isn't much use on the OS X builds. And it does leave something to be desired. Plans are already in the works to fix that though, but not until the new pilot file code.
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I case I was not clear enough before:
Oh crapf. That's what I get for not reading closely and jumping to conclusions. Mea culpa. :(
:ha:
now who's being more stupid than usual?
:ha:
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Keyboard flying FTW.
Some of us don't have numpads.
You do have cursor keys though!!???
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:ha:
now who's being more stupid than usual?
:ha:
I forgot to take into account the inherent stupidity of Mac users. :p
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freespace isnt an fps, there are actually physics considerations to take into account. you can move your mouse as much as you want and your ship will only turn at its max rate. a wing commander style control would work better and iirc, its planned.
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eew no. please make that optional.
i have a nice logitech mx512, so i can jack my sensitivity, but it didnt used to be so easy, even with it on max, so maybe adjusting the slider's range for a higher max sensitivity would be nice.
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You do have cursor keys though!!???
Those are for Shields.
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freespace isnt an fps, there are actually physics considerations to take into account. you can move your mouse as much as you want and your ship will only turn at its max rate.
The problem is the fact that it isn't turning at its max rate. The fact is it turns at a maximum of about half its rate, which doesn't help at all, especially when you're piloting a normally maneuverable ship and find yourself suddenly unable to turn fast enough to aim at Ursas.
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You do have cursor keys though!!???
Those are for Shields.
Glad to see I'm not the only one =)
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Strange. I've noticed that every ship feels more maneuverable (and certainly more accurate) to fly with a mouse compared to joystick. As far as the mouse pad goes on, that is.
What are your desktop (Windows) mouse cursor movement/acceleration settings? I'm not sure but I think they might have some kind of an effect on FS2 also. EDIT: I checked - no effect, but I can do 360 degree turn on my 19x21 cm mouse mat seamlessly anyway. On Ubuntu the mouse control is even more sensitive. My mouse is a Microsoft optical wireless mouse.
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My desktop settings are all at maximum, so I barely have to move a finger, but nonetheless, even if I fling the mouse across the desk, the ship barely moves. For some reason, the mouselook speed is constant, regardless of how quickly or slowlly you move the mouse.
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You do have cursor keys though!!???
Those are for Shields.
And besides that, flying with cursor keys is ridiculous.
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I've been using the keyboard to fly for years now and have no problem with it.
A for yaw left
S for yaw right
E pitch down
C pitch up
with targeting and communications clustered all on that half of the keyboard. Energy management goes on the Insert, Delete key section, the old fashioned 3 by 3 style that is. If I play on that reordered cramped, elongated delete key style, 789, 456 gets remapped to energy management on the numpad. All other essential functions are mapped directly to mouse buttons.
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Get a Logitech Gaming mouse, or some other mouse with sensitivity buttons.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=10121
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2142,CONTENTID=10715
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MMM, one of those is on my wish list now.
But, in the meantime, 'twould be nice to have this fixed in software rather than a $50 piece of hardware.
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But, in the meantime, 'twould be nice to have this fixed in software rather than a $50 piece of hardware.
Agreed.
Also, I've tried that mouse out before, and it's tiny, has horribly placed buttons, and is ludicrously uncomfortable to use.
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I bought a super duper mouse thinking it would increase the turning speed of the ships as well. It didn't do squat. I could turn it up to max, and if I even nudged it on the desktop, the cursor was out of sight. But it had no effect on the turning speed in-game whatsoever, so I returned it.
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I'm a newbie to this forum (But I've already played the whole prologue, and I love it!), and not sure if this actually belongs here, but I'll post it here anyway...
Right now flying by mouse works like this:
If I push the mouse a bit to the right, the ships nose turns slightly to the right and stops there.
What I want is that the ship turns slowly to the right until I push the mouse back to the left. the further the mouse is off-center the faster the ship turns.
Most games with this method of mouse control show a second crosshair, which moves with the mouse, to indicate the direction you steer.
Am I just too stupid to find the switch for this, or is it not (yet?) implemented?
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:welcome:
Sorry, this method of controlling flight with the mouse isn't implemented. One of our coders was playing with this feature at one point, but I don't know what became of it. We don't have plans to implement it in the foreseeable future.
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At least it was not because I'm too stupid :)
Well, I've been thinking about buying a joystick, so perhaps this is the time...
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You might try _disabling_ mouse acceleration and just having high sensitivity in the windows options, not sure but that seems like something that could affect it. Also, I'm not even sure it reads the mouse using those settings. I've tried running Halo 2 on my current setup, and for some reason, in game on this PC, the mouse is almost completely unresponsive even at high sensitivities in game, when my mouse is flying all over my desktop outside of the game. Sometimes these things just happen and they can be very difficult to troubleshoot.