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Community Projects => The FreeSpace Upgrade Project => Topic started by: fsi.scsi on January 15, 2007, 12:15:49 am

Title: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: fsi.scsi on January 15, 2007, 12:15:49 am
so... I installed fs2_open on one of the school PCs a while back with some old mediavps (can't remember if they were 3.6.7 or 3.6.6 or what), and a few days ago I upgraded the mediavps to 3.6.8. 

I opened up fs2_open, and went to the techroom to see the shiny new models, and what did i actually see? Nothing! I could see the colored glow lights all right, but no actual models showed except for the Hercules and HMII.  The odd thing is that the game functioned perfectly with the old mediavps. 

The PC is a P4 1.8 GHz with 512 MB ram and a 32 MB nVidia Riva TNT2 graphics card.  Older but still performs better than my laptop  :mad:
The options I've enabled are specular, envmaps, glow, jpgtga.  I've fiddled around with all of them and nothing seems to work.  The VP files are intact though and all the models are there, just not showing in either the lab, techroom, or ingame.

Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: Mars on January 15, 2007, 12:50:25 am
Did you upgrade fs_open itself? Or just the VPs

Also... what flags are you using for startup?
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: Turey on January 15, 2007, 12:58:08 am
did you select mediavps as your mod? Are you using 3.6.9 Final Executables?

If you want to make sure that you've got everything up-to-date, download the Installer in my sig, run the Updater, select your FreeSpace2 directory, then hit "All Sections" and "Yes to all", and leave it running overnight.
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: fsi.scsi on January 15, 2007, 10:57:57 am
Did you upgrade fs_open itself? Or just the VPs

Also... what flags are you using for startup?

I did upgrade fs_open.  :)  It's the latest stable release 3.6.9.

Flags, as I said before, are:

Enable Specular
Enable Glowmaps
Enable Environment Maps
Enable JPG/TGA Textures
Enable Mipmapping

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did you select mediavps as your mod? Are you using 3.6.9 Final Executables?

If you want to make sure that you've got everything up-to-date, download the Installer in my sig, run the Updater, select your FreeSpace2 directory, then hit "All Sections" and "Yes to all", and leave it running overnight.

I'm using 3.6.9 final; the thing is, everything functions perfectly on my laptop with the exact same settings and files, just not on this PC. 
I got the files from your installer  :)


Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: Wanderer on January 15, 2007, 11:25:17 am
Why do i have a nagging feeling that 32 MB nVidia Riva TNT2 & HTL is your problem...
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: fsi.scsi on January 15, 2007, 11:37:22 am
If that were the problem, then the game wouldn't even function on my machine, which for the longest while had only 32 MB of video memory.  yet all the models showed up perfectly on it.  Plus, my problem is that certain textures are not showing - for example, the Ulysses is invisible except for colored flashing lights.  The high-poly Hercules and HMII display perfectly with no lag though. 

Even with a 32 MB Riva TNT2 my school PC still outperforms my laptop  :wtf:
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: Turey on January 15, 2007, 11:41:51 am
try hitting F3 at the main hall. If you can see LOD1 or LOD2 of a ship, but not LOD0, then it's probably your graphics card.
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: fsi.scsi on January 15, 2007, 11:47:21 am
try hitting F3 at the main hall. If you can see LOD1 or LOD2 of a ship, but not LOD0, then it's probably your graphics card.

f3's the 'lab', right?  I've done that already, and none of the LODs are showing.
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: karajorma on January 15, 2007, 01:27:04 pm
To be honest I think it is the problem and even if it isn't you'll have others. The TNT 2 doesn't support HTL and that's a requirement of FS2_Open.
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: fsi.scsi on January 15, 2007, 01:34:10 pm
Is there any way short of reverting to old mediavps to make models visible?
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: Turey on January 15, 2007, 01:43:33 pm
Is there any way short of reverting to old mediavps to make models visible?

Don't use mediavps. Any of the HTL models shouldn't work on your machine.
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: jakeslogan on January 21, 2007, 05:22:02 am
Arghhh, I've encountered the same problem, too. :mad:, and I've discovered that I can see the ships which I couldn't see in mediavp with MODVIW32, and ships I could see while playing freespace2 using mediavp like Herc, etc,... didn't appear in MODVIW32. By the way, any1 know how to extract the *.vp files???
Title: Re: none of the models showing with mediavp 3.6.8
Post by: Turey on January 21, 2007, 09:54:09 am
VPView. Comes with my Installer, or get it off of Kara' FAQ.