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Title: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on February 23, 2007, 04:41:58 pm
Any thoughts, suggestions?

(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9308/vasshiphybridxo9.th.jpg) (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vasshiphybridxo9.jpg)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: diceman111 on February 23, 2007, 04:43:19 pm
Looking good ......
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Raven2001 on February 23, 2007, 04:49:36 pm
erm and why is this in the FSU forum exactly? :P
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on February 23, 2007, 05:19:00 pm
Sorry, but I think it looks very ugly. It's like the bastard child of a Typhon and a Demon, and it shows. Horribly. If this was created without Shivan parts, it is horrible...


BUT


If the HOL was trying to make a Typhon more powerful by getting destroyed parts from parts of a Demon, it's definately a great model.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on February 23, 2007, 05:22:38 pm
Quote from: Raven2001 on February 23, 2007, 04:49:36 pm
erm and why is this in the FSU forum exactly? :P

I though something looekd strange....LOL
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Raven2001 on February 23, 2007, 06:07:50 pm
Quote from: Snail on February 23, 2007, 05:19:00 pm
If the HOL was trying to make a Typhon more powerful by getting destroyed parts from parts of a Demon, it's definately a great model.

But in that case you gotta secure a more "retrofit" look on it, cause atm it looks like all is the same
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on February 23, 2007, 06:13:00 pm
This isn't supposed to be a retrofit, but rather a shivan inspired vasudan design... I'm still tweaking it b.t.w. :D
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 23, 2007, 08:29:30 pm
The only thing about the design I'm not a fan of, is the spoilers and spikes... the big ones.  I'm not saying that I don't think that they should be there, I'm just saying that I think that they're a little too prominent.  I was gonna suggest sloping them inwards more, but the thought just occurred to me that you might want to go against the traditional Demon configuration of ventral spikes, and instead have them angled outwards and chunkier, sort of like echoes of the nose "teeth" portions.  This applies to both the rear-most ventral spikes, and the mid-position ones... IMO.  I'd also suggest making the dorsal spoiler somewhat chunkier.  That is, take the front of it, and move it forward, then take the rear of them and stretch it towards the back of the craft, so they appear more sloped.  It may necessitate making the tail end of the ship a little longer.

That said, these are my simple suggestions, and nothing binding.  Make it YOUR way, and make it YOUR ship.  :yes:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Taristin on February 23, 2007, 11:21:01 pm
Erm. it doesnt look like a hybrid. it looks like a hodgepodge... :s
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Janos on February 24, 2007, 02:20:35 am
Oh gods, it's ugly
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on February 24, 2007, 07:50:01 am
Quote from: Trivial Psychic on February 23, 2007, 08:29:30 pm
The only thing about the design I'm not a fan of, is the spoilers and spikes... the big ones.  I'm not saying that I don't think that they should be there, I'm just saying that I think that they're a little too prominent.  I was gonna suggest sloping them inwards more, but the thought just occurred to me that you might want to go against the traditional Demon configuration of ventral spikes, and instead have them angled outwards and chunkier, sort of like echoes of the nose "teeth" portions.  This applies to both the rear-most ventral spikes, and the mid-position ones... IMO.  I'd also suggest making the dorsal spoiler somewhat chunkier.  That is, take the front of it, and move it forward, then take the rear of them and stretch it towards the back of the craft, so they appear more sloped.  It may necessitate making the tail end of the ship a little longer.

That said, these are my simple suggestions, and nothing binding.  Make it YOUR way, and make it YOUR ship.  :yes:

Interesting suggestions. I was meaning to make the spoiler more stretched anyway :D
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Raven2001 on February 24, 2007, 08:49:08 am
Quote from: TrashMan on February 23, 2007, 06:13:00 pm
This isn't supposed to be a retrofit, but rather a shivan inspired vasudan design... I'm still tweaking it b.t.w. :D

Then in that case might I suggest that you start from scratch? Do something that looks distinguished from the rest, coz atm it looks too much like a Typhon and Demon offspring

Is good as an experiment, but imo it lacks a distinguished look that it is a new design. Something vasudan and shivan, but that doesnt resemble ships we already know :)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Polpolion on February 24, 2007, 03:00:45 pm
I like it :nervous: ...
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on February 24, 2007, 04:03:23 pm
Quote from: Raven2001 on February 24, 2007, 08:49:08 am
Then in that case might I suggest that you start from scratch? Do something that looks distinguished from the rest, coz atm it looks too much like a Typhon and Demon offspring

A bastard child of a typhon and demon. That was the base idea ;7
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on February 24, 2007, 04:05:13 pm
Quote from: Snail on February 23, 2007, 05:19:00 pm
It's like the bastard child of a Typhon and a Demon.

I said that...
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Taristin on February 24, 2007, 05:09:47 pm
But it doesnt look like a child. It looks like there was a demon and a typhon beside eachother when capella went boom boom boom boom in its room.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Dark Hunter on February 24, 2007, 09:23:58 pm
I think it looks good... but it had better be well-textured...

/me imagines the juxtaposition of Typhon textures and Demon textures...
  :nervous:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: spartan_0214 on February 24, 2007, 09:43:06 pm
Looks Covenant-ish. We'll see how it maps out.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on February 25, 2007, 05:20:50 am
Quote from: Dark Hunter on February 24, 2007, 09:23:58 pm
I think it looks good... but it had better be well-textured...

/me imagines the juxtaposition of Typhon textures and Demon textures...
  :nervous:

Yeah, I'll have to doctor some vvasudan and sivan textures... mostly re-colouring..

How does a purpleish or greenish window glow/ basic hull hue sound?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on February 25, 2007, 11:00:22 am
I hate any ship with a green hue. 'cept Borg ships, then it's okay.

Just not in FS. 'cept Borg ships, then it's okay.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Trivial Psychic on February 25, 2007, 10:39:01 pm
For the main hull, how about using a modified version of the Vasudan Typhon texture?  Just change the window color to Shivan red, and change the brown with a dull armored steel look.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on February 26, 2007, 05:23:14 am
That's what I was thinkinkig...was just not sure about the hue...

and also edited demon textures..or luci textures... has to have a bit of a plated look on a few spots :D
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Bobboau on February 26, 2007, 05:50:57 am
hey do you think you could make the front of the HTL Typhon more like this one?

not quite as tall, but the general, recessed bridge thing could work REALY well.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: S-99 on February 26, 2007, 08:00:25 am
This ship makes sense on the bounds that vasudans do like to reduplicate shivan designs. You know what i'm talking about mentioning the sekhmet.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: aldo_14 on February 26, 2007, 10:03:08 am
It looks like a Demon taking a Typhon up the tailpipe.

Ummm, to be honest I think Hybrids should really combine aesthetic features of a species into the existing style of 'borrower' or dominant species, rather than - for example - slapping spiky bits on and calling it Shivan.  That said, I'm waiting to see this textured - the front does look interesting.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on February 26, 2007, 04:17:56 pm
Quote from: Bobboau on February 26, 2007, 05:50:57 am
hey do you think you could make the front of the HTL Typhon more like this one?

not quite as tall, but the general, recessed bridge thing could work REALY well.

I think the purists would kill me :LOL:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: jr2 on February 26, 2007, 04:28:19 pm
Quote from: Janos on February 24, 2007, 02:20:35 am
Oh gods, it's ugly
And the Demon was pretty...
:lol:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Raven2001 on February 26, 2007, 05:07:14 pm
Quote from: TrashMan on February 26, 2007, 04:17:56 pm
I think the purists would kill me :LOL:

For once... FROGET THE PURISTS :P

Heck "they cant even decide if they wana take a piss, let alone pick a pot to piss in" :P (in honour of Fallout <- OT ^^ )

Really, toldya once, ill tell it again: you certainly have the modeling skill, but what I see from your HTL models is that you chain yourself TOO much into the purists will... let the creativity flow :)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Zacam on March 01, 2007, 07:24:48 pm
Besides, it's not like this is a canon ship or anything.

This is an experimental idea. So experiment.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Darklord42 on March 01, 2007, 07:44:28 pm
they are talking about modifying elements of his typhoon which is a cannon ship :D
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Zacam on March 01, 2007, 07:46:51 pm
But the concept of the hybrid is not. Doesn't matter what pieces of who that it's using.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: NGTM-1R on March 01, 2007, 08:51:05 pm
It had better deploy wings of Sekhmets, and that's all I'm going to say.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Gregster2k on March 02, 2007, 02:35:05 am
Is that a Vasudan Hades?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mefustae on March 02, 2007, 03:15:36 am
It's a Dephon!!
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Quote from: Mefustae on March 02, 2007, 03:15:36 am
It's a Dephon!!

Typhoid
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mars on March 02, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Quote from: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Typhoid

 :lol:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on March 05, 2007, 03:09:39 pm
Quote from: Mars on March 02, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Quote from: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Typhoid

 :lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Aardwolf on March 09, 2007, 11:58:07 pm
Quote from: Snail on March 05, 2007, 03:09:39 pm
Quote from: Mars on March 02, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Quote from: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Typhoid

 :lol:

:lol:

:lol:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on March 10, 2007, 08:57:17 am
Quote from: Aardwolf on March 09, 2007, 11:58:07 pm
Quote from: Snail on March 05, 2007, 03:09:39 pm
Quote from: Mars on March 02, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Quote from: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Typhoid

 :lol:

:lol:

:lol:
:lol:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Kaine on March 10, 2007, 10:31:58 am
Quote from: Harbinger of DOOM on March 10, 2007, 08:57:17 am
Quote from: Aardwolf on March 09, 2007, 11:58:07 pm
Quote from: Snail on March 05, 2007, 03:09:39 pm
Quote from: Mars on March 02, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Quote from: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Typhoid

 :lol:

:lol:

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Slime on March 10, 2007, 11:52:33 am
Quote from: Kaine on March 10, 2007, 10:31:58 am
Quote from: Harbinger of DOOM on March 10, 2007, 08:57:17 am
Quote from: Aardwolf on March 09, 2007, 11:58:07 pm
Quote from: Snail on March 05, 2007, 03:09:39 pm
Quote from: Mars on March 02, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Quote from: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Typhoid

 :lol:

:lol:

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
  ::)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Trivial Psychic on March 10, 2007, 12:08:57 pm
Can we get back on topic please?  Any progress TrashMan?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on March 10, 2007, 12:13:48 pm
Quote from: Slime on March 10, 2007, 11:52:33 am
Quote from: Kaine on March 10, 2007, 10:31:58 am
Quote from: Harbinger of DOOM on March 10, 2007, 08:57:17 am
Quote from: Aardwolf on March 09, 2007, 11:58:07 pm
Quote from: Snail on March 05, 2007, 03:09:39 pm
Quote from: Mars on March 02, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Quote from: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Typhoid

 :lol:

:lol:

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
  ::)

I knew someone would do that. But I expected Taristin. :)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on March 10, 2007, 05:00:35 pm
Some...but I don't think it's postworthy...mah..what the hell....here:

(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7258/vasshiphybrid2lb5.th.jpg) (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vasshiphybrid2lb5.jpg)

I'll prolly shorten the forward "arms" quite a bit...

b.t.w. - you think a purpleish hue is better than an orange one or a green one?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mobius on March 10, 2007, 05:08:29 pm
Quote from: Snail on March 10, 2007, 12:13:48 pm
Quote from: Slime on March 10, 2007, 11:52:33 am
Quote from: Kaine on March 10, 2007, 10:31:58 am
Quote from: Harbinger of DOOM on March 10, 2007, 08:57:17 am
Quote from: Aardwolf on March 09, 2007, 11:58:07 pm
Quote from: Snail on March 05, 2007, 03:09:39 pm
Quote from: Mars on March 02, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Quote from: Janos on March 02, 2007, 11:54:26 am
Typhoid

 :lol:

:lol:

:lol:
:lol:
:lol:
  ::)

I knew someone would do that. But I expected Taristin. :)

:lol:


Ok, enough now...

Quote from: TrashMan on March 10, 2007, 05:00:35 pm
Some...but I don't think it's postworthy...mah..what the hell....here:

[IMG]
b.t.w. - you think a purpleish hue is better than an orange one or a green one?
 (http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vasshiphybrid2lb5.jpg)

Purple would be ok...
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Sarafan on March 10, 2007, 05:14:39 pm
As usual, what are its weapons? IMO it would be great if it had 4 anticap beams, two on the front (on each side of it's ''head''), one at the lower fin and the last at the top, it would have a great coverage, really nice work! :yes:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on March 10, 2007, 05:31:12 pm
it looks like a ravana combined witha hectate  :D
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Dark Hunter on March 10, 2007, 11:29:23 pm
Purple  >  Orange or Green.

@takashi:

Where do you see a Hecate in there?

Oh maybe I see it... never mind.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mobius on March 11, 2007, 08:39:05 pm
I see a Typhon combined with the Iksura(Vasudan+Shivan, it's ok).
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on March 11, 2007, 08:58:16 pm
now i see an evil hectate with arms....ever thought of making it an animated robot, with moving arms
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: jr2 on March 11, 2007, 08:59:16 pm
:wtf: this isn't MechWarrior, this is FreeSpace
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on March 11, 2007, 10:32:30 pm
you allways have room for innovation
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Turey on March 11, 2007, 10:39:26 pm
Quote from: takashi on March 11, 2007, 10:32:30 pm
you allways have room for innovation

Not when it has to crowd out sanity.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on March 11, 2007, 10:53:37 pm
tell that to nintendo.

and i see no reason why the HoL would make cruisers with moving parts. think sathanas, with the big quad-spike rotating.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Sarafan on March 11, 2007, 10:57:56 pm
Quote from: LieutenantGeneralMobius on March 11, 2007, 08:39:05 pm
I see a Typhon combined with the Iksura(Vasudan+Shivan, it's ok).

Iksura? :confused:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: jr2 on March 11, 2007, 11:41:43 pm
Quote from: takashi on March 11, 2007, 10:53:37 pm
tell that to nintendo.

and i see no reason why the HoL would make cruisers with moving parts. think sathanas, with the big quad-spike rotating.
Why'd you have to use the Sathanas?  Haven't you watched the ending cutscene to FS2?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on March 12, 2007, 09:13:05 pm
no.

1: i havent finished the main campaing (too busy with mods)
2: i dont have the files yet.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: jr2 on March 13, 2007, 01:54:17 am
FS2 End Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qiWAgQeAVY) on YouTube.  Low-Res, but hey...
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on March 15, 2007, 10:01:48 pm
SPOILER!

say, is the NGVSCv (neo-galatic-vasudan-shivan-correvette) thingy skinned yet? i wanna see what a vasudan-shivan texture looks like.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: jr2 on March 15, 2007, 10:12:29 pm
Quote from: takashi on March 15, 2007, 10:01:48 pm
SPOILER!
Hey, I didn't take over your mouse... :p
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on March 16, 2007, 03:24:10 am
 :wtf:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on March 17, 2007, 07:45:06 pm
has jr2 caused a spam chain with a link to youtube!? i think so. so back the the sobek/hectate/demon/thingy!

hows the progress going?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: jr2 on March 17, 2007, 07:45:55 pm
:p
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: BS403 on March 23, 2007, 06:00:56 pm
:bump:
Any updates?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on March 23, 2007, 07:30:46 pm
No.
I'm lazy. :pimp:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Hades on April 23, 2007, 10:42:04 am
Any updates? :tumbleweed:

I would also like to try to texture it if you would let me.

Edit:I can also do subsystems to or/and guns.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on April 23, 2007, 12:37:28 pm
Quote from: LieutenantGeneralMobius on March 11, 2007, 08:39:05 pm
I see a Typhon combined with the Iksura(Vasudan+Shivan, it's ok).

The SFr Iksura is a Shivan Freighter in Inferno Alliance. It's a very big bulk freighter with many turrets.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on April 23, 2007, 09:45:40 pm
and its a pain to take down.

any updates trashman?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Dysko on April 24, 2007, 12:58:05 am
Quote from: takashi on April 23, 2007, 09:45:40 pm
and its a pain to take down.
:wtf:
How can you know that? You don't have INFA internal access.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on April 24, 2007, 05:44:09 am
ERm.....aah...

Some small progress...I was busy with some other stuff (read - exams and Allegiance), but I'll finalze the mesh soon.

And Hades, I might take you up on that offer :D
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on April 24, 2007, 05:08:22 pm
Quote from: Darth DySkO on April 24, 2007, 12:58:05 am
Quote from: takashi on April 23, 2007, 09:45:40 pm
and its a pain to take down.
:wtf:
How can you know that? You don't have INFA internal access.

it was described by certain...friends....
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Unknown Target on April 24, 2007, 09:13:06 pm
You have friends?

Interesting model Trashman, not too big on the giant loop in the back though - it doesn't blend well with the rest of the model.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on April 24, 2007, 09:32:59 pm
it looks like a demon booty.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Unknown Target on April 24, 2007, 09:37:04 pm
...Except that's the Demon's rear end, not the Ravana's.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on April 25, 2007, 03:49:55 am
To tell the truth I felt a typhon-demon mix would end up better than a typhon-ravana for multiple reasons.

I'm not sure about the loop in the end myself..
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mobius on April 25, 2007, 10:00:20 am
Uh? A Typhon-Ravana is many times better than a Typhon-Demon!!!
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on April 25, 2007, 01:04:57 pm
orion-hatsheputs pwn.

oriashput!
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Dark Hunter on April 25, 2007, 07:00:42 pm
Quote from: takashi on April 25, 2007, 01:04:57 pm
orion-hatsheputs pwn.

oriashput!

Orioshepsut was freaky...  :shaking:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: spartan_0214 on April 25, 2007, 07:02:29 pm
And funny... btw, how did they invert it? Looks the same to me... 'sept the texture...
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Dark Hunter on April 25, 2007, 07:03:32 pm
Quote from: spartan_0214 on April 25, 2007, 07:02:29 pm
And funny... btw, how did they invert it? Looks the same to me... 'sept the texture...

They just made it jump in upside-down.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: spartan_0214 on April 25, 2007, 07:07:39 pm
Really Dark Hunter? What makes you think that???


apparently someone failed their sarcasm check....
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: takashi on April 26, 2007, 05:16:12 pm
because he checked the mission before making a stupid acusation and saying that it was actualy a new model. not sarcasm.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on April 27, 2007, 04:24:57 am
Why a demon mix and not a ravana? - well, it has story driven resons behind it. I can give you a mild spoiler here:

Spoiler:
The HOL engineers that designed it never saw a Ravana...[\spoiler][/color]
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on April 27, 2007, 09:06:40 am
Quote from: TrashMan on April 27, 2007, 04:24:57 am
Spoiler:
LOL[\spoiler][/color]
Oh yeahhhh!!!! :o
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 04, 2007, 01:54:54 pm
UPDATE:
(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3999/hybridxh3.th.jpg) (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hybridxh3.jpg)

*Imageshack being a *****..can't upload other screenies*

EDIT: Shouldn't this be moved to Modding forum?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Sarafan on June 04, 2007, 02:55:45 pm
Nice but shouldnt you add shivan elements to the ship's skin (just some red parts)?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 04, 2007, 03:45:42 pm
That's what glowmaps are for :D

and yeah...I'm doing the UV mapping ATM on sections, I can chgange the texture applied to them...I'm still looking for a good combo for a hybrid.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 07, 2007, 11:32:58 am
NEARING COMPLETION...need imput on texture combo:

(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2387/hybridtex1gw0.th.jpg) (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hybridtex1gw0.jpg)
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/193/hybridtex2lh1.th.jpg) (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hybridtex2lh1.jpg)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mefustae on June 07, 2007, 01:01:11 pm
I like it. Before, I wouldn't have really called it a hybrid. Whereas a hybrid is something that was engineered from the beginning, it used to look like more of a "cross-between" than something anyone would actually design and build.

But now, it actually looks like the Vasudan Navy is making a conscious effort to replicate and integrate Shivan technology onto existing designs. Definitely the right decision to go with entirely Vasudan textures, but a slight red glow here or there to denote active Shivan systems wouldn't go astray.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 07, 2007, 03:27:30 pm
red?

Well... as far as texturing goes this is a HOL ship...not a vasudan navy ship...so I was thinking maby orange or purpleish glows & beamz.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 07, 2007, 03:37:27 pm
So the HoL is purple? So that's where the color scheme for the Aten2 came from...
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 07, 2007, 03:41:20 pm
Still experimenting with teh damn colors...I'm currently fond of greenish and yellowish hues.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on June 09, 2007, 06:52:29 am
very interesting... i think a few red glows here and there but other than that go with typical vasudan colors.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Admiral Edivad on June 09, 2007, 09:21:44 am
nice model; how is it called?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 09, 2007, 02:43:17 pm
Doesn't have a name...I'm open to suggestions.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: BlueFlames on June 09, 2007, 03:21:34 pm
Ani

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_of_Ani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_of_Ani)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_the_Dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_the_Dead)

Seems like a ship capable of helping quite a few people into the afterlife.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mehrpack on June 09, 2007, 04:36:25 pm
hi,
mhh a good name isnt so easy:

imho maybe this one: Maftet, god of legal justic or execution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafdet)

or this: setech ak seth, god of death and storms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setech)

Mehrpack
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Dark Hunter on June 09, 2007, 05:12:48 pm
What about Andromalius?

Like Mafdet, he's closely linked to justice upon evil, except he's a demon, not a god.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 09, 2007, 05:18:09 pm
What about Ammit or Apep? Akh? (I like words starting with 'A')
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on June 09, 2007, 10:02:59 pm
Ahk is good... if you name that ship apep the crew members will do this too you though...

                                                              :headz:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 10, 2007, 11:35:38 am
Ani or Maftet sound nice..

b.t.w. - I'm completey done texturing it, but upong combining hte two halves in MAx all the textures were removed. Mapping is perserved tough, so it shouldn't take me too long to paint the maps back on....
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mobius on June 10, 2007, 12:22:11 pm
Maftet reminds Mafdet. Are you sure? And Ani's too short...
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 10, 2007, 12:37:19 pm
Atum?

And I agree with Mobius, Maftet is too much like Mafdet, it could cause confusion.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 10, 2007, 05:29:02 pm
Well, done fixing all the textures and she's allmsot ready to sail.

I placed many turrets on it, and the only thing left to decide (aside form the name) is where to place the beam turrets (they have a specific model).

I could place them on the sude of the head (like hte Deamon), on the forward tips of the head, or on hte lower spikey thingies or on the arm like things... Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: BS403 on June 10, 2007, 11:15:48 pm
Personally i think the lower spiky things or the side of the head would be best.
edit: but probably the side of the head to make it more demony
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: jr2 on June 11, 2007, 03:07:49 am
The sides of the jaw / face?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on June 11, 2007, 09:57:08 am
they seem too widely spaced to make it demon like...  :wtf:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 11, 2007, 10:02:40 am
Updates/ :confused:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 11, 2007, 12:04:34 pm
Tis done....but since FRED stopped working for resons unknown I can't post in-game screenies yet..

But I can give you some stats:

Length - 2351m

A total of 38 turrets (4 beam, 2 missiel turrets, 32 lighter ones)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 11, 2007, 02:04:14 pm
REJOICE BROTHERS!

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5071/screen0020kv8.th.jpg) (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen0020kv8.jpg)

(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4792/screen0023in9.th.jpg) (http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen0023in9.jpg)

(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5507/screen0022ju1.th.jpg) (http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen0022ju1.jpg)

Has only 2 LODS and 4 debris parts ATM tough.. :(
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on June 11, 2007, 07:10:08 pm
A little too vasudan for my liking. if the topic were new VASUDAN destroyer i would give you a A+ but instead as it has no red glows at all i must give you a B-, sorry but thats just my opinion. BUT as far as the modeling goes, looking beyond factions, its superb  :yes:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Dark Hunter on June 11, 2007, 08:22:51 pm
Quote from: Hellstryker on June 11, 2007, 07:10:08 pm
A little too vasudan for my liking. if the topic were new VASUDAN destroyer i would give you a A+ ...


The story goes that the Hammer of Light created it... so why are you surprised it looks Vasudan?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: S-99 on June 12, 2007, 02:17:06 am
The hol doesn't integrate shivan technology. With the sekhmet bomber for an example, they only try to take shivan designs and make them their own.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 13, 2007, 12:50:33 pm
Quote from: S-99 on June 12, 2007, 02:17:06 am
The hol doesn't integrate shivan technology. With the sekhmet bomber for an example, they only try to take shivan designs and make them their own.

One example isn't enough. It's like saying the GTI doesn't integrate technology because of the Loki.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mobius on June 13, 2007, 02:40:10 pm
Quote from: Snail on June 10, 2007, 12:37:19 pm
Atum?

It's already used for a cruiser...go to HC and check ;)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Dark Hunter on June 13, 2007, 03:57:03 pm
While we're on that subject, Mafdet has also been used for a Vasudan Cruiser.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 14, 2007, 04:57:45 am
Dammit, I think you're right....

*shakes fist*
CURSE YOU STANDARD VASUDAN NAME DOCTRINE!!!!
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: BlueFlames on June 14, 2007, 11:36:24 am
Does that mean Ani wins by default?  Woohoo!  Only acceptable candidate!
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 14, 2007, 12:00:15 pm
Unless I came  up with something else...

"Come Boy Blunder, to the Trashmobile! We got to get to the name generator in time!"

TA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA TA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA TRASHMAN!!!! :lol:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 14, 2007, 12:47:04 pm
Quote from: LieutenantGeneralMobius on June 13, 2007, 02:40:10 pm
Quote from: Snail on June 10, 2007, 12:37:19 pm
Atum?

It's already used for a cruiser...go to HC and check ;)

ORLY?

Which one? Actually, it was going to be used for the name of the 'Vasudan Supercarrier' that someone was working on.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Mehrpack on June 14, 2007, 06:35:18 pm
hi,
i think its not so the problem if to people use the same name for thiere ships, solong the shipname itsself not used by a conan ship.
yes it looks a bit strange.

but if you want to look for another name, heres a list of the gods of egypt in english:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gods_of_Egypt

and an extensive list of the gods with thiere other names in the german wiki.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ägyptische_Götter

i hope the german doesnt bother you.

Mehrpack
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 15, 2007, 07:16:49 am
Nah, I'm cool with german... thanks for the link

Hm..Seker sounds nice :D
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 15, 2007, 01:00:14 pm
Seker's used by a fighter. -_-
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 15, 2007, 01:36:24 pm
Which one?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 15, 2007, 04:32:37 pm
(http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/ntv/images/screenshots/screen11.jpg)
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Black Wolf on June 15, 2007, 05:26:50 pm
Quote from: TrashMan on June 15, 2007, 01:36:24 pm
Which one?

That would be the GVF Seker, I would assume.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 15, 2007, 06:18:27 pm
Would fit nice with my HOL Fleet...where can I get that one?...wait...that a FS1 fighter?
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 15, 2007, 06:32:25 pm
Not an FS1 fighter. Forgot who made it.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Snail on June 17, 2007, 10:20:37 am
Well actually apparently it's in the Nukemod modpack.
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: BS403 on June 22, 2007, 10:45:25 pm
So any progress?  :nervous:
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 23, 2007, 05:15:54 am
I'm lazy....hehe.

I jsut have to add 2 more lods and 2-3 more debris parts and it wil lbe ready to ship out.
I've just spent a lot of time testing it in missions to see if everythnig works OK :D
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: TrashMan on June 26, 2007, 04:09:03 pm
Tis complete...sorta..5 lods, 7 debris parts, pofed completely (except for a dock and glows)...BUT...normal PCS refused to conver becaosue of a stack overflow, so I used PCS2 aLpha, and it did convert..

Then I used normal PCS gain to import all the data and add what was missing...and when I looked at it in Modelview32 the main turrets were completely screwed! Strange, the boundin box engulf turret 01 and turret 02 alltouhg they are two differnt objects..

GAH!! Problems never end!
Title: Re: Vasudan-Shivan Hybrid (VIP)
Post by: Hades on June 27, 2007, 01:24:53 am
Quote from: TrashMan on June 26, 2007, 04:09:03 pm
GAH!! Problems never end!

Thats life for you. :P