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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: SSC-ADMRL on December 28, 2001, 09:49:00 am
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Why dont friendly cap ships jump when they are about to die
i noticed a few times they jumped in fs1 but not in fs2
its always teh shivan or vasudan ships to jump out of the aream when they are on the verge of destruction
i think more missions hsould be created where command uses a little more sense and saves an expensive ship from destrucion
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Vusadans are regenades and are willing to die. Plus jump drives take time to power up, what would it be like in the campaign if all the ships left before they were blown up?
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A lot of ships in FS2 were blown up before they could even think of leaving, like the Psamtik or the two 'vettes when the Ravana shows up. Big C refused to leave and this Hecate that had order to hold the first Sath until you did your job does leave (if it gets the chance)
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I think that their intrasystem subspace drives might not be recharged when the enemies come in. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Big C refused to leave
Yeah that was a pretty questionable decision by the Colossus captain.
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Why aren't they jumping out?
Cause it is not scripted!
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(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/icons/icon14.gif)
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Originally posted by TheVirtu:
Vusadans are regenades and are willing to die.
*SLAP* Snap out of it man!
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LOL why? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Head of the Beyond Campaign for FS2.
The year 2375, The Beginning, Deneb. The ship, the GTD Messana, do you know where the NTF is?
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Yeah that was a pretty questionable decision by the Colossus captain.
So was not firing the beam cannons... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Aboard The GTVA Colossus Before its death..
Captain: Well were disabled and were screwed, might as well get drunk and through in some smokes.
2 minutes later
Captain: This is some good crap.
Crew: oooooooaoeo ya!
Gunnery Control: This stuff is the best *puff* too much smoke (faints)
Command: Colossus were pulling you out!
Colossus: No way command, we'll let the bunnies live, the bunnies must live.
(cuts to Gilligan's Island)
Skipper! Theres a red and black thingy in the sky!
Whats wrong with you? Theres nothing near here.
(back to the Colossus)
Pretty red bunnies are coming to hide in our ship through those light thingys! Their screeching with joy too!
BOOM!
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Head of the Beyond Campaign for FS2.
The year 2375, The Beginning, Deneb. The ship, the GTD Messana, do you know where the NTF is?
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I don't think they ever mentioned the captain of the Colossus, did they? Probably an Admiral. It would be nice to have a fiction about him, about his ship.
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Originally posted by Alikchi:
I don't think they ever mentioned the captain of the Colossus, did they? Probably an Admiral. It would be nice to have a fiction about him, about his ship.
why? It's like for Titanic, you already know the end (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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If pilots did jump out, they would get into serious trouble when they got back to base, as you do.
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Yeah...better die than dishwasher duty (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by Black Sheep (edited 12-29-2001).]
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no im talking about capital ships
i dont think command would mind if its hull was at 20 percent and jumped out
whats better loseing ships and lives or saving a ship and lives?
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Losing the ship and lives to save many more lives...
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Losing the ship and lives to keep the salvage business up and running and to entertain all those clever enough to high-tail it outta the combat area when the Ravana's jump in.
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I figure that in the heat of battle, the ships jump systems may be damaged or destroyed. Which is how I "explain" a ship not jumping out during some of my missions.
At 12% hull, your hanging by a thread....sometimes your engines might be fine and sometimes they may look like roast beef thats been in a few hours too long.
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Originally posted by SSC-ADMRL:
no im talking about capital ships
i dont think command would mind if its hull was at 20 percent and jumped out
whats better loseing ships and lives or saving a ship and lives?
losing the ship makes pretty fireworks, nothing better to increase troups moral than a pretty firework (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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[Spock voice]
The needs of the many...outweigh...the needs of the few...
[/Spock voice]
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Originally posted by IceFire:
At 12% hull, your hanging by a thread....sometimes your engines might be fine and sometimes they may look like roast beef thats been in a few hours too long.
Heheh, that reminds me of a funny quote... 'anything'll jump if you tell it to, even a cargo container!' (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) Oh well. Ice's explanation seems to make sense. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Deimos: Lets go home, we were damaged but we lived.
Engine Control: *putter* it wont start!
Alpha 3: Who wants to get out and push?
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Head of the Beyond Campaign for FS2.
Seven years after Capella, Deneb, aboard the GTD Messana... A new race appears for the reason of the destruction of the Human and Vasudan race. Can you stop the coming of Beyond?
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hehe (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
They would probably need some kind of leverage though. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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'someone' will come here and post the nice little pic 'ram them until they give up!'
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon:
[Spock voice] The needs of the many...outweigh...the needs of the few...
[/Spock voice][/b]
Not the one I prefer. Here's the one I like:
T'Pau: Live long and prosper, Spock.
Spock: I shall do neither, for I have killed my captain and my friend.
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That's another good one (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif). I like that one, too, but I've only seen parts of that episode...I actually read it in "I Am Spock", rather than seeing it on TV.
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I find the books that Leonard Nimoy wrote strangely titled. First, he wrote "I am not Spock", then he wrote "I AM Spock" then he wrote "I'm really Scotty".
Can't he make up his mind? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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--Ra, the Sun God
[This message has been edited by Su-tehp (edited 01-26-2002).]
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i thought that jumpin into subspace puts a hell of a lot of stress on the hull so if its a 12% the stress maybe 2 great and bye bye ship!
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long war and our hatred still knows no
succour. Those who have defied us shall
feel the full wrath of Chaos..."
-Abaddon the Despoiler.
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I've thought of doing that for a couple of missions... actually, I have once. The debrief was different if your hull was under 20% or something like that, you don't get in trouble. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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It is rather silly that the GTVA insist on loosing pilots by insisting that they continue to fight when they have no shields and a hull at 2%
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Those "Get me out here Command!"'s really show how cruel the GTVA is.
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ok, first off, if you pay attention to the colossus, it's disabled, hence it cant jump. Second, i've gotten out of missions with just 2% hull before, it can be done.
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It's 'cos Command is evil and likes the pretty colours of the ships exploding.
Or they have a lot of letters begining: 'I regret to inform you...' and they've got to get rid of them somehow.
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Originally posted by LtNarol:
Second, i've gotten out of missions with just 2% hull before, it can be done.
Maybe but compare that with the number of times you`ve died and I think you`ll see what I mean. You can`t respawn in real life!