Post by: Sandwich on January 09, 2002, 06:56:00 pm
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Post by: DragonClaw on January 09, 2002, 08:47:00 pm
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when do we get this "compresion" program.
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Post by: Night Hammer on January 09, 2002, 08:52:00 pm
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw:
when do we get this "compresion" program.
10 years
Post by: WarpStar on January 09, 2002, 11:32:00 pm
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Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2002, 04:26:00 am
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw:
I was thinking about compression like taking frequent sequences in files and associating each sequence with a letter, reducing size drastically...
That's what we have nowadays. Take GIF as an example:
If you have a GIF that is nothing but a color gradient, with the colors changing from top to bottom (such as the one on the right, which is 9Kb), it will compress excellently. That's because the GIF compression takes a single line (row, not column), looks for identically colored pixels, and stores a single color entry for all of those pixels. It then moves on to the next line, and goes over that line seperately from the first one. So if you have, on each line, a single color - even though the color itself changes from line to line - the compression will be excellent.
However, if you do something as simple as rotate the gradient 90 degrees, so that each vertical column of pixels has a single color, you will see that the file size is significantly larger (The GIF on the left is 14Kb). This is because any single horizontal line does not contain the same colored pixel twice, so the GIF algorithm has to store specific color-data for each pixel, and each line. Ouch. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)------------------
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Post by: Fineus on January 10, 2002, 04:33:00 am
Post by: Styxx on January 10, 2002, 04:46:00 am
Post by: Shrike on January 10, 2002, 04:49:00 am
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2002, 05:23:00 am
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Originally posted by Styxx:
...current processing power...
There's virtually no such thing... Moore's Law is cool and all, but when you realize that every 18 months the basis for the calculation has doubled.... wow. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Post by: Styxx on January 10, 2002, 05:38:00 am
Post by: Shrike on January 10, 2002, 05:43:00 am
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Originally posted by sandwich:
There's virtually no such thing... Moore's Law is cool and all, but when you realize that every 18 months the basis for the calculation has doubled.... wow. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Except that we're reaching the limits of 'normal' semiconductor technology. I think this has been the longest period in a while where there wasn't anything new coming out yesterday, soon, and next year..... I'm sure that they're doing intensive research on more sophisticated semiconductors with new materials, architecture or entirely new types of processors, such as 'quantum computers'.
Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2002, 07:10:00 am
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Except that we're reaching the limits of 'normal' semiconductor technology. I think this has been the longest period in a while where there wasn't anything new coming out yesterday, soon, and next year..... I'm sure that they're doing intensive research on more sophisticated semiconductors with new materials, architecture or entirely new types of processors, such as 'quantum computers'.
Hehehe - lookie here ("http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s%253D1490%2526a%253D19125,00.asp"). (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Post by: Gortef on January 10, 2002, 09:48:00 am
Post by: WarpStar on January 10, 2002, 11:56:00 am
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Post by: Nico on January 10, 2002, 05:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by WarpStar:
Yea, all those laws of EM-Physics, The QC works on an entirely different level, though, eliminating conventional transistors completely. That would be insanely faster.
yeah, but it's also scie fi crap.
Post by: WarpStar on January 10, 2002, 05:24:00 pm
Post by: Martinus on January 10, 2002, 05:59:00 pm
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Not really, they've actually done some stuff like this at the University of California I think, but it's only 2-bit as of last I've heard.
Not a good idea to just post about "something you've heard". Find a link to a good source instead. This kind of stuff should be pretty interesting.
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Post by: Sandwich on January 10, 2002, 06:46:00 pm
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Not a good idea to just post about "something you've heard". Find a link to a good source instead. This kind of stuff should be pretty interesting.
Ok, I did a Google search for "quantum computer reality" and came up with this ("http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~westside/quantum-intro.html") as the first result. The web site is slow, so if you have trouble connecting just go here ("http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:4CzmvdpEDV0C:www.cs.caltech.edu/~westside/quantum-intro.html+quantum+computer+reality&hl=en") for Google's cache of the page.
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Post by: mikhael on January 10, 2002, 06:53:00 pm
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From Venom:and
yeah, but it's also scie fi crap.
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From Maeglamor:
Not a good idea to just post about "something you've heard". Find a link to a good source instead. This kind of stuff should be pretty interesting.
Sci-fi? I think not.
Shor's Algorithm is a method by which a quantum computer could, theoretically, factor arbitrarily large numbers. To factor the number 15, you need a 7 qubit quantum compter.
And as of the 19th of December, 2001, IBM reported that they had used Shor's Algorithm to do exactly that. And it only took a vial of 10^18 molecules.
A quick Google search finds lots of information about QC. Also, occasionally read Slashdot.org or ArsTechnica.com. Both of them usually list links to these sorts of stories early and often.
http://www.research.ibm.com/resources/news/20011219_quantum.shtml ("http://www.research.ibm.com/resources/news/20011219_quantum.shtml")
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Post by: Sandwich on January 11, 2002, 06:42:00 am
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Scientists Build Tiny Computer Using DNA Molecules
Israeli scientists say they have built a DNA computer so tiny that a trillion of them can fit in a test tube and perform a billion operations per second with 99.8 percent accuracy.
While such a computer has been theoretically possible for some time, the scientists, writing in last week's issue of the journal Nature, said this was the first programmable autonomous computing machine in which the input, output, software and hardware were all made of DNA molecules.
I'll try to find more extensive info about this.
EDIT: Okay, that wasn't all that hard. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Here's some more links, to full articles this time. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1668000/1668415.stm ("http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1668000/1668415.stm") http://in.news.yahoo.com/011121/107/199x5.html ("http://in.news.yahoo.com/011121/107/199x5.html") http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/661523.asp ("http://stacks.msnbc.com/news/661523.asp")
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Post by: Alikchi on January 11, 2002, 06:47:00 am