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Title: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 12, 2007, 04:21:04 pm
IT is back! (Stil learly WIP)

*OLD IMAGES REMOVES, NEW ONES UPLOADED*

Demon side view with 3 turrt types
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3465/deamonnew4hy3.th.jpg) (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deamonnew4hy3.jpg)

Rear view and underbelly:
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/8623/deamonnew5xt2.th.jpg) (http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deamonnew5xt2.jpg)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Mongoose on February 12, 2007, 04:31:10 pm
Hawt.  Ness.  Now this is a Demon. :D
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Raven2001 on February 12, 2007, 05:29:07 pm
 :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Depth_Charge on February 12, 2007, 06:00:52 pm
woohoo  :D
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Polpolion on February 12, 2007, 09:11:28 pm
yay!
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: neoterran on February 12, 2007, 09:45:11 pm
weatherop is gonna be pissed
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Taristin on February 12, 2007, 11:00:26 pm
This was around way before Weatherop started his....... interpretation.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Kaboodles on February 13, 2007, 01:22:31 am
 :yes:  Did you have to start over?

Crit:  I dunno about the girders on the tail end of it.  I've always intepreted those dark lines as recessed, with the lighter center line flush with the rest of the surface.

Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 13, 2007, 06:15:26 am
Yup..I had to start over..

And I extruded those griders for rendering "show-off" purposes only.
Didn't save the scene after that since I wasn't completely satisfied.. I still have a lot of things to do  ;7
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Slime on February 13, 2007, 10:16:38 am
Now this is a good direction. Make sure to preserve the nicely armored look, which you have so far done. Eagerly awaiting WeatherOp...
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 13, 2007, 05:42:49 pm
Small update..working on turrets and the lower side now.. :D

(http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/2971/deamonnew3zp2.th.jpg) (http://img384.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deamonnew3zp2.jpg)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 13, 2007, 06:22:28 pm
WTF?!?!? :wtf:

Some wierd error messed up the whole rear section! Half the vertex are mising! :mad:

EDIT: Oh well, it's not that bad.. I'll have it fixed in 15 minutes.... :o
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Raven2001 on February 13, 2007, 06:38:03 pm
Only thing thats not looking right to me atm (talking of the areas where it shows youve worked ofc), are the "plate like" things on the side of it. Their looking a bit terranish atm imo

Maybe make them on the same style as you made the head?
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: WeatherOp on February 14, 2007, 12:49:58 am
weatherop is gonna be pissed

Nonsense, it gets me working where I should be at, BTRL. ;)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Kaboodles on February 14, 2007, 01:11:02 am
More girders!  /o\
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Raven2001 on February 14, 2007, 04:47:05 am

Nonsense, it gets me working where I should be at, BTRL. ;)

Now thats the sort of attitude people should have :)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 14, 2007, 04:04:45 pm
$%*!V!!*! :mad:

That wierd bug appeared again and messed up the whole lower section of the largest spike (the griders). I had to re-do it THREE times.. and I was so frustrated after the 3rd re-do, that I saved over the previous scene before I copied some other changes, like turrets and the underbelly...

So I had to do THAT again...:hopping:

I finally managed to ix it all and do some more work on the rear end..

New images in the first post!
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Taristin on February 14, 2007, 04:27:04 pm
Should probably stop using trueSpace.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 14, 2007, 04:51:31 pm
Been using it for 6 years..this is the first time something like this happened...

anyway, ina day or two I should be finished with the mesh itself...

Would anyone be willing to texture it, so I don't have to ? (and so I  can move over to the HTL Typhon and some vasudan-shivan hybrid destroyer)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Pnakotus on February 14, 2007, 09:36:22 pm
Typhon!?  Typhon!?  Awesome! :D
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Depth_Charge on February 14, 2007, 11:33:25 pm
Vasudan-Shivan hybrid destroyer???  Such as, or thats a secret???
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 15, 2007, 06:36:17 am
I'ts no secret.. all these ships were in the works when my HDD kicked the bucket.
I figure when I'm re-doin one, I might do the others too..

I don't feel comfortable showing the HTL Typhon yet and I still havn't started on the hybrid..

b.t.w. - I might be finished with the mesh by tonight if all goes well :D
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Pnakotus on February 15, 2007, 06:38:49 am
Can you share your ideas on how to approach the Typhon?  It's one of the iconic Freespace ships, but the original has a suck model and suck texturing.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 15, 2007, 04:55:50 pm

*PIC OF TYPHON REMOVED, NEW THREAD STARTED*

I'm 99% done with the Demon.. just a few more tweaks and it's done (currently, unoptimized 6800 polys :D )
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2669/deamonnew6jm8.th.jpg) (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deamonnew6jm8.jpg)

Anyone want to try and texture the thing?
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 16, 2007, 04:20:51 pm
Oh, C'mon!  :nervous:

I REALLY don't feel like texturing the thing ATM and it's a shame to keep this thing on the shelves collecting dust...
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Taristin on February 16, 2007, 04:38:51 pm
I dont like the changes to the typhon so far. Looks more like you made it fat, than anything else...
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 16, 2007, 05:45:53 pm
I made a new thread for hte HTL Typhon with a newer render, so let's reserve this thread for the Demon, shall we?  ;)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Taristin on February 16, 2007, 06:12:59 pm
Hey, You posted pics (which, might I add, arent showing up in your other thread for some reason) so nyah
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 20, 2007, 04:03:30 pm
I'm pretty much done with the Demon mesh...anyone want to texture it?

(http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8043/deamonnew7rs1.th.jpg) (http://img358.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deamonnew7rs1.jpg)

****TRUESPACE SCENE WITH THE SHIP****
http://www.hades-combine.com/web/hosted/fow/newdeamon.scn
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: neoterran on February 20, 2007, 04:48:19 pm
looks awesome...someone get freespaceking on this
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: starfox on February 20, 2007, 05:40:59 pm
Way past cool, can't wait for this !
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Kaboodles on February 21, 2007, 01:09:13 pm
Awesome, but I still don't like the girders.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: freespaceking on February 21, 2007, 03:17:55 pm
I texture it.
 :)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 21, 2007, 04:06:36 pm
You sure you can manage?

I put it up for download, a truespace scene - ship is made of several parts (and some are split in half).

So that menas:

half a head
half the upper body with two lower spikes
half the rear part (the arch-thing and 3rd spike)
underbelly
main turret pedistals
tubes and base for beam cannons on head
spine thingy
top engine "stripes"

Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Admiral Nelson on February 21, 2007, 04:12:28 pm
freespaceking deserves some kind of award for highest signal to noise postings ever!  :yes:
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: neoterran on February 21, 2007, 04:24:26 pm
yeah, at very least he deserves a custom title.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on February 21, 2007, 05:14:06 pm
Yeah. The guys a very good texture artist!
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Mehrpack on February 21, 2007, 11:14:50 pm
yeah, at very least he deserves a custom title.

hi,
yeah support this suggetion, because his work is really great.
but is a little bit offtopic.

nice work trashman, looks really good and great.

Mehrpack
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Cobra on February 23, 2007, 11:45:16 am
Yikes. Uh, Trashman, I can see where you combined the two halves of the body in the bottom pic. :nervous: (Actually, it's pretty obvious in the top shot pic too. :nervous: )
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on February 23, 2007, 04:35:19 pm
I havn't merged it yet. Made only half of it and then mirrored it for  rendering presentation purposes.

figure whoever wants to texture it will have it easier if he has to o only half of it...
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: neoterran on February 23, 2007, 08:34:35 pm
freespaceking says he'll do it.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: freespaceking on February 23, 2007, 08:49:30 pm
could you uv map it
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Scuddie on February 23, 2007, 09:49:35 pm
I'd hate to sound like a killjoy, but the detailing of the girders make it look very...  Terran.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on May 12, 2007, 06:11:16 am
Fsking.....any word on the beast?
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 12, 2007, 06:27:06 am
^ There. 2 posts above. ;)

could you uv map it
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on May 12, 2007, 07:29:08 am
AFAIK - *somone* told me he'll do it, I recall sending the model over...

MENTAL NOTE TO SELF: DON'T erase PM's!

Just peachy... :hopping:

Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Cobra on May 12, 2007, 10:27:59 am
OK then, Vasudan Admiral, when are YOU going to finish?! :P
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on May 12, 2007, 02:24:20 pm
I'm taking the battle to HLP. Finish the HTL Valkyrie, Vasudan Admiral!!
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Cobra on May 12, 2007, 03:40:15 pm
I'm taking the battle to HLP. Finish the HTL Valkyrie, Vasudan Admiral!!

Shut up, will you? He's only one guy.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on May 12, 2007, 03:46:20 pm
Shut up? Me? YOU ARE TAKSHI'ING ON ME??!!
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Cobra on May 12, 2007, 04:50:22 pm
I don't know what Takshi'ing is, but I'm telling you to calm down about the Valkyrie. :)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on May 12, 2007, 04:53:53 pm
Blah. He needs to finish it before I kill him. :mad2:
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 12, 2007, 07:40:54 pm
:wtf: People have been getting very strange round here recently. I was pointing out that people seemed to have missed fsking saying he was stuck. I was definitely not saying I was or intended to start working on the demon. :p
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Cobra on May 12, 2007, 10:03:52 pm
Shut up. :P Stop messing with my head!
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on May 13, 2007, 06:05:28 am
HTL Demon? Did I hear HTL Demon?

*pulls out M60*
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on May 13, 2007, 06:36:02 am
Then it will have to wait.... I got a dozen ships or so to finish for FOW3, nevermind all the FREDing for misions....
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Polpolion on May 17, 2007, 09:16:01 pm
Shut up? Me? YOU ARE TAKSHI'ING ON ME??!!

I hate how everyone always flames takashi. Seriously, just quit bugging him :rolleyes: .

Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Cobra on May 17, 2007, 09:23:14 pm
Well, since he hasn't been posting lately, we shouldn't.

But I feel justified about flaming him, as do the rest of them. If he posts again and doesn't show the intelligence of a rock, we shouldn't flame him. :P
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: CKid on May 17, 2007, 10:58:08 pm
You don't have to worry about takashi posting, he got banned from HLP around 2 weeks ago. He made a statement about it on game warden.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Cobra on May 17, 2007, 11:21:28 pm
You don't have to worry about takashi posting, he got banned...

HALLELUJAH!
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Polpolion on May 18, 2007, 03:44:59 pm
Oh ok, it's fine then. Sorry 'bout the mix up.

*goes off to find statement
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on May 18, 2007, 03:54:47 pm
Was it a perma ban?
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: CKid on May 18, 2007, 03:59:59 pm
His statement is right here -> http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4121
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: S-99 on May 18, 2007, 04:53:19 pm
Apparently he got IP-banned.
Quote from: takashi
i can see being banned form HLp, but an IP ban so i cant download or even access the wiki/hosted sites is a bit harsh. i dont even know excactly what spam is, and dont even know proper forum conduct (there ought to be a readme or something on it).

And is clueless...
Quote from: takashi
trolls are people who refuse to show who they realy are and instead make up a fake self to fit in? seems kinda normal too me...or just those paranoid people who tend to think the admin is president or something. as for me, im just fearful of unknown target.

...of what's really going on.
Quote from: karajorma
Trolls are people who log on to forums deliberately to cause arguments for no reason other than cause they like pissing people off.

 :lol:
Quote from: Unknown Target
Hallelujah praise the lord!

EDIT: Oh, and ROFL @ your face.
:lol:
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on May 18, 2007, 05:05:29 pm
1. What has this to do with the HTL demon?

2. He got IP banned? Damn, that IS too harsh....
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on May 19, 2007, 08:37:55 am
What happens when his IP changes/he goes to a new computer/internet service provider?
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on May 19, 2007, 01:05:49 pm
he logs back in? Oh..the horros... :rolleyes:

Anywayz, anyone interested in skinning (mapping, texturing) the bad boy?
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on May 19, 2007, 02:12:36 pm
he logs back in? Oh..the horros... :rolleyes:

That's the point. What do we do then? :shaking:
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: HermeZ on May 20, 2007, 06:32:53 am
That's the point. What do we do then? :shaking:
Err.... Ban him one more time ? :D
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 04, 2009, 03:53:32 pm
:bump:

The link to the HTL Demon is dead...
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Aardwolf on November 04, 2009, 05:26:24 pm
It wasn't that great anyway. Some of the screenshots on pages 2 and 3 are still there.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Droid803 on November 04, 2009, 06:30:44 pm
Doesn't mean it couldn't be fixed...and I liked it.
Just because you don't doesn't mean that it's not worth anything.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Commander Zane on November 04, 2009, 07:15:30 pm
So did I, at least it has a high-poly model to mess with, I still don't see what was wrong with it.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on November 06, 2009, 06:45:57 am
One of these days I'll re-upload it...

Every time I get back to work on it, it's behind irritates the hell out of me. I just don't know what to do with it. I tried with some gridery structure, but it didn't seem right.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on November 06, 2009, 12:53:36 pm
Every time I get back to work on it, it's behind irritates the hell out of me. I just don't know what to do with it. I tried with some gridery structure, but it didn't seem right.
Thank God.

I hate girders on Shivan ships...
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Aardwolf on November 06, 2009, 05:37:22 pm
I hate girders on Shivan ships...

We know, Snail, we know. You've said it over 9000 times, we know.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Titan on November 06, 2009, 06:45:35 pm
... I didn't...
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Droid803 on November 06, 2009, 08:15:32 pm
"Noone cares about YOU!"

But seriously, I don't get what the **** is wrong with girders on Shivan ships - the ones in the Ravana look absolutely fine. They don't look non-Shivan at all.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on November 07, 2009, 05:55:35 am
But seriously, I don't get what the **** is wrong with girders on Shivan ships - the ones in the Ravana look absolutely fine. They don't look non-Shivan at all.
That's, you know, your opinion, so uh. Yeah.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: General Battuta on November 07, 2009, 10:02:30 am
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man..."

The man in the black pajamas. Worthy ****ing adversary.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Thaeris on November 07, 2009, 10:14:20 am
[oldcrotchetyfart]
That damn ol' hooligan, carvin' "Z's" everywhere...
[/oldcrotchetyfart]
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Snail on November 07, 2009, 10:41:09 am
Yeah, you can argue to the moon and back, not changin' my opinion. :)
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Thaeris on November 07, 2009, 10:46:10 am
Mexican Gentleman 1: "Who the hell are you? Zorro?"

Mexican Gentleman 2: "No. I'm Antonio Banderas!"

[swordfight ensues thereafter]
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Commander Zane on November 07, 2009, 10:53:57 am
And my opinion is at least it's HTL, I'd rather see this done than never see the Demon HTL'd.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 07, 2009, 12:02:29 pm
And my opinion is at least it's HTL, I'd rather see this done than never see the Demon HTL'd.
Yes, that. If people don't like it, they can always extract the original model from the retail data and override the HTL one with it.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on November 08, 2009, 03:47:19 am
K, here's the scene...methinks this is the latest one:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?cw1jmxhiu2q

Hm...IIRC, I did use shortened names for some FS textures, for 3D Max import/export. Maybe I should include them in the file too?
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 08, 2009, 04:44:09 am
Gah. I just found out that Blender doesn't import SCN files >.<
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: Hades on November 08, 2009, 08:05:46 am
Trashman, I think having the download in a format like obj or 3ds would make it much easier for other people to do anything with it, as most other modeling applications have no way of importing scn.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on November 08, 2009, 02:15:26 pm
OK, hold on...let me see what I can do.

EDIT:

Here, some .cob files
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?y42mgkzynmj

I'll make 3ds files if needed later
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 09, 2009, 02:57:05 am
I wonder why you split it up into parts?
Also, they seem to be COB files, not OBJ.
Title: Re: Coming back from the dead, straight from the fires of Hell!
Post by: TrashMan on November 09, 2009, 05:49:23 am
Ups... why the hell did I write obj? :wtf:

Why did I split? It's easier to make a ship in sections. It's also easier to export/import into 3D Max