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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Sushi mk. 2 on January 16, 2002, 10:14:00 am
Look what I found. (//"http://forums.shatteredstar.com/user-cgi/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002384")  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Silly? Yes. But that doesn't matter. FS2 seems to be winning, and that's the side I take simply because I can't get D3 to run multiplayer properly anymore.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Enjoy!
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Nico on January 16, 2002, 10:36:00 am
It's completly biased, but anyway: someone to tell this guy  (blue thing) how many different kinds of nuke and antimater weapons there is in FS, and the fact that ammo based weapons are supposed to do nohing to FS shields?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: CP5670 on January 16, 2002, 10:42:00 am
hahaha...die blueflames...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (I am one of the pro-FS debaters there  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif))

[This message has been edited by CP5670 (edited 01-16-2002).]
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Ace on January 16, 2002, 05:43:00 pm
Bah! MW4 v.s. Tribes 2? Heck in the Tribes 2 plot they mention how teams take down HERCs which are like Mechs but with more armor, shield generators, and much higher speeds  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: WMCoolmon on January 16, 2002, 06:07:00 pm
Tribes 2 had a plot?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Nico on January 16, 2002, 06:21:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Ace:
Bah! MW4 v.s. Tribes 2? Heck in the Tribes 2 plot they mention how teams take down HERCs which are like Mechs but with more armor, shield generators, and much higher speeds   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)


I could never see the link between earth/starsiege and tribes...
Reminds me I always wanted to try earthsiege, gonna try to find it (yes, I know, it's damn old, and so what? )

Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: CP5670 on January 16, 2002, 06:38:00 pm
The argument continues... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (that topic just gained a few more posts)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Sandwich on January 16, 2002, 07:03:00 pm
He doesn't know jack about antimatter...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 16, 2002, 07:07:00 pm
It's funny how no forum argument, however trivial, ever arrives at consensus, conclusion, or even the introduction of new facts... basically these guys have been rephrasing their first few posts over and over again... if I could be bothered to become a member, I'd love to introduce the fact that a Ravanna in a nebula could burn half these D3 boys in an instant, as could about 30 Alastors in a blockade... but then they'd just say something stupid about their treasured Blackshark. Ah well.

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Nico on January 16, 2002, 07:19:00 pm
yeah, and they forget a damn lot of things, mmh, I would say, on purpose... How many Blacksharks can the GL carry, mmh? mmh? hehe.
How fast those ships are? damn, even the phoenix is slow, if you out it in open space like it is in freespace. Sniping a fs2 ship with the big gun (don't remember the name), is fairly impossible, it seems there's no newby in D3, but FS2 guys are all newbies that fly straight, like begging to be killed. All those weapons on the pyros, it's great, but first, it's not realistic, second, D3 is a shoot em up, third, they are all ammo based. All, even the lasers. If they run out of ammos, babye!  Plus morons that can't argue w/o saying stuff like "are you dumb or just mentaly retarded?" just prove one thing: their arguments are as biaised as this thread, and not even worthy discussing with them.
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 16, 2002, 07:28:00 pm
It's a forum argument. Macho posturing by nerds. We all do it *cough*StarCraft*cough*.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Vertigo1 on January 16, 2002, 11:34:00 pm
As much as I like D3...none of the weapons are even near kt level yields.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)  The shields are extremely sensitive to projectile weapons (namely the vauss and mass driver) show that a single AAA beam would vaporize any of the smaller craft with ease.  Hell, the Pyro GX (one of the most heavily armed craft in Descent) has a max speed that is slower than the any of the bombs in Freespace! (55mph if memory serves)

Freespace2 ownerz D3.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: CP5670 on January 17, 2002, 01:51:00 am
Just posted another one there; Blueflames appears to be bringing his PlanetDescent people to fight for him, so why don't some of you pop up on there and show these D3 guys how wrong they are...

   
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He doesn't know jack about antimatter...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)

LOL I noticed, so I put up another reply making it a bit clearer...

[This message has been edited by CP5670 (edited 01-16-2002).]
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Kamikaze on January 17, 2002, 02:58:00 am
YOu know we can end the discussion with just this: Supernova (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: CP5670 on January 17, 2002, 04:02:00 am
Ah yes, forgot about the supernova. I'm going to bring that up in my next post then... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Nico on January 17, 2002, 05:34:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Stryke 9:
It's a forum argument. Macho posturing by nerds. We all do it *cough*StarCraft*cough*.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

well, we didn't insult each other  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Sushi mk. 2 on January 17, 2002, 01:20:00 pm
 
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It's a forum argument. Macho posturing by nerds. We all do it *cough*StarCraft*cough*.
Exactly. Lots of fun!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

I gotta admit, in any given 1v1 dogfight, I'd have to hand it to the D3 ships, simply because they would be able to outmanouver by virtue of sliding. Of course, once you bring in something as simple as an Aeolus... not only would flak toast any one of them, but the beams would ignore their shields and blast right through the nonexistent armor.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Nico on January 17, 2002, 01:53:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Sushi mk. 2:
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It's a forum argument. Macho posturing by nerds. We all do it *cough*StarCraft*cough*.
Exactly. Lots of fun!   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

I gotta admit, in any given 1v1 dogfight, I'd have to hand it to the D3 ships, simply because they would be able to outmanouver by virtue of sliding. Of course, once you bring in something as simple as an Aeolus... not only would flak toast any one of them, but the beams would ignore their shields and blast right through the nonexistent armor.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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I love D3, but I bet for FS2 ships: D3 ships are too damn slow, they won't even be able to avoid FS2 shots.

Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Inquisitor on January 17, 2002, 02:46:00 pm
Hehe, well, don't be afraid to pop over and give it a (clean) voice.

we're nice folks, maybe as totalitarian in our moderation as your HLP hosts here, but nice nonetheless.

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Nico on January 17, 2002, 03:01:00 pm
mmh, clans... Mplayer  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
I played D3 once in player, I was with my 56K then. Ouch, I played only one minute, died countless times  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Blue Lion on January 17, 2002, 10:23:00 pm
Hey like Quiz says, we aren't your average clan, and we need some FS2 guys to tell them what's what  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: CP5670 on January 17, 2002, 11:28:00 pm
Take that you D3 people! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (just posted another one)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Kamikaze on January 18, 2002, 12:44:00 am
 Another one of my arguments... prolly sick of em (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) The D3 guys seem to be bit overating their shields...

Go help the FS2 side... show your allegiance (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Vertigo1 on January 18, 2002, 11:58:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Kamikaze:
Another one of my arguments... prolly sick of em  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) The D3 guys seem to be bit overating their shields...

Go help the FS2 side... show your allegiance  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)


No kidding.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)  Just give me an AK-47 and I'll shoot down half a dozen D3 ships.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)


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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Dranon on January 18, 2002, 12:31:00 pm
I've never played D3... i think i would suck at it anyways  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Anyways, what about nebulas?  You can't hit what you can't see...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
That would keep those lousy rail guns they keep talking about out of play...
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Nico on January 18, 2002, 12:36:00 pm
they don't even have radars  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: ZylonBane on January 18, 2002, 04:03:00 pm
I wish CP5670 would stop embarassing us by insisting that anti-matter only destroys identical regular matter. Dude... you're wrong. If anti-peanut butter ran into some chocolate, there'd be an explosion. Antimatter is not at the molecular or even atomic level. It's at the subatomic level... protons, neutrons, and electrons.

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 18, 2002, 04:18:00 pm
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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: CP5670 on January 18, 2002, 11:28:00 pm
Looks like there are more replies there; time to put up another quoting post... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

 
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I wish CP5670 would stop embarassing us by insisting that anti-matter only destroys identical regular matter. Dude... you're wrong. If anti-peanut butter ran into some chocolate, there'd be an explosion. Antimatter is not at the molecular or even atomic level. It's at the subatomic level... protons, neutrons, and electrons.

uh...Zylon, you should really go read up on your physics before stating that. Antimatter exhibits most of the same properties of matter but has exactly opposite energy charges and quantum number values, so to create this annihilation effect all of the opposite values must line up and "cancel out", so to speak. (some uncharged force-carrier particles such as photons or gluons are also produced in some reactions) For example, the collision of an electron and an anti-omega baryon would have no real effect.
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Setekh on January 19, 2002, 01:05:00 am
So, whaddya say guys? Should we go and invade some BBs?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Edit: Oh, I actually read that thread... I think I'm going to have a headache...

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Blue Lion on January 19, 2002, 01:10:00 am
Yes, please come on over

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Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: WMCoolmon on January 19, 2002, 01:14:00 am
Ever noticed just how small Descent ships are...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: CP5670 on January 19, 2002, 01:27:00 am
 
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Edit: Oh, I actually read that thread... I think I'm going to have a headache...

lol (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: Nico on January 19, 2002, 06:37:00 am
 
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon:
Ever noticed just how small Descent ships are...   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

yes: the size of a big car  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)
Oh, should I mention the erynies and its 8 gunpoints firing at the same time, and would vaporize D3 shields in 2 seconds?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: CP5670 on January 19, 2002, 11:15:00 am
Yeah I keep telling Blueflames that D3 ships are significantly smaller than the smallest FS2 fighters... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Semi OT- FS2 vs Descent 3 thread
Post by: ZylonBane on January 19, 2002, 02:20:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by CP5670:
For example, the collision of an electron and an anti-omega baryon would have no real effect.
To which I would reply, "So what?". We're talking about making things go Boom, not creating 100%-efficient mutual annihilation reactions. So long as the weapon payload is comprised of anti-matter couterparts to a *common* subatomic particle type, you're going to get a big hole in your target.

Note that in discussions of antimatter storage, it is never suggested to simply construct the container out of different material than the antimatter itself.

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