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Title: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: thegreenmonk on January 04, 2007, 02:28:28 pm
Random question, what do people think of the Edge of Chaos flight model and engine.  I would have though it would have been subjected to alot of modding and adaption by now. however, nothing has happened to it.  I have written on the (almost dead) Iwar forums as well and as of yet got no answer. 
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: gevatter Lars on January 04, 2007, 03:53:03 pm
If you mean the Iwar2 engine I think I remember a quite nice B5 mod for it...but I haven't heard anything about the game for ages.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Unknown Target on January 04, 2007, 04:16:54 pm
There used to be an IWar2 section here...but it died off like the rest of the game's community. This should be in Gaming, though :)
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Tyrian on January 04, 2007, 06:53:19 pm
Could you post the link to the IWar2 community?  Even if it is almost dead, I would like to see some of the things they have done.  I still fiddle with it from time to time.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Sarafan on January 04, 2007, 06:58:27 pm
I think its a really good engine, if an equivalent of the SCP happened to it, it could turn out to be something incredible, sometime ago I made a thread about a FS mod for I-war 2, its around General Freespace, it would have been cool if it ever happened, the game would allow much more freedom, you could explore different system, etc.

The only thing I've ever saw done for I-war 2 was that Torn Stars mod but thats it.

The flight model is good too, more realistic, flying a Perseus like that really would be something. :yes:

Could you post the link to the IWar2 community?  Even if it is almost dead, I would like to see some of the things they have done.  I still fiddle with it from time to time.

http://www.i-war2.com/

It's as good as dead unfortunately.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Davros on January 04, 2007, 09:19:52 pm
a couple of links

http://www.torn-stars.com/

http://www.i-war2.com/
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: phreak on January 05, 2007, 12:45:04 am
official forums: http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=137

The problem with modding IW2 was that scripting missions required you to learn a java/c# like language.    Scripting a mission was like trying to FRED in notepad.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: thegreenmonk on January 05, 2007, 05:43:20 am
its a pitty that.  it would have made for a good experiance.  Im gonna dig up some of my mates to see if they can do anything with it - but were all students (and very lazy) so dont expect much lol :)

I dont suppose anyone has the old iwar threads still?  or are they lost in the various moves this site has done.

Cheers
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: karajorma on January 06, 2007, 01:25:57 am
Hmmmmm. I saw the words Chaos Engine and I was all ready for some steampunk. Most disappointed :)
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: thegreenmonk on January 06, 2007, 02:54:23 pm
lol - sorry to get your hopes up there :D

We've had a look at the engine (im not a programmer, i just draw pretty pictures) and we figure if we're gonna attempt anything with it it'll be in summer. We still have to figure exactly wat to do though :D

I cant do anything at the moment cos of uni, but ill try to drum up interest if i can

IS ANYONE OUT THERE (WHO KNOWS WAT THERE DOING) INTERESTED IN IWAR2 mods?????????????
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Thor on January 06, 2007, 08:38:43 pm
i thought it was a great looking engine, but i hated the physics model, too real for me.  i prefer my games to be more arcady, so i always would end up flying past a combat situation and then getting wasted turning my self around...too much work imho. so to that end i'd love to see it with a more FS like engine, cause i always found the story interesting but could never get very far with out flying into an asteroid.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Davros on January 07, 2007, 02:41:32 am
you should of enabled assisted flight then thor
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: phreak on January 07, 2007, 01:56:27 pm
here is the link to the scripting sdk: http://www.i-war2.com/downloads/IW2-EOC_Pog_Scripting_SDK.exe
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: thegreenmonk on January 07, 2007, 02:28:25 pm
hehe - assisted flights for N00bs  :pimp:

the great thing about it was the realism, but there was a way to scale it bk I believe.  Lol, shooting past a combat zone, all guns blasing and firing a whole bank of missles as you pass......thats style :P

Cheers for the linkage too:)
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: phatosealpha on January 07, 2007, 05:51:03 pm
Eh, flight assist was worse then useless.  Just can't go into Iwar expecting to fly like you would in freespace, Xwing or other spaceplane games.

Once you get it down though - well, beam flybys on carriers are too much fun.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Nuke on January 07, 2007, 07:33:42 pm
you know i kill for a modernized version of the frontier engine.

and by modernized i dont mean one of those bastardized reverse-engineered engines that are floating around, i mean something on the scale of the scp.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Thor on January 07, 2007, 08:05:42 pm
Eh, flight assist was worse then useless.  Just can't go into Iwar expecting to fly like you would in freespace, Xwing or other spaceplane games.

Once you get it down though - well, beam flybys on carriers are too much fun.

I'll watch the action as i sail right on by...
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: phatosealpha on January 07, 2007, 08:42:49 pm
Yeah, that's actually the whole idea.  Keep moving, sail on by, while at the same time letting your cutting beams rip through it's hull. 
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Sarafan on January 08, 2007, 11:17:14 am
Yeah, that's actually the whole idea.  Keep moving, sail on by, while at the same time letting your cutting beams rip through it's hull. 

I lost count on how many cruises I took down like that. :D :yes: Really, its the best way too take them down.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Davros on January 08, 2007, 11:21:46 pm
ps: One of the best game into's ever..................

Independance War
http://media.putfile.com/IWar
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Prophet on January 09, 2007, 12:17:07 am
Yeah, I-war intro is like a mini-movie. Truly magnificent work. As well as the whole game.
Title: Re: Edge of chaos engine (i dont know if this is the right section for this)
Post by: Unknown Target on January 09, 2007, 09:14:09 am
Wow, that intro is kickass. I loved the Iwar2 one as well (or rather, the one where Cal escapes from jail).