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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: ZylonBane on January 19, 2002, 11:13:00 pm
Well, anyone else catch Legend of the Rangers tonight?
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Shrike on January 19, 2002, 11:17:00 pm
No....... I couldn't find it in the listings here in Vancouver.  Annoying, but I'm sure It'll be on sometime.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Xelion on January 19, 2002, 11:19:00 pm
hahaha   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) not a chance in Australia...damn  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/mad.gif) ain't happy with that   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Warlock on January 19, 2002, 11:27:00 pm
Watching it for the second time in a row as a matter of fact  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I LOVED the weaponry controls!!!!!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

But I don't want to give anything away for those that haven't seen it yet.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: ZylonBane on January 20, 2002, 12:18:00 am
Yeah, I thought the weaponry control was a great idea... but they ruined it with the goofy Dragonball Z implementation.

Overall it felt like they picked a pile of random bits from B5, tossed it all in a blender, and poured the result into a two-hour movie. But it was much better than the Crusade premiere.

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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Ypoknons on January 20, 2002, 01:02:00 am
Try finding someone who's even heard of Babylon 5 in Hong Kong...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Warlock on January 20, 2002, 01:48:00 am
Ya notice the b5 shot at the end thou? It wasn't even rotating lol Just a static render used as a background,...pretty sad

But all in all I was pleased with the movie..not too shabby.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Gortef on January 20, 2002, 03:51:00 am
waahhahhaa... *snif*
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Nico on January 20, 2002, 06:12:00 am
 
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Originally posted by ZylonBane:
Well, anyone else catch Legend of the Rangers tonight?

What is this? As there's all chances (chances? mmh...) that this won't be ever shown down here...

Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Setekh on January 20, 2002, 08:02:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Max:
hahaha    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif) not a chance in Australia...damn   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/mad.gif) ain't happy with that    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)

So true...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: an0n on January 20, 2002, 09:27:00 am
Heheh, I'm getting all the european satellite channels to ensure I never miss anything ever again. I'll end up with around 4000 channels from all over europe and a few hundred from america. Mwuahahahaha.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Nico on January 20, 2002, 09:54:00 am
 
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Originally posted by an0n:
Heheh, I'm getting all the european satellite channels to ensure I never miss anything ever again. I'll end up with around 4000 channels from all over europe and a few hundred from america. Mwuahahahaha.

some people have bucks...

Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: an0n on January 20, 2002, 10:54:00 am
Receiver/Decoder: £250 (Humax IRCI 5400z)
Dish: £69 (80cm)
Tripple LNB's: £45
CAMs: £80 + £60
Cards: Make them
Setting up: DIY

Total cost: £504 ($806.40)
Value: Priceless

Use Barcla....*shakes head*...uuh, I think I could do with a little less TV.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Thorn on January 20, 2002, 10:55:00 am
 
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Originally posted by an0n:
DIY

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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: an0n on January 20, 2002, 11:00:00 am
It's really easy. You just get an..erm...voltmeter(?) or something like that and set it to the correct frequency band then jiggle the LNB's around. Or I suppose I could buy a proper satellite signalometer that puts any unencrypted channels on a nice little B&W screen but they're like £200.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Thorn on January 20, 2002, 11:02:00 am
not what I meant....
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: an0n on January 20, 2002, 11:09:00 am
Please, elaborate upon your initial comment.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Scorpius on January 20, 2002, 11:18:00 am
Okay, was Legend of the Rangers a movie or a series premiere? Because it played more like a TV show than a movie. But I never saw the words Series Premiere or anytihng like that.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: an0n on January 20, 2002, 11:20:00 am
It's the same kinda thing as In The Beggining. Not really a pilot, more of a scene setter. PLus if it bombs then they can just say it was only ever meant as a one off movie.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Ace on January 20, 2002, 03:10:00 pm
Ya notice the b5 shot at the end thou? It wasn't even rotating lol Just a static render used as a background,...pretty sad

Actually I was looking pretty close at the scene because I thought it was static too at first.

B5's habitat ring *does* rotate, but slowly.

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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Eishtmo on January 20, 2002, 06:59:00 pm
I watched it.  To be honest, it was the best B5 film they've ever made.  Yes, it had its moments of cheese, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Though the Hand sounds like a bunch of pretenders to the Shadow throne.

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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: ZylonBane on January 20, 2002, 07:32:00 pm
By the end, I was about ready to shoot the TV set if anyone said "We live for the one, we die for the one." again.

And that "Swedish meatballs" bit wasn't even funny the first time.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Warlock on January 20, 2002, 09:20:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Eishtmo:
I watched it.  To be honest, it was the best B5 film they've ever made.  Yes, it had its moments of cheese, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Though the Hand sounds like a bunch of pretenders to the Shadow throne.
I gotta agree the entire concept of the Hand sounds like crap. The entire b5 series just aboutwa based on how for thousands of years the Shadows started galatic wars here and there as they viewed Chaos as a manner of evalotionary change. Now it's "oh yea b4 the Shadows now we forgot to mention about These badasses???

Hmm lesse:

First ones leave the galaxy after getting tired of warring with each other and leave the Vorlons and Shadows to manage the plan.....finally we join up and whip that *** ,..get them to all leave,..now the "Hand".

I think a script writer was watching a bit too much Anime  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)


As to the B5 static shot. Also I noticed watching it again today,..I never really saw ANY other normal b5 ships. I got a feeling Sci Fi couldn't get the models the original series used and just did new things and used a static image for babylon 5 itself. I know it rotated slowly b4,..but I focused on one spot with a colored square on the rotating section...it didn't move at all the entire shot...in the series b5's rotation was noticable.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Ace on January 20, 2002, 10:20:00 pm
Weird, because on the Babylon project forum a bunch of folks were saying how it was rotating _very_ slowly.

On the whole "The Hand" mess, I'm thinking that they're like Boskone. (the lensman series)

Overall their probably a little older then the Shadows and Vorlons and take the "who do you serve" bit to the extreme.

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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: ZylonBane on January 20, 2002, 10:49:00 pm
I don't think The Hand is nearly as powerful as their minions claim. Consider that a box of grenades can completely destroy one of their big-@ss ships.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Ace on January 20, 2002, 11:02:00 pm
Yeah, but that wasn't a Hand ship, just a toy given to the minion races...

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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Setekh on January 21, 2002, 01:03:00 am
What in the..? First guys with Magenta beams, then dudes who breathe methane, and now a Hand? Someone want to fill me in?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wtf.gif)
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Warlock on January 21, 2002, 01:47:00 am
 
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Originally posted by ZylonBane:
I don't think The Hand is nearly as powerful as their minions claim. Consider that a box of grenades can completely destroy one of their big-@ss ships.

Actually the right type and number of grenades inside the dead center,..makes since. Note that they pulled the pod in at about the same spot the ships weapons all fired from. I'd say it most likely would have set off the weapons systems. Like Gkar stated,..those would be a prime target as they're quite volitile.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: ZylonBane on January 21, 2002, 02:43:00 am
We have to consider that this is from the same writer who, in the B5 pilot "The Gathering", had a relatively tiny explosion knock a spinning multi-billion-ton space station about 45 degress off axis... and NOT tear itself to shreds in the process. JMS may enjoy science fiction, but he's not a very good science fiction writer.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Nico on January 21, 2002, 05:41:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
What in the..? First guys with Magenta beams, then dudes who breathe methane, and now a Hand? Someone want to fill me in?   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wtf.gif)

Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: IceFire on January 21, 2002, 09:20:00 am
 
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JMS may enjoy science fiction, but he's not a very good science fiction writer.
Blastphemy!!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Personally I think Babylon 5 and everything in between has been some of the best Sci-Fi shown on TV.  Legend of the Rangers is just an extension of that...and while its a bit perhaps stiff at the moment, if it goes to series it'll definately improve.

I was impressed with the movie completely.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Eishtmo on January 21, 2002, 12:08:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by ZylonBane:
JMS may enjoy science fiction, but he's not a very good science fiction writer.

Actually, he's a pretty decent science fiction writer, with the emphsis on fiction.  Sci-fi refers to a style of writing where the situations that we face today are amplified inot a future setting.  The science part is honestly not as important as the fiction part, it never has been and never will be.  From Frankenstien to 2001, the point is the fiction, not the science.  If you read them for the science, switch to tech manual, it'll be more entertaining for you.

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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on January 21, 2002, 12:15:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Eishtmo:
Actually, he's a pretty decent science fiction writer, with the emphsis on fiction.  Sci-fi refers to a style of writing where the situations that we face today are amplified inot a future setting.  The science part is honestly not as important as the fiction part, it never has been and never will be.  From Frankenstien to 2001, the point is the fiction, not the science.  If you read them for the science, switch to tech manual, it'll be more entertaining for you.



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Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: ZylonBane on January 21, 2002, 02:05:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Eishtmo:
Actually, he's a pretty decent science fiction writer, with the emphsis on fiction.
Exactly. He's really a space-opera writer who thinks he's a hard SF writer. Whenever he tries to integrate actual science into his stories, he almost always flubs it.

He also has an extremely ham-handed sense of humor, but that's another peeve entirely...
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Warlock on January 21, 2002, 02:15:00 pm
Ummm b5 is meant as a space opera. And exactly what has he done to point out without a doubt true science and not science fiction?

More still...all this flowing from them using grenades on a lifepod to take out a ship? heh

Hell you have any idea how much damage a pod that can hold one human body comfortably, then filled with a person and crammed with as many modern FRAG grenades would do?? And that's not only modern not a few 100 years from now grenades,..but FRAGs. They're only meant to throw shrapnel at you.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: CODEDOG ND on January 21, 2002, 04:12:00 pm
how said they were FRAGS?  the larger grenades now a days can do some pretty large damage.  HE grenades I think that is what they are called I dunno.

I liked it...B5 has always been a little different from most sci-fi movies and doesn't try to explain all with abunch of scientific BS.
Title: OT: Legend of the Rangers
Post by: Shrike on January 21, 2002, 04:20:00 pm
I liked the Omegas with the rotating sections.  Hell, it's probably WORSE to have those things than to just tye the crew down.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

You'd have to design those rotationing sections not for zeegee, not for a single gravity direction, but up to three!