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Title: Graphical Glitch
Post by: falcon2105 on January 25, 2007, 11:00:24 pm
Hi all,
I just noticed a small problem while I was playing warzone. Around some of the lights on ships I see a small black box, and around flak bullets or w/e i see the same black boxes. I have all the alpha patches and what not and am using the 3.8.9 released a little after new years. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. 
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: Turey on January 26, 2007, 02:52:09 am
Do you have the 710 patches for the mediavps?
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: General Battuta on January 26, 2007, 04:02:30 am
I had the same problem.  Turey's right, the 710 patches will fix it.  Those are in the release thread for the newest Media VPs. 
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: falcon2105 on January 26, 2007, 12:31:53 pm
I already have 710_adveffects, 710_effects, and 710_models. Any other ideas?
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: General Battuta on January 26, 2007, 12:50:54 pm
Bwah?  Can you confirm they're in the right place? 
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: miskat on January 26, 2007, 01:18:34 pm
I had this problem as well and was able to fix it by re-downloading all the mediavps, deleting the old ones, and putting the new ones in their place.  =/
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: falcon2105 on January 26, 2007, 03:09:10 pm
Bwah?  Can you confirm they're in the right place? 

Yeah, they're in C:\Games\Freespace2\mediavps, along with all my standard vps. Anyway, I guess I'll try redownloading and see if that fixes it.
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: Turey on January 26, 2007, 04:12:21 pm
Yeah, they're in C:\Games\Freespace2\mediavps, along with all my standard vps. Anyway, I guess I'll try redownloading and see if that fixes it.

What?
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: falcon2105 on January 26, 2007, 04:51:13 pm
Sorry bout that, so I'll just tell you whats in that folder. Theres only one folder, which is named Data, then the Fs2 logo image file, a mod.ini, the 3 710 patches that I named in the other post, mv_02patch_Shield_HUD, mv_03pathNameplate, mv_core, mv_effects, mv_music, mv_models, mv_textures. I removed mv_adveffects because of the slowdown with the shockwaves. Hope that clearer.
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: ARSPR on January 26, 2007, 04:59:14 pm
Sorry bout that, so I'll just tell you whats in that folder. Theres only one folder, which is named Data, then the Fs2 logo image file, a mod.ini, the 3 710 patches that I named in the other post, mv_02patch_Shield_HUD, mv_03pathNameplate, mv_core, mv_effects, mv_music, mv_models, mv_textures. I removed mv_adveffects because of the slowdown with the shockwaves. Hope that clearer.

Are you sure you just have that? Cos it should work fine.

Run a debug build, exit, and open fs2_open.log from Freespace2\data (if in windows, do not use notepad but wordpad, you'll see why  ;)). Just after the first few lines you'll have the order in which FS2 looks in folders or vps. Check it is loading the vp patches BEFORE the rest of media vps.
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: Wanderer on January 26, 2007, 05:10:04 pm
What are mv_02patch_Shield_HUD, mv_03pathNameplate files?
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: ARSPR on January 26, 2007, 05:22:16 pm
What are mv_02patch_Shield_HUD, mv_03pathNameplate files?

They are personal fixes I email him quite time ago. 02 just sets the bakha shield ani in HUD instead of interface, and 03 has the fixed version Taylor made for the Nameplate texture. I can assure you they don't cause black boxes at all. :D

(Till now I have 9 minor and extra fixes to 3.6.8. vps).
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: falcon2105 on January 26, 2007, 05:47:42 pm
Heres the first few lines from the debug spew.

Building file index...
Searching root 'C:\games\freespace2\Warzone\'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\Warzone\Warzone.vp'
Searching root 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mp-710_adveffects.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mp-710_effects.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mp-710_models.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_02patch_Shield_HUD.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_03patch_Nameplate.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_core.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_effects.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_models.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_music.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\mv_textures.vp'
Searching root 'C:\games\freespace2\'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\root_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\smarty_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\sparky_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\stu_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango1_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango2_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\tango3_fs2.vp'
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\warble_fs2.vp'
Found 23 roots and 12412 files.

So that means it is loading the patches before the rest of the vps right? Any more ideas?
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: taylor on January 26, 2007, 07:03:21 pm
Searching root pack 'C:\games\freespace2\Warzone\Warzone.vp'
That VP is loaded first, so what's in there?

And of course, this assumes that there are no files just laying around outside of a VP in 'C:\games\freespace2\Warzone\' or 'C:\games\freespace2\mediavps\'.
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: Kaine on January 27, 2007, 04:17:13 am
it isn't something obivous like emptying his cache folder or something is it?
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: Davin on January 27, 2007, 07:24:07 am
Well as soon as you guys figure out what his problem is the sooner I can get it fixed as well, I'll do the debugger thing and see what comes up for me. Oh I also get the "black box" effect around some explosions as well.
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: falcon2105 on January 27, 2007, 01:07:29 pm
All I have apart from the vp in the warzone folder are the fs2 logo, a mod.ini, and a settings file, and the same goes for my mediavps folder. OOO...Could it be the fact that i have the 710_adveffects patch, but not the actual mv_adveffects.vp file? I just noticed that, maybe deleting the 710 patch will fix it.
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: Trivial Psychic on January 27, 2007, 09:47:10 pm
You mean, you didn't extract the 710-patch-VP from the RAR archive?
Title: Re: Graphical Glitch
Post by: falcon2105 on January 27, 2007, 10:41:55 pm
Alright, so as far as I can tell, deleting the mp_710_adveffects.vp file solved the problem. Im not 100% sure though, but it seems fixed. Thanks for the help all :D.