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Title: Freespace plot
Post by: Nexius113 on February 20, 2007, 06:27:01 pm
Awesome, first post!  Glad to have stumbled onto this board and see that the Freespace community is alive and well  :)

Anyway, perhaps this has been discussed a lot seeing as there are quite a few writers on this forum - but does anyone know who was originally responsible for the Freespace plot?  Were they different writers for 1 and 2?  If so is there a possibility of getting into contact with that person?  As I see it, if no company is willing to make the next step, why not a mod based on all the great updates to FS2 that can be based on the most sound canonical jump in the story?

Hope I don't get flamed for this as, although it isn't a simple "FS3" thread, its does share a relation.

Cheers
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Unknown Target on February 20, 2007, 06:39:05 pm
After 8 years of this community being around, don't you think something like this has already been discussed?
It has. Volition has not made any indication of what the next plot line might've been.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Nexius113 on February 20, 2007, 06:41:40 pm
Yep.  thats what i thought.  but volition never released the author's name?  or was he in the credits?
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Goober5000 on February 20, 2007, 07:37:57 pm
The main story writer for FS2 was Jason Scott.  The guy who came up with the FS Universe was Adam Pletcher.

Mike Kulas, the president of Volition, has this (http://volitionwatch.com/interviews/mku_interview.php) to say about the storyline for FS3...

Quote
If you catch Jason Scott wandering the streets clutching a bottle of scotch screaming wildly into the night…eventually you'll learn. Hope? There is hope. Will there be satisfaction? I don't know.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Charismatic on February 20, 2007, 10:38:06 pm
:welcome:
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Nexius113 on February 20, 2007, 11:02:42 pm
thanks  :)

ah...what an end...err...of sorts.  its just too bad he never made his way to this place...i'm sure there would've been a lot questions put to rest.  but, thats why this place has a lot of writers too.  thanks for the info Goob.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: G0atmaster on February 20, 2007, 11:35:36 pm
how do you know Goob isn't him... in disguise?  :p

Oh, whoops! You're already in this thread!  Sorry mr. mission designer sir... Please don't put your Bosch mask back on and send me to another battle where I need to kill 5 Lucifers in 50 seconds or get toasted by a supernova...  Cuz I already beat that one... but don't wanna do it again...  :shaking:
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: aldo_14 on February 21, 2007, 05:51:32 am
The main story writer for FS2 was Jason Scott.  The guy who came up with the FS Universe was Adam Pletcher.

Mike Kulas, the president of Volition, has this (http://volitionwatch.com/interviews/mku_interview.php) to say about the storyline for FS3...

Quote
If you catch Jason Scott wandering the streets clutching a bottle of scotch screaming wildly into the night…eventually you'll learn. Hope? There is hope. Will there be satisfaction? I don't know.

So what you're saying is, we should all start sending Jason Scott bottles of Glenfiddich?
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Bob-san on February 21, 2007, 01:39:07 pm
Actually...

We should all find out Jason Scott's address and start sending him bottles of Glenfiddich... we have to know where he lives so we can find out what the plan for FS3 is!

I'm sure after about 2 bottles, he'll be FAR past drunk...
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Nexius113 on February 21, 2007, 03:27:22 pm
haha, yeah that was what I was thinking from the start.  to at least get some idea about where it was going and then if only that much have the community go from there.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: TrashMan on February 21, 2007, 03:53:13 pm
no really..people should try to find out his e-mail adress... Then we can start spamming! :lol:
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Bob-san on February 21, 2007, 04:29:41 pm
Spamming is never a good way to win favor... unless you're in the US Congress!! :lol:

Someone ought to follow him home after a press conference with THQ...
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: TrashMan on February 21, 2007, 04:50:02 pm
And then what? Threathen him at gunpoint for the FS3 plot?
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Bob-san on February 21, 2007, 04:54:05 pm
No... threaten to post where he lives on a community?
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: neoterran on February 21, 2007, 05:26:17 pm
if it's not :v: then it ain't never gon' be FS3
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Snail on February 21, 2007, 05:35:10 pm
Well it is :v:.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Bob-san on February 21, 2007, 05:44:13 pm
Not :v: officially, but it's :v:'s employee. We could at least get Freespace 3 Beta from Jason Scott... wait for :v: to catch-up.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: S-99 on February 22, 2007, 06:03:07 am
There was a f*** s*** 3 beta? Or is this just rumor?
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: BlackDove on February 22, 2007, 06:40:45 am
I have to say that I would hate to be Jason or Pletcher in the engulfing scenario that is the history of Freespace.

Imagine if you built a world from scratch, made two games for it, and it is a story many enjoy and a game many played, and want to hear more about, but it turns out because of money and corporate maleficence you can't talk about it or build on it anymore (even though you came up with it and it's yours - just not on legal paper).

That has to be the worst thing any accomplished writer can face.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Goober5000 on February 22, 2007, 12:02:26 pm
Yeah. :(
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Bob-san on February 22, 2007, 12:17:54 pm
*Starts a manhunt for Jason Scott* :lol:
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: G0atmaster on February 22, 2007, 12:34:13 pm
too bad Scott's one of the most common last names in the US...
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Bob-san on February 22, 2007, 02:28:40 pm
Jason is up there for first names, too.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: neoterran on February 22, 2007, 03:57:35 pm
Well, if i were him i'd come over here under a psudonym and get some Fredders and do up a campaign based on the ideas for Freespace 3, only just never say it is as such.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: BlackDove on February 22, 2007, 04:10:48 pm
I wouldn't do that. I'd just try and put it behind me.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: diceman111 on February 22, 2007, 04:13:15 pm
Well, if i were him i'd come over here under a psudonym and get some Fredders and do up a campaign based on the ideas for Freespace 3, only just never say it is as such.

How do you know he hasent already done that  :nervous:  :nervous:  :nervous:
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Bob-san on February 22, 2007, 04:19:38 pm
That could be cool... maybe he did Inferno? lol
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: diceman111 on February 22, 2007, 04:22:24 pm
Or derelict
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: karajorma on February 23, 2007, 10:09:55 am
Or 2nd Great War.


Well maybe not.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Grizzly on February 24, 2007, 02:13:10 pm
Thats one Idea, let Jason write a campaign script, and let Goober fred it!
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: BlackDove on February 24, 2007, 03:12:48 pm
That could be cool... maybe he did Inferno? lol

If he did, he went completely insane.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: jr2 on February 24, 2007, 03:23:49 pm
http://www.volition-inc.com/Staff/JasonScott
http://www.volition-inc.com/Staff/AdamPletcher
-send a polite request line?:
[email protected]
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: BlackDove on February 24, 2007, 04:31:29 pm
****. No.

Do not send them ANYTHING. EVER.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: achtung on February 24, 2007, 06:19:38 pm
Pleading for a story will do no good at all.  It's up to him if he wants to release it.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Bob-san on February 25, 2007, 08:17:12 pm
NEVER send them anything; the most luck we've had is a "possibly" on original HTL models of ships... they like the fact that a game they made about 9 years ago still has an active community with, well, activity! The best thing we could do is wait it out for now... if any of us are lucky enough to meet anyone from :v:, then it might be OK to ask about Freespace 1/2/3... perhaps we could get a good rough storyline out of Mr. Scott, and implement it in a community-wide project, similar to Derelict or Inferno in proportion.

Heck... we should organize a Freespace Convention... :lol: your civic centre or mine?
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: EAD_Agamemnon on February 25, 2007, 09:47:40 pm
That could be cool... maybe he did Inferno? lol

Of all the mods for this game. INFERNO is probably the closest we will ever get to our beloved FS3.
Into the Depths of Hell which is the story of those trapped on the OTHER side of Capella in a way could be seen as such...but this story here is incomplete....as only 4 of the planned 12 chapters have been completed....and they probably wont ever be completed. This leaves me feel....incomplete...the way the lack of an FS3 does.

--------------------------

I did not fear. I asked them "the QUESTION". I may not get a reply but at least they have heard.
We know that those 2 guys still work with Volition. Maybe we should start sending them fanmail by the tidal waves. Both in the form of snail mail and email...and phone.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: jr2 on February 26, 2007, 01:26:46 am
Eh, but there should be a way for them to categorize it, so maybe e-mail them and ask if there's a way for them to make an e-mail acct or something dedicated to FS fans who want more.  I dunno, something.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Janos on February 26, 2007, 12:24:30 pm
HOLY **** THERE WILL BE FREESPACE 3?!??!?!?!?!!!!!


ALL MY WET DREAMS HAVE COME TRUE
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: BlackDove on February 26, 2007, 12:33:28 pm
That could be cool... maybe he did Inferno? lol

Of all the mods for this game. INFERNO is probably the closest we will ever get to our beloved FS3.

hahahahahaha....




....ahahahahahahaha....




....hahahahahahaha....


Man I enjoyed that. Are you here all week?
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: karajorma on February 26, 2007, 12:34:38 pm
Of all the mods for this game. INFERNO is probably the closest we will ever get to our beloved FS3.

In your opinion.

Certainly not in mine. And I liked Inferno.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 26, 2007, 12:40:34 pm
Inferno is closest in spirit to FS2 itself, certainly...but really if you consider the changes between FS1 and FS2 this would make it less likely to be anything like FS3.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: BlackDove on February 26, 2007, 12:55:10 pm
Also you must consider the laws of sanity as well.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: S-99 on February 26, 2007, 07:11:55 pm
The way the weapons are in inferno r1 remind of you wishing that the beams worked like that when you actually played fs2.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Mars on February 26, 2007, 11:07:49 pm
There is a large fanon plot line out there, that started with Derelict.... I certainly wouldn't call it that, but it is quite close to what I'd expect FS3 to be.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Turey on February 27, 2007, 01:17:31 am
And I liked Inferno.

I didn't, and I still don't.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: jr2 on February 27, 2007, 01:25:51 am
Considering all we saw of Inferno was something they decided to completely redo...
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Nix on February 27, 2007, 01:49:05 am
NEVER send them anything; the most luck we've had is a "possibly" on original HTL models of ships... they like the fact that a game they made about 9 years ago still has an active community with, well, activity! The best thing we could do is wait it out for now... if any of us are lucky enough to meet anyone from :v:, then it might be OK to ask about Freespace 1/2/3... perhaps we could get a good rough storyline out of Mr. Scott, and implement it in a community-wide project, similar to Derelict or Inferno in proportion.

Heck... we should organize a Freespace Convention... :lol: your civic centre or mine?

Ahem...
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,43106.0.html

Though I doubt they'd be giving out anything related to story.  That's Intellectual Property that belongs to Jason, Adam, V, THQ, even Interplay, and not to be released to the public domain.  At least you can copyright an HTL model, or a piece of music.  Taking someone's story, changing a few things around, then taking credit for yourself is all too easy.

Seriously, you're still... STILL going on about FS3? Ay, mios Dio..  :blah: 
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: S-99 on February 27, 2007, 04:26:43 am
Inferno was really mostly a patchwork of fs1 and fs2, with a couple of filler ins for what would be thought to be fs3. Fs1, the shivans come out of nowhere suddenly. Fs2, having a civil war, and fighting the shivans. Fs3, a knossos to earth was built, and gtva has more efficient beams.
I can see why perhaps they wanted to redo the story. It was fun gameplay, but the whole grim story line thing wasn't there at all. It was like the damn shivans aren't able to kick ass anymore. Inferno was so non-fs, it really turned me away from it, derelict was a lot better. But, inferno alliance looks great and i need to give it a try, and i'm waiting eagerly for the revamped inferno r2 (besides the new ships, i hope the story is better).
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: jr2 on February 27, 2007, 05:18:50 pm
Well, INF was supposed to have five chapters... FS and FS2 both started easy... ;7
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: BlackDove on February 27, 2007, 05:27:18 pm
(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6739/picardfacepalmkh2uc7.jpg)
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Cobra on February 27, 2007, 09:34:41 pm
Indeed, can we shut up about FS3 now? We all know it's not gonna happen, so it'd be nice if everyone would stop bickering about it.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Nuclear1 on February 27, 2007, 09:42:16 pm
Well, INF was supposed to have five chapters... FS and FS2 both started easy... ;7

*quoted for reference, nothing against you personally, jr, you just happen to be the most recent post with this sort of content*

Let's just summarize this and make it easy for everyone:

Inferno is not, I repeat, is not FS3. Just because it happens to have one of the largest fanbases and is one of the most ambitious of all user-made projects, it does not mean that it is FS3 anymore than Derelict, Deep Blood, The Centaur Project, or Warzone is FS3.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Turey on February 27, 2007, 10:52:41 pm
Well, INF was supposed to have five chapters... FS and FS2 both started easy... ;7

*quoted for reference, nothing against you personally, jr, you just happen to be the most recent post with this sort of content*

Let's just summarize this and make it easy for everyone:

Inferno is not, I repeat, is not FS3. Just because it happens to have one of the largest fanbases and is one of the most ambitious of all user-made projects, it does not mean that it is FS3 anymore than Derelict, Deep Blood, The Centaur Project, or Warzone is FS3.

Thank you.  :) :yes:

It's amazing how often this is gotten wrong.
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Mars on February 27, 2007, 11:21:30 pm
No offense to the author... but Inferno is rather overrated IMHO
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: jr2 on February 28, 2007, 02:05:22 am
Eh, :wtf: I wasn't saying Inferno was FS3.
I was saying, you can't say its missing the sense of desperation in FS1/2 when it was only 1/5th finished...
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: S-99 on February 28, 2007, 06:18:15 am
Should i say again what i already said about inferno r1 in this thread ;7
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: jr2 on February 28, 2007, 10:11:51 am
:confused:
...why? :wtf:
Okay, now someone please take a look at my posts, and let me know where I gave anyone the impression that Inferno was FS3... good luck, you won't find it.  :p
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: Polpolion on February 28, 2007, 03:23:05 pm
:confused:
...why? :wtf:
Okay, now someone please take a look at my posts, and let me know where I gave anyone the impression that Inferno was FS3... good luck, you won't find it.  :p

I didn't see anything. Although I didn't quite understand what you mean by "FS and FS2 both started easy".
Title: Re: Freespace plot
Post by: jr2 on February 28, 2007, 03:30:53 pm
FS... blowing Vasudans away was not exactly hard.
FS2... NTF is the only authorit-zap!  Not hard either.

In both cases, the Shivans came to relieve us of our hubris.