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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: aldo_14 on February 19, 2007, 11:15:39 am
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/19/rfid_powder/
Just what we need in todays modern society, where governments are completely open and would never, ever, ever dream of abusing their power for political goals.
Ahem.
We're doomed...
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Quite ****ed my friend.
Thanks Hitatchi.
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*Has a reason to finally start wearing dust masks over his mouth*
Naw, I doubt they'll start sprinkling these from the sky or anything. What could they do with it? Sneak it into drug clinics and have it administered in everyday shots?
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Just wait till Usa gets ahold of this. Thats when the real party will begin.
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Just wait till Usa gets ahold of this. Thats when the real party will begin.
i know the US will do it when the people least expect it, but what about the UK?
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ASAP
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Just wait till Usa gets ahold of this. Thats when the real party will begin.
i know the US will do it when the people least expect it, but what about the UK?
Our government will try, spend billions of pounds on consultation and thinly veiled propaganda, before devising an ill-conceived scheme that falls apart 10 years later, well behind deadline and over-budget.
If the British government was anywhere near competent, we'd be living in Airstrip One by now. Thank bobbins they aren't.
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Our government will try, spend billions of pounds on consultation and thinly veiled propaganda, before devising an ill-conceived scheme that falls apart 10 years later, well behind deadline and over-budget.
IMO, that is what will happen to all the governments who try since they'll be stopped by their own foolish greed. :D When everyone backstabs each other, everyone gets nothing.
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*Has a reason to finally start wearing dust masks over his mouth*
Naw, I doubt they'll start sprinkling these from the sky or anything. What could they do with it? Sneak it into drug clinics and have it administered in everyday shots?
Read the article
Anti-counterfeiting protection in admission tickets, gift certificates, and currency are among the applications under consideration,
EDIT: And check this out:
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/02/20/0045227.shtml
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While on the topic of ID cards..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/20/blair_fingerprint_suspects/
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Watch your ****ing langauge!
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Watch your ****ing langauge!
Rofololafo
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Thanks a ****in bunch, Hitachi.
I bet the whole lot will laugh their asses off when Bush starts drooling over this.....
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RFID cards bother me... but some radio identifiers sprinkled at random to simply track largely anonymous people don't seem so bad, unless you are a person involved in physical illicit activities.
As long as these things remain largely random and designed for tracking stuff like ticket sales, etc... well, what could they potentially do besides let some government hack know that I'm taking a detour in an alley for a leak? And if these really are harmful, well, a government is only as powerful as it's following. Anger a public enough and you'll have a really, really big insurgency. You do have the military, but most of our soldiers- the people actually holding the guns, not telling them where to shoot- are regular people.
If I'm missing some crucial detail here, please let me know...
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I don't care if I'm not doing anything illegal, the government doesn't have the right to know, end of story.
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RFID cards bother me... but some radio identifiers sprinkled at random to simply track largely anonymous people doesn't seem so bad, unless you are a person involved in physical illicit activities.
As long as these things remain largely random and designed for tracking stuff like ticket sales, etc... well, what could they potentially do besides let some government hack know that I'm taking a detour in an alley for a leak? And if these really are harmful, well, a government is only as powerful as it's following. Anger a public enough and you'll have a really, really big insurgency. You do have the military, most of our soldiers- the people actually holding the guns, not telling them where to shoot- are regular people.
If I'm missing some crucial detail here, please let me know...
Thats the fallacy Grawr...its about who has a right to know what. I'm starting to think that privacy rights and boundaries need to be written into constitutions at this rate.
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If anything, totalitarian governments have proven themselves over history to be very adept at controlling the population of their country; in Russia, gulag prisoners wrote to Stalin believing he was benevolent and could help them. Just look at China justnow - huge population, abused by the people in charge, not too much external threat to force the government to change, and yet no revolution. Or indeed North Korea.
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omg scientists developed microscopic transmitters! Big Government is going to track me every time I light up! ahhh!
Seriously guys, not every new invention is created to destroy your freedom. As important as you think you are, or however angry you are at your government, Uncle Sam (or Uncle Carlos, Heinrich, Charles, Miayamoto) really doesn't give a ****. That is unless you happen to have brown skin and a degree in biochemical eng.
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omg scientists developed microscopic transmitters! Big Government is going to track me every time I light up! ahhh!
Seriously guys, not every new invention is created to destroy your freedom. As important as you think you are, or however angry you are at your government, Uncle Sam (or Uncle Carlos, Heinrich, Charles, Miayamoto) really doesn't give a ****. That is unless you happen to have brown skin and a degree in biochemical eng.
Question - Why do most democratic nations have an independent judiciary and a bill of rights or constitution?
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To review the laws of the legislative branch while checking the balance of power, and to provide a set of principles on which a democratic state (with bigger fish to fry) shall be governed. Respectively, of course.
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I'm starting to think that privacy rights and boundaries need to be written into constitutions at this rate.
Best idea I've heard all day.
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To review the laws of the legislative branch while checking the balance of power, and to provide a set of principles on which a democratic state (with bigger fish to fry) shall be governed. Respectively, of course.
Why are they independent?
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I'm starting to think that privacy rights and boundaries need to be written into constitutions at this rate.
Err...
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
and
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved for the States respectively, or to the people.
That is, the people and the States reserve all rights not specifically prohibited by the Constitution, and all authority not explicitly granted to the federal government.
So basically, we don't need to rewrite the Constitution; we need to start reading the one we have.
Yes, I realize IceFire is Canadian. This is merely a counterexample.
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I mean our charter of rights and freedoms...its not there as far as I can remember. I don't know the American one nearly as well. Still...we have more rights and freedoms than you guys do these days.
I didn't realize that the American one has those lines at all. Somewhat encouraging if anyone paid attention to them.
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I think Bush used the Constitution as toilet paper and flushed it away a looooong time ago.
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I mean our charter of rights and freedoms...its not there as far as I can remember. I don't know the American one nearly as well. Still...we have more rights and freedoms than you guys do these days.
I didn't realize that the American one has those lines at all. Somewhat encouraging if anyone paid attention to them.
I'm sure they'll be amended out soon.
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To review the laws of the legislative branch while checking the balance of power, and to provide a set of principles on which a democratic state (with bigger fish to fry) shall be governed. Respectively, of course.
Why are they independent?
To avoid being bullied around by the Executive and Legislative branches into reviewing legislation in their favor, though some could argue courtstacking has this same effect. Or to not have judges as legislators as well (I'm looking at you, Westminster parliamentary systems).
Oh, and kudos to Goob for mentioning the Bill of Rights.
I mean our charter of rights and freedoms...its not there as far as I can remember.
Actually, you guys do:
Section 26
The guarantee in this Charter of certain rights and freedoms shall not be construed as denying the existence of any other rights or freedoms that exist in Canada.
Since the Charter is included in the Constitution, I guess it would mean something.
I mean our charter of rights and freedoms...its not there as far as I can remember. I don't know the American one nearly as well. Still...we have more rights and freedoms than you guys do these days.
I didn't realize that the American one has those lines at all. Somewhat encouraging if anyone paid attention to them.
I'm sure they'll be amended out soon.
Over my and any other fairly educated American's dead body.
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To review the laws of the legislative branch while checking the balance of power, and to provide a set of principles on which a democratic state (with bigger fish to fry) shall be governed. Respectively, of course.
Why are they independent?
To avoid being bullied around by the Executive and Legislative branches into reviewing legislation in their favor, though some could argue courtstacking has this same effect. Or to not have judges as legislators as well (I'm looking at you, Westminster parliamentary systems).
Wow.... you are so wrong on that score. The only role the UK legal system has in legislation is 1) criticising the illegality of it and 2) criticising the current governments attempt to ride roughshod over the independence of the legal system.
Or would you care give an example of judges legislating in the UK?
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Wow.... you are so wrong on that score. The only role the UK legal system has in legislation is 1) criticising the illegality of it and 2) criticising the current governments attempt to ride roughshod over the independence of the legal system.
Yes, but when the judges are in the legislature, it gets a little unnerving, yes? Not saying it's been done before in the UK, at least not to my knowledge, but it is just a bad idea.
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Reform_Act_2005) makes me a feel a whole lot better about the whole deal. Independent judiciary FTW.
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Ahh good one then. We still rock then.
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Wow.... you are so wrong on that score. The only role the UK legal system has in legislation is 1) criticising the illegality of it and 2) criticising the current governments attempt to ride roughshod over the independence of the legal system.
Yes, but when the judges are in the legislature, it gets a little unnerving, yes? Not saying it's been done before in the UK, at least not to my knowledge, but it is just a bad idea.
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Reform_Act_2005) makes me a feel a whole lot better about the whole deal. Independent judiciary FTW.
That's not the judges role in the legislature, that's the legislatures role vis-a-vis judges.
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Over my and any other fairly educated American's dead body.
let's see... (15.5% + 8.9% (http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2002-06-05-education-census.htm)) * 300,000,000 = 73.2 Million Americans.
hmmmm.... doesn't seem like enough.
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Over my and any other fairly educated American's dead body.
let's see... (15.5% + 8.9% (http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2002-06-05-education-census.htm)) * 300,000,000 = 73.2 Million Americans.
hmmmm.... doesn't seem like enough.
Yeah... we can kill them all in short order... it'll take a couple of weeks >_<
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Educated != intelligent.
In fact, there's actually a statistically significant correllation between the increase in aggregate education level of the U.S. and the drop in aggregate intelligence of students. That doesn't imply causation, of course, but when you have a large percentage of 12th graders unable to read at a 3rd grade level, it's something to think about.
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Educated != intelligent.
Civic education, I mean.
Math and science can go die.
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****ing Hitachi... bet you 20 bucks most of the employees got cockblocked thanks to this ****e...
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(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/Franky.jpg)
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(http://www.aqsx85.dsl.pipex.com/Franky.jpg)
Yep, cuz I roll like that ****e. :D
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Well, it's actually only just been 21 days which is hardly Necro-threading, which, quite frankly, sounds like some kind of Anime-ish cyber-tech ;) But I hadn't posted that image in a while, and it makes a break from the beam ;)
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On a related note, ID cards on Bremner, Bird & Fortune last night:
You can't change what's on the database. You aren't allowed to know what's on the database. The Guv can change it at will. Without telling you. But it's your responsability to keep it accurate.
Good show that.