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Title: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 15, 2007, 04:16:39 am
This may be a stupid question, and it probably is....

But what does D.H stand for in Artemis D.H ?

This is one of my favourite bombers. It has the maneuverability of a fighter, and the payload of a light bomber...guess that makes it a light bomber eh ?  ;7

If i need something more heavier, i use Boanerges. The only downside to both these bombers is their lacking of main guns.

Oh well, they dont really need em anyway. (except D.H , cause it doubles as a dogfighter)
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: DarkShadow- on January 15, 2007, 07:03:19 am
Darker Hull? Hey, at least it would fit with its appearance.  :p
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Wobble73 on January 15, 2007, 09:25:01 am
I was thinking more that it stood for "Deaths Head"  :blah:
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Herra Tohtori on January 15, 2007, 09:48:41 am
Daring Hoax would be my bet.

Whoever manufactured the mentioned ship had some guts. They took battle-blackened Artemii bombers, installed the tail sections upside down and painted them black, red and with skulls on top.

Then they sold them to GTVA as "upgraded Artemis bombers". Knowing Command's skills in craft evaluation (ie. sad case of Boanerges supposedly being a viable tactical unit), they probably swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

Oh well. At least it has better camo against the darkness of space... :nervous:
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Dysko on January 15, 2007, 09:59:24 am
Some custom campaigns suggested that ships with "D.H." in the name are ships refitted for use by SOC (much like the "M" prefix in US aircrafts' mission symbol).
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: karajorma on January 15, 2007, 10:00:34 am
:lol: @HT

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. :D
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: ShivanSpS on January 15, 2007, 10:16:23 am
unfortunaly, there is not any Developer notes on Artemis D.H in ships.tbl, but the description is this:

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The GTB Artemis D.H. is an experimental variant of the standard Artemis class. The most notable change is that the Artemis's factory-issued Han-Ronald engines have been replaced by the same Nankam NA-27f powerplant now found in the GTF Ares fightercraft. The D.H. variant is faster and more maneuverable than the standard Artemis bomber, at no cost to armor or armament. During the OpEval period, Artemis D.H. bombers are being deployed in only select squadrons in different theatres of the war. If the evaluation trials go well, wider deployment of the Artemis D.H. class is expected.

Also there is a diference betren the weapons that may use....

Artemis
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$Allowed PBanks:        ( "Subach HL-7" "Prometheus S" "Prometheus R" "Lamprey" "Circe" "Maxim")
$Allowed Dogfight PBanks:        ( "Subach HL-D" "Prometheus D" "Circe" "MorningStar D" "Lamprey" )
$Default PBanks:        ( "Subach HL-7" )
$Allowed SBanks:        ( "Rockeye" "Hornet" "Tornado" "Trebuchet" "Stiletto II" "Piranha" "Cyclops"  "cyclops#short"  "Hornet#Weak" "EMP Adv." "Infyrno" )
$Allowed Dogfight SBanks:        ( "Rockeye D" "Hornet D" "Tornado" "Piranha" "Infyrno D" )
$Default SBanks:        ( "Hornet" "Cyclops#short" "Cyclops#short" )

Artemis D.H.
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$Allowed PBanks:        ( "Subach HL-7" "Prometheus S" "Prometheus R" "Lamprey" "Circe" "Maxim")
$Allowed Dogfight PBanks:        ( "Subach HL-7" "Prometheus S" "Prometheus R" "Lamprey" "Circe" "Maxim")
$Default PBanks:        ( "Subach HL-7" )
$Allowed SBanks:        ( "Rockeye" "Hornet" "Tornado" "Trebuchet" "Stiletto II" "Piranha" "Cyclops"  "Cyclops#short"  "Hornet#Weak" "EMP Adv." "Infyrno" )
$Allowed Dogfight SBanks:        ( "Rockeye" "Hornet" "Tornado" "Trebuchet" "Stiletto II" "Piranha" "Cyclops"  "Cyclops#short"  "Hornet#Weak" "EMP Adv." "Infyrno" )
$Default SBanks:        ( "Hornet" "Cyclops#short" "Cyclops#short" )
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Centrixo on January 15, 2007, 10:29:42 am
more weapon compatibility.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Dysko on January 15, 2007, 10:41:41 am
But only in multi.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Goober5000 on January 15, 2007, 11:20:51 am
Darker Hull? Hey, at least it would fit with its appearance.  :p
:lol: You're probably right, at least as far as the :v: development team is concerned. :D
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 16, 2007, 01:16:39 am
The Artemis D.H is , by far, the best bomber in the game. It has the armor to go in and drops its payload, the speed and maneuverability to get out of there and dodge flak and beam and fighters, and to even hold its own in dogfights.

Also, its pretty sexy too  :cool:
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Herra Tohtori on January 16, 2007, 01:30:49 am
But the standard Artemis is just the same as long as playability is concerned. The only difference in single player is inverted tail and you getr a skull painted on the roof. I personally like standard Artemis paintjob way more than the D.H's... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Trivial Psychic on January 16, 2007, 01:35:40 am
Actually, the standard Artemis is an "X" tail, while the D.H. has an inverted "Y".
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Herra Tohtori on January 16, 2007, 01:37:45 am
Yeah, I recalled wrong. Must have just been remembering two spikes up on standard and only one on D.H, hence the false memory.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: karajorma on January 16, 2007, 04:12:03 am
I always liked the comment I heard once that the D.H was a reference to the skull and stood for Death's Head :)
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Wobble73 on January 16, 2007, 04:25:26 am
I was thinking more that it stood for "Deaths Head"  :blah:

I always liked the comment I heard once that the D.H was a reference to the skull and stood for Death's Head :)

So we are in agreement Kara??   :D  :yes:
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: karajorma on January 16, 2007, 04:40:34 pm
I heard that years ago. :) But it seems reasonable to me :)
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 16, 2007, 05:03:02 pm
DH stands for DW Hunter :P
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Taristin on January 16, 2007, 05:20:40 pm
Dick Head?
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Tamlin on January 16, 2007, 05:24:45 pm
Hey a question I can answer,[History] it is Death's Head simply; back in WW2,  the SS or Death's Head troops were in charge of "Special Operations" other than all of their other sick and genocidal duties.To put it bluntly they were the "Elite" and that would make it fit to the SOC doctrine and Specialized missions.Speaking of which are there any camps that are solely SOC out there or Under Development? I find the plot scemes fun kind of like Sol:A history.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Centrixo on January 16, 2007, 05:30:36 pm
The Waffen-Schutzstaffel were military, your in the wrong place :P, you want SOC type try Sicherheitsdienst
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Dark Hunter on January 16, 2007, 06:00:34 pm
DH stands for DW Hunter :P

No way, no way. It would be DWH in that case.

DH... Dark Hunter... I see a pattern.  :D
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Tamlin on January 16, 2007, 06:06:59 pm
OK but,Weather or not ,Your a pilot for whoever,its a militant end of the intelligence,your an operative not a society cop separate but not the SD and surly not the Gestapo,your a Storm\Shock Troop Get in Destory and get the **ck out hense the improved fire power and better ships!  Thanks you've given me an idea. No it's not nazi's in space,we've got EA,NTF and Bosch for that. Plus it's the Skull symbol reason any way.p.s. not all SS were Waffen,
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Centrixo on January 16, 2007, 10:49:13 pm
yeah i know, some were poltical
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 17, 2007, 12:57:45 am
IMO, the artemis fills the role of light bomber nicely. It succeeds the Zeus in every way. A wing of bombers can rip a convoy , cruiser or corvette to shreds. (Given they have maxims + cyclops, but with maxims, they'd be totally defenseless against shielded fighters).

Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Trivial Psychic on January 17, 2007, 02:48:17 am
*wishes the Artemis had the Zeus' primaries layout*
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: karajorma on January 17, 2007, 04:48:01 am
OK but,Weather or not ,Your a pilot for whoever,its a militant end of the intelligence,your an operative not a society cop separate but not the SD and surly not the Gestapo,your a Storm\Shock Troop Get in Destory and get the **ck out hense the improved fire power and better ships!  Thanks you've given me an idea. No it's not nazi's in space,we've got EA,NTF and Bosch for that. Plus it's the Skull symbol reason any way.p.s. not all SS were Waffen,

Mitchell and Webb (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsNLbK8_rBY) have totally ruined the german uniform for me. :D
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Grizzly on January 17, 2007, 06:11:05 am
actually, if you look at the stats in the ship selction screen, the artemis D.H has a higher mark for manuvrability
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: DarkShadow- on January 17, 2007, 06:36:24 am
Yep, this is called commercials. You say you improved it while you didn't really change anything.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: karajorma on January 17, 2007, 07:07:33 am
actually, if you look at the stats in the ship selction screen, the artemis D.H has a higher mark for manuvrability

The stats mean nothing. You change them and it would have no effect on gameplay.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: [DW]-Hunter on January 17, 2007, 11:29:55 am
but with maxims, they'd be totally defenseless against shielded fighters.

Not neccessarily true, I kill stuff with just plain maxims, AI can do it too. in example the ultimate AI uses ursa with tornados maxim and morning star, they are really difficult targets then.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Vasudan Commander on January 19, 2007, 01:45:36 am
but with maxims, they'd be totally defenseless against shielded fighters.

Not neccessarily true, I kill stuff with just plain maxims, AI can do it too. in example the ultimate AI uses ursa with tornados maxim and morning star, they are really difficult targets then.

That morning star....so difficult to use, even more difficult to fight against, once someone has you in their sights. Thats when you truly need to rely on a squadmate.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: NGTM-1R on January 19, 2007, 04:35:27 pm
De Havilland.

Well, that's what always sprang to mind for me.
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: FS2_playa613 on January 19, 2007, 08:17:14 pm
also different in D.H. compared to standard art: standard has 3 engine thrusters one on each pod and 1 in the tail, D.H. has only 2: one on each pod
Also anyone notice that artemis bombers max speed doesnt increase at higher ETS settings like it does on all other ships?  only thing that happens is increased burner recharge times
Title: Re: Artemis D.H ?
Post by: Snail on January 20, 2007, 05:12:51 am
The Bakha, IIRC, also does that.