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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kazan on January 04, 2002, 10:23:00 am
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Ok, guys well im taking off guys, i'm going to release all my source code for my FreeSpace 2 applications
i'm working on a build of POF Constructor Suite and i will finish it then release it.
The Code will be released under the rules of the GPL license - or the license that Volition/Interplay put on the fileformats (if they code works with the file formats)
After I get windows emulation running on my linux machine I will be able to help out - and i may even be able to play FreeSpace 2 and Red Faction! (i've seen screens of them running on windows emulation faster than on windows)
I'm really growing bored of gaming, it's been fun guys, and I'll be around to talk and give help, etc.
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or the Guys that wrote an operating system to use
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"Why Climb it?" - "Because it's there."
"God is dead." - Nietzsche
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Bored of gaming? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wtf.gif)
Anyway, it's good to hear that you will still pop in every now and then. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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or atleast bored of all the games i have on windows.. they're are some real great games on linux that aren't on windows - but you don't hear about them because they're free!
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Who do you trust?
The Guy that wrote an operating system to sell
or the Guys that wrote an operating system to use
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"Why Climb it?" - "Because it's there."
"God is dead." - Nietzsche
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FreeSpace 2: The Babylon Project Effects Nerd and Programmer. ("http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon")
Alliance Productions ("http://alliance.sourceforge.net")
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Yeah, like that one where you shoot the balls and it destroys the pipes (it comes with Mandrake). That game rocks.
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Originally posted by Kazan:
I'm really growing bored of gaming
Until it ends heh (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Anyhow, good luck with whatever it is you're doing. I've just installed Linux and haven't had a lot of experience with emulators but I'll check them out (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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i think its fair to say your contribution to the fs2 modding community can not be underestimated with your work on pcs, great work kazan, hopefully your stuff be around on icq (if you can get it on linux)
if not, keep in touch with the team via the forum at least (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Cya Kazan.
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Originally posted by CptWhite:
if you can get it on linux
A clone(I think it's a clone) comes with it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Lol (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
I just can't stop laughing to these anti-windows idiots.
Though for someone like Kazan, Linux is maybe a better choice, for anyone else, garbage.
And about the the subject: Once again, huh?
Note: I'm going to be flamed to death because of this post, but I'll post it anyway.
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Originally posted by Pera:
Lol (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
I just can't stop laughing to these anti-windows idiots.
Though for someone like Kazan, Linux is maybe a better choice, for anyone else, garbage.
And about the the subject: Once again, huh?
Note: I'm going to be flamed to death because of this post, but I'll post it anyway.
Since when does using Linux making you an 'anti-windows idiot'? I'm a FreeBSD user. Does that make me an 'anti-windows idiot'? Seriously, that was a pretty ignorant statement. Use the OS that works best for what you need your OS to do. For some people that's a Linux flavor, or a BSD variant or Windows or MacOS. For gaming it happens to be Windows these days.
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http://www.404error.com
ruhkferret on ICQ/AIM
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Originally posted by Kazan:
or atleast bored of all the games i have on windows.. they're are some real great games on linux that aren't on windows - but you don't hear about them because they're free!
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wtf.gif) Nothing beats XP pinball or real games like AVP2.
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Originally posted by Pera:
Lol (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
I just can't stop laughing to these anti-windows idiots.
Though for someone like Kazan, Linux is maybe a better choice, for anyone else, garbage.
And about the the subject: Once again, huh?
Note: I'm going to be flamed to death because of this post, but I'll post it anyway.
*insert requested flaming comments here*
Seriously, why post something that you yourself predict will cause flaming? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Whatevers, anyway - Kazan: You've been a real good help at times, and at times you've been a real jerk - but that's why we'll miss you. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Glad to hear you'll still be hanging around the boards, dude. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
And I don't think you, especially, will have too much trouble getting those emulators working. All they need is a good scream or three. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
I don't run it, but... GO LINUX!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Kazan will be back. He ALWAYS comes back.
Like the song says... ("http://www.flyingfishsailors.com/mp3/catcameback.mp3") (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Zeronet:
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wtf.gif) Nothing beats XP pinball or real games like AVP2.
you should see some of the linux games
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Originally posted by Kazan:
you should see some of the linux games
pong power!
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many of the linux games have graphics that make freespace 2 pail in comparision
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Originally posted by Kazan:
many of the linux games have graphics that make freespace 2 pail in comparision
Out of curiosity, which games are you looking at?
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http://www.404error.com
ruhkferret on ICQ/AIM
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KONQUEST! W00T!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Kazan:
many of the linux games have graphics that make freespace 2 pail in comparision
Iwar2 is a windows game, so is RTCW, they both have amazing graphics. Really im not interested in the little games that come with the operating system.
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MacOS. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Yeah, Pera, it really sounds like you said that because you wanted to be an ******* . Over the years, Windows has pandered more and more to the lowest common denominator of computer literacy, at the price of b=convienience to advanced users. I have two computers, one ancient old grandaddy of a Pentium with a badly corrupted, unstable Windows 95 copy and a fast one with Windows 2000. The damaged Windows 95 has fewer problems in running than a fully operational Win2K, and what's more takes up a fraction of the HD space- I also have slightly more hard disk on the faster one, but only holds half as many apps and STILL has memory issues most of the time- largely because it uses Windows 2000. 'Course, I doubt someone as unaware as you understood half of that, but there you go.
See ya Kazan. And I know I will, there is no escape!!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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XP runs like a dream (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Cya Kazan; the community will miss ya.
Good luck whatever you do.
BTW; can you direct me to any good linux games?
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Hey Kazan, maybe this would be a good time to port FS1 and FS2 to Linux. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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"You know you've played Freespace too much when you're driving along trying to use countermeasures to shake off pursuing highway police." - Top Gun
"Oh and Kazan - you have some nice rocks" - Thunder
"stapled myself to an office chair, forgot about it, and was stuck for 2 hours for one thing" - Stryke 9
Material Defender Studios ("http://www.mdstudios.f2s.com/index.html")
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Originally posted by mikhael:
Since when does using Linux making you an 'anti-windows idiot'? I'm a FreeBSD user. Does that make me an 'anti-windows idiot'? Seriously, that was a pretty ignorant statement. Use the OS that works best for what you need your OS to do. For some people that's a Linux flavor, or a BSD variant or Windows or MacOS. For gaming it happens to be Windows these days.
I was actually referring to Kazans earlier posting about the subject. He said that he's schwicthing to linux because "he wants not to be dependant of Microsoft" And that's just dumb, whatever you say.
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Bye Kazan, good luck wherever life takes you (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by ZylonBane:
Kazan will be back. He ALWAYS comes back.
Like the song says... ("http://www.flyingfishsailors.com/mp3/catcameback.mp3") (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Have you seen the cartoon for that? It's great (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Top Gun:
Have you seen the cartoon for that? It's great (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
I love that...
The Canadian version anyway..
Havent seen any others..
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Originally posted by Pera:
I was actually referring to Kazans earlier posting about the subject. He said that he's schwicthing to linux because "he wants not to be dependant of Microsoft" And that's just dumb, whatever you say.
or you're just ignorant
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Well..i suppose everyone needs a holiday at some point.
I'd run linux if -
1/ 3dlabs released validated drivers
2/ Discreet Ported 3dsmax...but softimageXSI 2 is a great temptation (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
3/ It wasnt so fiddly to get running if you have specialised hardware
4/ If i knew about security holes..maybe my information is antiquated but i rememeber a lot of people referring to linux as "please hack me" at one point.
I dont like windows, its inefficient, inextensible and microsoft are so tight with intellectual property they all but kill off most chances of innovation on the platform.
But having said that its the only platform i can get up and running on that does what i need it to (IE, run 3d graphics apps i know and let me do some gaming on the side)
I like fiddling with OSes and hardware, but it gets annoying when you have to keep screwing around with something to keep it stable.
Just my 2 quid.
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Originally posted by wEvil:
But having said that its the only platform i can get up and running on that does what i need it to (IE, run 3d graphics apps i know and let me do some gaming on the side)
everything is said there (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by wEvil:
I dont like windows, its inefficient, inextensible and microsoft are so tight with intellectual property they all but kill off most chances of innovation on the platform.
Windows XP isnt inefficient. Its got tons of new features that make life easier and more stable.
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Well you have been a big asset to the FreeSpace community with all the tools you have made. Thanks for your support, and see ya around 8)
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Got to be Psychopathic to use TS
United Space ("http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/us/dowabout.shtml")
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Originally posted by Zeronet:
Its got tons of new features that make life easier and more stable.
...for people who'd be better off with an iMac. For those of us who actually know something about computers, XP's "helpful" new features are just crap that gets in the way.
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I find 2000 to be the best of the Windows OSs.
Its the most stable (for me anyways), everything runs faster, etc..
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Originally posted by Thorn:
I find 2000 to be the best of the Windows OSs.
Its the most stable (for me anyways), everything runs faster, etc..
I'm going to have to agree with you there. 2k is probably the best Windows OS yet.
...of course...if Linux had the kind of app support that Windows has, I would switch in a heartbeat.
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And if you could change resolution without resorting to a console and having to re-set all your video card settings. Of course, that's second to actually getting an ethernet working...
*cough*can anyone help?*cough*
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[This message has been edited by WMCoolmon (edited 01-05-2002).]
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Originally posted by wEvil:
4/ If i knew about security holes..maybe my information is antiquated but i rememeber a lot of people referring to linux as "please hack me" at one point.
very very very very antiquated -
BTW: Windows Emulation (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Who do you trust?
The Guy that wrote an operating system to sell
or the Guys that wrote an operating system to use
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"Why Climb it?" - "Because it's there."
"God is dead." - Nietzsche
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FreeSpace 2: The Babylon Project Effects Nerd and Programmer. ("http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon")
Alliance Productions ("http://alliance.sourceforge.net")
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon:
And if you could change resolution without resorting to a console and having to re-set all your video card settings. Of course, that's second to actually getting an ethernet working..
which os are you talking about? because ethernet is a breeze on linux and X configuration is even easier
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Eh, I'd run it if I could get all the stuff running on Linux that I can on windows. It makes for one helluva Web Platform.
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If you have a picture or mod you want hosted, just email me at [email protected] and I can post it on SubSpace Zero. We've got unlimited space(well, nearly :) )
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what can't you get running (check out mandrake - 7 cds! apps apps and more apps come with that distro)
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Who do you trust?
The Guy that wrote an operating system to sell
or the Guys that wrote an operating system to use
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"Why Climb it?" - "Because it's there."
"God is dead." - Nietzsche
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FreeSpace 2: The Babylon Project Effects Nerd and Programmer. ("http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon")
Alliance Productions ("http://alliance.sourceforge.net")
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well my main computer is switched over.. im isntalling stuff now
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Originally posted by Zeronet:
Windows XP isnt inefficient. Its got tons of new features that make life easier and more stable.
*tries to keep from laughing*
Let me guess, they changed the BSOD to a little red screen saying "This computer has crashed. Please pay MS another $150 for a new copy of Windows XP as it is the only way you will ever get anything up and running." (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Seriously, XP is basically Win2k n00bified. If you want to have a OS that looks like it came from Toys R Us..then whatever floats your boat. However, as "great" as it sounds, no OS has EVER been NEAR as stable as DOS. Sure, it comes close (mainly because it doesn't have to deal with hybrid crap) but not close enough. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) The only thing REMOTELY close is UNIX. And the great thing about UNIX is that it has networking support BUILT-IN, unlike DOS. MS should've definitely gone the NIX route instead of cloning crap from Apple.
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"You know you've played Freespace too much when you're driving along trying to use countermeasures to shake off pursuing highway police." - Top Gun
"Oh and Kazan - you have some nice rocks" - Thunder
"stapled myself to an office chair, forgot about it, and was stuck for 2 hours for one thing" - Stryke 9
Material Defender Studios ("http://www.mdstudios.f2s.com/index.html")
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Originally posted by MD-2389:
*tries to keep from laughing*
Let me guess, they changed the BSOD to a little red screen saying "This computer has crashed. Please pay MS another $150 for a new copy of Windows XP as it is the only way you will ever get anything up and running." (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Seriously, XP is basically Win2k n00bified. If you want to have a OS that looks like it came from Toys R Us..then whatever floats your boat. However, as "great" as it sounds, no OS has EVER been NEAR as stable as DOS. Sure, it comes close (mainly because it doesn't have to deal with hybrid crap) but not close enough. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) The only thing REMOTELY close is UNIX. And the great thing about UNIX is that it has networking support BUILT-IN, unlike DOS. MS should've definitely gone the NIX route instead of cloning crap from Apple.
Ah but XP is 2k is NT and NT, as anyone who knows their MS kernels will point out, is VMS at its core. XP and family are all pretty stable, once you, the administrator, rip out all the silly frippery that makes it act in silly ways. Like the various compatibility layers, integrated server bits, etc.
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--Mik
http://www.404error.com
ruhkferret on ICQ/AIM
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I sense a Holy War.
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The only wars that happen around here never get enough time to develop. Not whilst I still wield this: (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/hammer.gif)
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Ok, here's the way things are: Windows 2000 (professional) is the best version of windows out there for people who know what they're doing in windows and computers. Period, end of sentence.
Windows XP, while it may still retain the NT/2K stability, runs slowly as an OS. Screen redraws are slower than any other previous windows (what else is new (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif) ). The interface is dumbed down, and given a theme/skin that looks like it was designed by Fisher/Price. It's gaming performance lies below Win98 but above Win2k. Note: I'm not referring to Win98SE because I have no experience with that specific version, nor am I going to start harping on WinME - it's not worth the kilobits it'd take up. *shudders at the mention of WinME*
I've found that for work, or basically for anything that doesn't involve DirectX/OpenGL 3D gaming, Windows 2000 is the best. It makes great use of any and all extra RAM you throw its way. It's stable. It can be configured for a nice level of security, etc. The only reason I still dual-boot with Win98 is for 3D gaming performance.
As far as compatability with apps goes, overall Win98 is the best - simply because Win2K is quite protective of its hardware, which is one of the main reasons for its stability. An example I have personal familiarity with (grrr...) is that of a TV card. My brother has an ancient LifeView TV card that was originally made back in the Windows 3.1 days. It worked - with upgraded software - up through Win98. But despite the specifically engineered Win2K drivers/software for it, it simply would not run under 2K. So my brother dual-boots, too. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.
Know how to use Rhino3D? Want to put your ships into Freespace 2? You've come to the right place ("http://www.geocities.com/sandvich/fs2/rhino_fs2/")!
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Originally posted by Kazan:
7 cds! apps apps and more apps come with that distro
There's an awful lot of apps that come with red hat, way more then anything M$ would ever throw in (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Just as a final note on this subject: I insist that anyone thinking of buying a new Micro$oft O$ read This ("http://www.opensource.org/halloween/index.html") before they put money into the pockets of those ba$tards.
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Actually, even for Opengl/DirectX gaming, 2k is great, its just a pain to get them to work properly.
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Originally posted by Top Gun:
Just as a final note on this subject: I insist that anyone thinking of buying a new Micro$oft O$ read This ("http://www.opensource.org/halloween/index.html") before they put money into the pockets of those ba$tards.
I dont listen to Hip Hop. I wouldnt know what it tells you when your computer crashes, because quite simply it hasnt crashed. Although its understandable that some people just dont like it when someone becomes successful. I'll stick with the OS's that run my games the best, that is Windows etc.
[This message has been edited by Zeronet (edited 01-06-2002).]
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Originally posted by Thunder:
The only wars that happen around here never get enough time to develop. Not whilst I still wield this: (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/hammer.gif)
And THIS folks is why Gallagher should never be allowed to have children. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
It slices, it dices, it closes threads! Don't you want to know what it is?
SLEDGE-O-MATIC!
*BAM*
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"You know you've played Freespace too much when you're driving along trying to use countermeasures to shake off pursuing highway police." - Top Gun
"Oh and Kazan - you have some nice rocks" - Thunder
"stapled myself to an office chair, forgot about it, and was stuck for 2 hours for one thing" - Stryke 9
Material Defender Studios ("http://www.mdstudios.f2s.com/index.html")
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Originally posted by Thorn:
Actually, even for Opengl/DirectX gaming, 2k is great, its just a pain to get them to work properly.
If your hardware has decent NT drivers, you won't have any trouble at all. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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"You know you've played Freespace too much when you're driving along trying to use countermeasures to shake off pursuing highway police." - Top Gun
"Oh and Kazan - you have some nice rocks" - Thunder
"stapled myself to an office chair, forgot about it, and was stuck for 2 hours for one thing" - Stryke 9
Material Defender Studios ("http://www.mdstudios.f2s.com/index.html")
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Originally posted by Kazan:
or atleast bored of all the games i have on windows.. they're are some real great games on linux that aren't on windows - but you don't hear about them because they're free!
such as?
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Originally posted by MD-2389:
*tries to keep from laughing*
Let me guess, they changed the BSOD to a little red screen saying "This computer has crashed. Please pay MS another $150 for a new copy of Windows XP as it is the only way you will ever get anything up and running." (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Seriously, XP is basically Win2k n00bified. If you want to have a OS that looks like it came from Toys R Us..then whatever floats your boat. However, as "great" as it sounds, no OS has EVER been NEAR as stable as DOS. Sure, it comes close (mainly because it doesn't have to deal with hybrid crap) but not close enough. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) The only thing REMOTELY close is UNIX. And the great thing about UNIX is that it has networking support BUILT-IN, unlike DOS. MS should've definitely gone the NIX route instead of cloning crap from Apple.
shows how much you know... you obviously don't have it running, or you wouldn't talk like such an idiot! Oh, and it's not build on Windows 2000, it's build on NT
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Originally posted by Mystical:
shows how much you know... you obviously don't have it running, or you wouldn't talk like such an idiot! Oh, and it's not build on Windows 2000, it's build on NT
If memory serves me, Windows 2000 was built on NT...:P
P.S. Where can I get all of Kazan's tools?
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Windows 2000 was very much NT "technology"
tools are on the ap site
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Who do you trust?
The Guy that wrote an operating system to sell
or the Guys that wrote an operating system to use
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"Why Climb it?" - "Because it's there."
"God is dead." - Nietzsche
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FreeSpace 2: The Babylon Project Effects Nerd and Programmer. ("http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/babylon")
Alliance Productions ("http://alliance.sourceforge.net")
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so wait...are you gone or not?
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Originally posted by Carl:
so wait...are you gone or not?
Duhhh.... can't you tell he's gone? I mean, really, Carl.... with all those compound eyes, can you see him or his posts anywhere? I certainly can't... {/dripping sarcasm}
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
All those ramblings aside, that's a good question. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.
Know how to use Rhino3D? Want to put your ships into Freespace 2? You've come to the right place ("http://www.geocities.com/sandvich/fs2/rhino_fs2/")!
"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar ("http://www.geocities.com/sandvich/index.html"), the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)
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Kazan do you have any idea when you'll be releasing the code. I'd very much like to get a look at it.
Thanks dude and good luck (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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"Friendship is unnecessary, like philosophy, like art... It has no survival value; rather is one of those things that give value to survival."
- C. S. Lewis
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i said i'd been in from time to time, especially when i get email notification of replies
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Originally posted by Top Gun:
Just as a final note on this subject: I insist that anyone thinking of buying a new Micro$oft O$ read This ("http://www.opensource.org/halloween/index.html") before they put money into the pockets of those ba$tards.
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
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Originally posted by Kazan:
i said i'd been in from time to time, especially when i get email notification of replies
Email notification, eh? Quick everyone, flood his topics! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) [j/k]
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I should get email notification, never arrives though. Hmmm. I guess its not important.
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What did you say Steak? I could not hear you...
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Originally posted by Mystical:
shows how much you know... you obviously don't have it running, or you wouldn't talk like such an idiot! Oh, and it's not build on Windows 2000, it's build on NT
Read it again moron. I said its "Windows 2000 n00bified". I never said it was based on Win2k. Don't put words in my mouth.
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Originally posted by Setekh:
Email notification, eh? Quick everyone, flood his topics! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) [j/k]
nasty, nasty steak!
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Originally posted by MD-2389:
Read it again moron. I said its "Windows 2000 n00bified". I never said it was based on Win2k. Don't put words in my mouth.
But it IS based on Windows 2000. The 2000 kernel is a bottom up audit and total rewrite of the the NT4 kernel. The XP kernel is an update (not rewrite) of the 2000 kernel.
As far as the XP interface goes, well that's a skin, and can be replaced with like four clicks of the mouse with the old Win2k skin.
I still won't upgrade from 2k, but its still a decent OS.
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Hmm... that's 65 emails so far...
That's worse than all the spam I get in my hotmail account!! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Glad you've come back Kazan.
(oh wait... am I missing something?)
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