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Hosted Projects - Standalone => Wing Commander Saga => Topic started by: EAD_Agamemnon on February 26, 2007, 01:54:18 am
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I cant get WC Saga to run at all. I get that error with the red circle/white X saying: Unable to get proper pixel format for OpenGL W32!
ALSO! oddly enough...when I install WC....FS2 wont run...it will give me the same error. When I uninstall WC...FS2 will work.
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I cant get WC Saga to run at all. I get that error with the red circle/white X saying: Unable to get proper pixel format for OpenGL W32!
ALSO! oddly enough...when I install WC....FS2 wont run...it will give me the same error. When I uninstall WC...FS2 will work.
Where are you installing WCSaga to?
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I cant get WC Saga to run at all. I get that error with the red circle/white X saying: Unable to get proper pixel format for OpenGL W32!
ALSO! oddly enough...when I install WC....FS2 wont run...it will give me the same error. When I uninstall WC...FS2 will work.
Saga writes video settings directly into registry. It sets video mode to OpenGL, resolution to 1024*768. Are you using Direct3D to play FS2?
The errors message suggests, that your GPU does not support OpenGL
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Where are you installing WCSaga to?
WCSaga is standalone like TBP. I install it into its own folder. IE FreeSpace2 is seperate. TBP is seperate....WCSaga is seperate.
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Saga writes video settings directly into registry. It sets video mode to OpenGL, resolution to 1024*768. Are you using Direct3D to play FS2?
The errors message suggests, that your GPU does not support OpenGL
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Yes I also have FS2 but its seperate
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that was not my question :)
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oops srry...i posted this just as you posted...
Yes I use Direct3D to run FS2.
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oops srry...i posted this just as you posted...
Yes I use Direct3D to run FS2.
There's your problem. FS2 and WCSaga are arguing over which video mode to use.
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I'll reinstall WCSaga and try something real quick.
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ok I got both installers set the same...now I get this error from the WCSaga launcher when I try to run it
ander Saga Prologue
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you can use your FS Open EXE and launcher. pre 3.6.9 EXE might cause some problems though. D3D is not really supported anymore. What's your gpu?
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GPU? whats that?
I copied the 5.5a launcher to my FS2 directory and got everything matching there (used 369 FSO). Now it SEEMS to work. The graphics for that opening (intro?) the colors were all solarized and I couldnt make out a single bit. I tried it in OpenGL but it didnt seem to work. I set both to Direct3D8 and it worked...though the movies might not too well.
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What graphics card do you have?
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GPU? whats that?
I copied the 5.5a launcher to my FS2 directory and got everything matching there (used 369 FSO). Now it SEEMS to work. The graphics for that opening (intro?) the colors were all solarized and I couldnt make out a single bit. I tried it in OpenGL but it didnt seem to work. I set both to Direct3D8 and it worked...though the movies might not too well.
graphics card = gpu. Most likely your drivers are outdated - use D3D only as a last option. It is not supported.
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my graphics card is a Hercules Prophet GeForce 2 64mb and up-to-date drivers is redundant since my card is on in years. Haven't had the need to replace it since its done fine for me in everything else I've had.
The last time I got any new drivers they didnt seem to like my card very much.
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Hmm... the best place to ask would be the source code forum. Not sure if GF2 is still supported,
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I doubt the GeForce2 is DirectX8.0 compatible...
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it has nothing to do with DirectX8 compatibility. Of course it is compatible with DX8, the only restriction is shader support. I have a subnotebook with an outdated intel chip (~3-4 years old) and yet I can play in OpenGL :)
Performance is, of course, pretty low. I usually get around 18 fps, even less inside a hangar.
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I get same error also.
Most games I run run also in d3d.
Now what I'M confused about IS:
1. Do i NEED to have the FS2_open.exe installed to RUN WC Saga or The original FS2 game (which i have)
OR
2. How do i fix this particular bug? Would i have to change every game ive got installed to make this compaitble with the others?
Im running an AMD Athlon64, 2200+, 1 gb ram, winxp pro sp2, DX9.1, video card is Radeon VE 7000 with 64mb SD ram, D3d & OPEN GL SUPPORTED!
Card is a few years old but runs ALL up2d8 games ive had so far in either 4mat.
Any advice would be appreaciated as im NOT a computer novice, and usually can get these things to work my self, but NOT in this instance, and im SALIVATING to play a new WC game!
Cheers Admiral!
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The problems you describe are NOT related to Wing Commander Saga, but are either
a) bad OpenGL support in the particular driver
b) Bug in the SCP code
Either way I can't do anything but to recommend to update GPU drivers. It did the trick in my case.
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The problems you describe are NOT related to Wing Commander Saga, but are either
a) bad OpenGL support in the particular driver
b) Bug in the SCP code
Either way I can't do anything but to recommend to update GPU drivers. It did the trick in my case.
Ok thanks Tolwyn Sir, I will look into this.
I got the recently released Privateer Remake, I go that to work, alothough performance is not the best.
My drivers probably are a bit old for this as this looks rather BLEEDING EDGE, as Ive had numerous video problems in XP after porting over to 64 bit architecturem NO proper OS support!
Thanks a lot.
I will inform you of what happens.
Keep up the gr8 work here.
All the gr8 games are now being done by amatuers, as NO 1 seems to be doing space sims anymore.
Cheers!
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that does explain a lot :)
Windows x64 architecture has no real driver support. At least my experiences with it aren't the best.
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http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_93.71.html
:p :D
Just go to Nvidia's driver page, and select your card & OS.
Not very hard, really...
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http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_93.71.html
:p :D
Just go to Nvidia's driver page, and select your card & OS.
Not very hard, really...
yeah, but x64 drivers aren't exactly the best. That's my personal experience though...
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last time I got drivers there they didnt seem to work right and they dont give the specific option for new drivers for older cards
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Yeah nVidia doesn't write drivers for the GeForce 2 anymore...it was already problematic back when I replaced mine about...6 years ago. You're probably running in the Windows compatibility mode driver which will do D3D ok...well enough....but nothing else really good. You're card is probably underperforming as the drivers aren't that great.
Depending on the age of your computer...a replacement could be had for as much as $60 which would be significantly more powerful than the old GTS (a fine card in its day I might say, I bought one and used it for years).
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When you update nVidia drivers, you have to uninstall all the old ones first, restart, tell Windows to shut up about installing its own drivers, (you may have to boot safe mode to prevent its auto-install), then install the new one, otherwise you'll run into problems...
And yes, if your computer has PCI or AGP slots, you can buy a new graphics card for a fairly decent price; I get mine on eBay. (like this (http://www.bfgtech.com/6200_256_PCI.html) one for PCI or that (http://www.bfgtech.com/7800GS_256.html) one for AGP ;7 )
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it has no real practical sense to have a weak CPU and a high tech GPU. Not to mention that his PC won't be able to produce enough power :)
Geforce 4 Ti or, perhaps Geforce 6600 might be a good upgrade option though.
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The 1st one I mentioned was a 6200... :p
I pesonally use the AGP version of the 6200.
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I clicked on the AGP link. I mean, older computers have only an AGP card slot :)
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There is a difference between PCI, and PCI-e
PCI is older than AGP
PCI-e is newer than AGP
PCI is the slot you plug extra sound cards, modems, hard disk controllers, etc into
"Peripheral Component Interface (or Interconnect, I can't remember)"
"Advanced Graphics Port"
PCI-e (-enhanced?)
A really old computer will only have PCI slots, and maybe some ISA slots, and possibly VESA slots or other similar.
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as far as I recall only Geforce 2 MX was available for the PCI slot :)
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Minimum System Requirements
>> CPU with processor speed of 500MHz or higher
>> 128MB of RAM
>> An available PCI 2.0 slot
>> CD or DVD-ROM drive
>> 35MB available hard disk space
(50MB for full installation)
>> A minimum 250W power supply is recommended in systems where a number of other internal devices are installed
>> Microsoft® Windows® 98, ME, 2000, XP, NT4.0 with service pack 5 or 6
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Yes, PCI-E was introduced a few years ago, first card available for PCI-E was either Geforce 5 or 6. Can't remember it from the top of my head.
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Work on PCI began at Intel's Architecture Lab circa 1990. PCI 1.0, which was merely a component-level specification, was released on June 22, 1992. PCI 2.0, which was the first to establish standards for the connector and motherboard slot, was released on April 30, 1993. PCI 2.1 was released on June 1, 1995.
I did try to tell you that PCI-e and PCI are not the same, didn't I?
:lol: What year are you living in?
*news flash: Microsoft states it will release its revolutionary new Operating System, to be called Windows '95, within two years.*
-Sorry, couldn't resist. :D
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Are you reading between the lines? Looking through your posts... yes, I think you do.
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Yes, you think I do what? You didn't say anything. (At least when stacked up with what I said, and what you originally said.)
-nice try ;7
Minimum System Requirements
>> CPU with processor speed of 500MHz or higher
>> 128MB of RAM
>> An available PCI 2.0 slot
>> CD or DVD-ROM drive
>> 35MB available hard disk space
(50MB for full installation)
>> A minimum 250W power supply is recommended in systems where a number of other internal devices are installed
>> Microsoft® Windows® 98, ME, 2000, XP, NT4.0 with service pack 5 or 6
Yes, PCI-E was introduced a few years ago, first card available for PCI-E was either Geforce 5 or 6. Can't remember it from the top of my head.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2007, 05:00:25 AM by Tolwyn » ... so this post belongs after the next one by me.
Work on PCI began at Intel's Architecture Lab circa 1990. PCI 1.0, which was merely a component-level specification, was released on June 22, 1992. PCI 2.0, which was the first to establish standards for the connector and motherboard slot, was released on April 30, 1993. PCI 2.1 was released on June 1, 1995.
I did try to tell you that PCI-e and PCI are not the same, didn't I?
:lol: What year are you living in?
*news flash: Microsoft states it will release its revolutionary new Operating System, to be called Windows '95, within two years.*
-Sorry, couldn't resist. :D
Yes, PCI-E was introduced a few years ago, first card available for PCI-E was either Geforce 5 or 6. Can't remember it from the top of my head.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2007, 05:00:25 AM by Tolwyn »
With the introduction of the serial PCI Express standard in 2004, motherboard manufacturers have included progressively fewer PCI expansion slots in favor of the new standard. Although it is still common to see both interfaces implemented side-by-side, traditional PCI is likely to slowly die out in coming years.
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Trying to be smart, are we?
spoken by Admiral Tolwyn
Admiral Tolwyn, Confed serial number C21-701! I find you guilty of violating article nine subsection x-twelve paragraph three of the uniform court of military justice, editing your forum post without approval by jr2. Such action at the time of war constitutes high treason against the Terran Confederation. All rank privelages and benefits as a citizen of the Terran confederation are hereby revoked. You will be transferred to the Vega Penal Colony at 1900 hours. That is all, Mr. Tolwyn.
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:lol:
:wakka:
That was funny.
But you know ur guilty (of obfuscation of this conversation) :p
Don't make me prove it... you don't want me to..
Okay, enough trivial stuff, I'm sure you are now aware that PCI 2.0 came out long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Oops, wrong story *ahem*.
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:lol:
:wakka:
That was funny.
But you know ur guilty :p
Don't make me prove it... you don't want me to..
Okay, enough trivial stuff, I'm sure you are now aware that PCI 2.0 came out long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away... Oops, wrong story *ahem*.
I am sure you are now aware... my dear man, I know certainly enough about computers.
I may have made a small typo while writing my reply. Partially because I had other things on my mind. So, please, stop being a know it all.
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I'm not a know it all... why didn't you just say "oops, typo?".... or is that what you meant?
It was looking to me like you tried to change your post, and make my response to it look weird..
PS How long u worked on computers? Is it a hobby?
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well, I am saying it now. Happy?
EDIT: I've got my first pc at the age of 8, so it has been a while :)
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Eh, sure... :D
Anyways,
I've been destroying *erm* fixing :rolleyes: computers since I was about 14, wanting to since I was 12... what about you?
EDIT: Wow... quite the geekster..
EDIT2: BTW, FYI, when I responded to your post I was a bit sleepy, or I might have worded it differently... I do that sometimes.. against my better judgment, I guess. :doubt:
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EDIT2: BTW, FYI, when I responded to your post I was a bit sleepy, or I might have worded it differently... I do that sometimes.. against my better judgment, I guess. :doubt:
heh, I have to restrain myself fairly often, I have to tell you that. Especially when I am in a bad mood. And that is fairly often these days, as I have to reinstall OS on all computers at work. :D
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...let me guess.
winDOwS?
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I got it workin in win2k, tho only partially. Drivers there were somewhat newer.
Tested on Win2k 1st with new Radeon drivers. Worked hunky dory!
Performance good too.
Then did XP dirvers, worked a treat however game perrmance wasnt QUITE as good, but still very playable!
So, WHENS the FULL ver of this 4thcomming?
Cheers! ;)
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I got it workin in win2k, tho only partially. Drivers there were somewhat newer.
Tested on Win2k 1st with new Radeon drivers. Worked hunky dory!
Performance good too.
Then did XP dirvers, worked a treat however game perrmance wasnt QUITE as good, but still very playable!
So, WHENS the FULL ver of this 4thcomming?
Cheers! ;)
I'll take this one Admiral....
When it is done....... :D
http://scifi3d.org/information/faq.htm
There is also a progress report page at the website that will help document development efforts.
Moran out.
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Take a look here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44277.msg904387.html#msg904387) :)
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