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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Viper01 on March 13, 2007, 01:53:46 pm
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I have been working on my campaign, and I am now on my second mission!!! I have run into a problem, though. In an effort to make the missions more realistic e.g. Destroyers operate with a battlegroup and spit out a full complement of fighters to defend and attack. The unfortunate result of this is a lot of cruisers. I need names for Cain, Lilith, Fenris, and leviathan class cruisers. I do not have the imagination to come up with somewhat realistic FS names for these ships. If anyone has any ideas for names, that would be terrific. Credit will be given. Thanks!!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_specific_demons_and_types_of_demons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_specific_demons_and_types_of_demons)
There are all the shivan names you need.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_gods (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_gods)
And there you have some good terran names! Pretty much every canon ship name in the freespace series is based on mythology. If you ever need Vasudan names, check for something egyptian. Most of these are used often but they are nevertheless numerous and they fit well into campaigns. If you want something different, you might want to check for nice sounding places or cities here on Earth.
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Thank you very much! This should be very helpful in allowing me to work on the other aspects of my missions. Once again, thank you.
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If all else fails use adjectives.
i.e. Indomitable, Relentless, Fearless, etc.
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City/region names of Earth work, e.g. GTC Pretoria.
Famous people from history could work, too; e.g. GTC Bolivar
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Or imfamous people for enemy Terran ships, like the NTC Napolean.
Greek gods can also be used for Terran ship classes.
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Also you can use Norse gods...not sure what the convention is there however.
Fenris, which is an evil wolf, is a Terran ship, as is Mjollnir, which is the hammer of the good Thor, god of thunder.
Also, Hela, which is the evil goddess of the underworld (yes i know its not as simple as that, don't nail me on technicalities), is the name of a Lilith class cruiser. *shrug* I guess in the case of Norse gods use whatever sounds best
I think Jormungand would kick ass as a Shivan Lucifer, in my opinion.
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Shivan ships use hindu mythology names.
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Shivan ships use hindu mythology names.
Not exclusively; they draw from Christian mythology as well.
for example: Cain, Lilith, Lucifer, Sathanas.
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.............what? i've never heard of them during ANY of my five years of Catholic schooling.
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It's more hebrew mythology than christian, though the two are naturally closely intertwined...
By the way, there's christian/hebrew symbolism/mythology on at least one Terran ship class name as well... Leviathan. As to shivans, they also have Seraphim and Nephilim bombers, Dragon and Basilisk fighters*, then they have SC Sephiroth... so it appears to me that hindu deities are definitely not the only naming pool for Shivan ships and ship classes.
*Dragon is kinda universal mythical beast/deity - although it is also accosiated to Satan in some bible translations - so it's not actually from any single mythology IMHO. Basilisk seems to be from European folklore.
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.............what? i've never heard of them during ANY of my five years of Catholic schooling.
You haven't heard of Cain? Hell, you haven't heard about LUCIFER?
I have my doubts.
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Uhm Shivan names aren't limited to Bible and Hindu names. Everything concerning evil is a good Shivan name(Nosferatu, Belphegor). Don't forget Latin words(Malor) and even English ones(Bane).
City/region names of Earth work, e.g. GTC Pretoria.
The Pretoriae were Roman units.
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The Pretoriae were Roman units.
That's Praetoriani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard).
Pretoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretoria), on the other hand, is a city in South Africa.
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.............what? i've never heard of them during ANY of my five years of Catholic schooling.
What?? How??? I've heard at least five of them at a public school! (not including my 8 years at a catholic school)
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Or you could just nick names from other sci-fi sources: Enterprise, Beliskner, Prometheus, Messiah, Titan, Pegasus, Esperanto, Agamemnon, Executor, Hippaforalkus, etc.
Not that hard, buddy.
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Or you could just nick names from other sci-fi sources: Enterprise, Beliskner, Prometheus, Messiah, Titan, Pegasus, Esperanto, Agamemnon, Executor, Hippaforalkus, etc.
Not that hard, buddy.
Prometheus is at least three separate weapons in the FreeSpace saga. Pegasus is a stealth fighter already. GTD Enterprise and GTVA Executor will be taken seriously by nobody.
Esperanto is a language.
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Taking names from Tolkien makes me cringe.
(Or laugh, GTC Gandalf the Grey)
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The Pretoriae were Roman units.
That's Praetoriani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetorian_Guard).
Pretoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretoria), on the other hand, is a city in South Africa.
The Praetoriani were members of the Praetoriae.
Taking names from Tolkien makes me cringe.
(Or laugh, GTC Gandalf the Grey)
There already is an airline company called Gandalf. Try with Olòrin, Incanus... these are other names of Gandalf.
Anyway, I use Tolkien names also for Shivan ships(SD Balrog, SD Gothmog, SJ Morgoth, SC Ungoliant, SC Snaga, SC Azog, etc. etc.) and they're definitely better than adjectives(like Aggressive).
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Here are a few that might be decent:
Rukifellth
Bulzeeb
Zoniha
Taken from, of all places, the Bomberman series. They are just slightly garbled versions of pre-existing deities. (Bulzeeb came from Beelzebub, for instance.)
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Well adjectives IMO only work for Terran ships. GTD Impervious goes well, but GVD Impervious does not IMO. There's a corvette in MT called the GVCv Dauntless, which I didn't like really. Better Terran names are Greek gods, but anything really works for them.
For Shivan ship names I have really obscure Hindu gods such as Jagghadatri for cruisers or corvettes, but less weird sounding ones for (key) destroyers such as Īśāna. Key ships such as a hive ship or installation would be named things like ईश्वर (Ishvara).
Stupid names would be something like GTD Jamie or GTD Mikey. THOSE names make me cringe. Badly.
Here are a few that might be decent:
Rukifellth
Bulzeeb
Zoniha
Taken from, of all places, the Bomberman series. They are just slightly garbled versions of pre-existing deities. (Bulzeeb came from Beelzebub, for instance.)
Any Engrish works. :P
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Stupid names would be something like GTD Jamie or GTD Mikey. THOSE names make me cringe. Badly.
We all agree. The point is that names token from Tolkien works should be accepted since they have been elaborated well.
If you hate the films inspired by LOTR you are not to be blamed, but The Prof. wrote many other stories...
The film wasn't directed by him and you can't imagine how JRRT condemned people that misunderstood his works. I bet that he would have blamed Peter Jackson a lot.
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Good names are names that have their stem in Tolkien. Not taken directly from it.
SD Balrog, SD Gothmog, SJ Morgoth, SC Ungoliant, SC Snaga, SC Azog
SD Balrog, for instance, is taken directly from the series. However, things like Aeglos or Nareos, though it is from the Elvish language, work since they sound cool and don't bring back images of LOTR. Morgoth is a good name cause it sounds cool, but some people who have read the Silmarillion may remember it and think of it in a bad light.
My two cents.
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Aeglos was a weapon while Nareos is a word formed by TrashMan...means "fire" and something...
Morgoth is equal to Sathanas since it means "Enemy", but in addition Morgoth reminds the black colour(mor-). It looks cool, yeah, but it's mentioned also in LOTR.
In the film, Gandalf talked about the Balrog as "Demon of Morgoth"...many people that watched the film could remember this name.
In the book Morgoth is mentioned more than once(in the appendice).
Ah, you may use Melkor too. It's similar Lucifer. Or you may wish to use Valarauko, the High Elvish for Balrog.
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You should make a new corvette, the gtcv asshole. It's a ship with mostly antifighter weaponry, and all of the capship weaponry is subsystem damaging ****, and emp based ****. So it wouldn't be destroying capships, it'd just be piling on through doing some major disarming of the enemy fleet and leave. It'd be one asshole of a ship given that it'd have some serious overbalancing issues.
Then there's the ntf pussy (iceni). It's always running away.
And then the gtva baseball bat (colossus). On several missions it swings for home runs with you as the ball.
The sj idontcovermyass (sathanas). Yeah like the only ship in the game that doesn't cover its ass end at all.
Some ship names are great, you can really name them whatever you want. Of course not this blatantly obvious, but rather cool sounding going for the ships reputation.
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I wouldn't call a ship, for instance, something well known like SD Vader. ><
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Fantasy works and fantascientific films are completely different.
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I wouldn't call it the GTCv Frodo or something well known. If it's obscure, then fine, use it, but if it's well known then don't.
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Taking names from Tolkien makes me cringe.
(Or laugh, GTC Gandalf the Grey)
Really? I tend to vomit.
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Never thought about this, but names of old generals works too...
remember the GTD Eisenhower? famously destroyed by the first Typhon at the Vega Engagement? (tech room if ya dont)
i guess GTD Montgomery would work...as would GTD Patton (probably GTC would be better).
Hannibal, Scipio, Burgoyne, Yamato (well admiral in this case)...etc.
Also look up names of old ships. some of the names work well for cruisers.
As another alternative, use names of characters from FS1 or if it's in the future, FS2.
Khafre, Petrarch, Wolf, Shima...maybe some squadron leader names. Loukakis, Samsa...
Thaire's 'aplenny uh naymes out thaire, son...juss gotta look fohr 'em [/Texan]
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GTD Mobius. <---Squadron Leader, so?
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Too bad it can't be SH Snail... :sigh:
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I wouldn't call it the GTCv Frodo or something well known. If it's obscure, then fine, use it, but if it's well known then don't.
LMFAO. Good job you didn't snail, apparently you haven't watched this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QAlt4Sfl7Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QAlt4Sfl7Q)
After watching this i'd rather call a ship the sj pussyburrower. Then the gtcv frodo would all be trying to get up with that :lol:
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:wakka:
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!!?? "Gimleiyy!" :lol:
Well the SSSJ Snail (Shivan Super Super Juggernaut) is the sistership to the Gargant, with more weaponry but less armor. The Snail usually jumps in and wipes out all the opposition, then the Gargant comes in to hold the position from any counter-attacks while the Snail goes forward ahead blowing up another position, etc.
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Yeah, gtcv frodo don't cut it. Anyway, idk who created that well done voice over, but the gandof laugh is priceless. Then gimley comes in with that little shriek noise. Legolus obviously finds the steamy hobbit on hobbit action very tasty. But, my favorite part is when aragorn comes in, "Yeeeeeaaaaaaaahhh?".
Lol, it was so well done, i ripped gandof laughing and aragorn saying yeah just for my answering machine. Now everyone calls up and hears aragorn, then microsoft sam(of which i did my best to make sam sound like kim jung ill from team america), then gandof laughing, then gandof laughing backwards(which sounds a lot like timmy from south park). I'm not joking, that's my answering machine message, it's 25 seconds long, and it confuses the **** out of people. I've still got it too, maybe i'll post it online sometime.
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GTD Mobius. <---Squadron Leader, so?
Ace Combat 4?Yeah, gtcv frodo don't cut it. Anyway, idk who created that well done voice over, but the gandof laugh is priceless. Then gimley comes in with that little shriek noise. Legolus obviously finds the steamy hobbit on hobbit action very tasty. But, my favorite part is when aragorn comes in, "Yeeeeeaaaaaaaahhh?".
Lol, it was so well done, i ripped gandof laughing and aragorn saying yeah just for my answering machine. Now everyone calls up and hears aragorn, then microsoft sam(of which i did my best to make sam sound like kim jung ill from team america), then gandof laughing, then gandof laughing backwards(which sounds a lot like timmy from south park). I'm not joking, that's my answering machine message, it's 25 seconds long, and it confuses the **** out of people. I've still got it too, maybe i'll post it online sometime.
Yeah...you should... :lol:
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GTD Mobius. <---Squadron Leader, so?
Ace Combat 4?
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WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!!?? "Gimleiyy!" :lol:
You mean Gimli.
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It was a whimper saying Gimli, but it sounded like 'Gimleiyy'! :lol:
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Ah yeah <_<
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Hmmm yeah, what's a good file storage service? I use to know one, but i don't remember anymore. It's not a very big thing i need to host(the answering machine). :)
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Sometimes to make up names, I just take the first syllable of a word and 'graft' it on to the last of another word. Or I could just make lots of random letters, to. Shivan names have lots of 'v's and 'x's, while vasudan names have lots of 'y's or double 'o's or 'u's. You also must replace the letter 'f' with 'ph' and put a 'p' in front of 's's if it's the first letter.
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Here we go. Got it hosted at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HSFKP4AM (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HSFKP4AM) alright this is kickass. It's my answering machine message. Listen away it's only 1mb.
Names being used for ships as far as they go for like the name of a person. Gtd eisenhower, maybe the gtd nixon, but certainly nothing like gtcv frodo, or gtfr bush. Something else could be the ntf saddam. Whatever sounds cool, sort of like my answering machine (my gf hates it to death).
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For Vasudan ships, it should sound at least vaguely Egyptian, or vaguely Vasudan. Keep the apostrophes to a minimum.
If in doubt, find a list of pharaohs somewhere and pick an obscure one like Djedefre or Anendjib.
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Well there are two kinds of Egyptian names: their civilization(I love it)lasted long so the language has changed.
There was a city called Memphis, we all know that, but it has another name(Men-nefer already used in SthCrs). All Vasudan names used by me come straight from Faraon(great game!).
Most Vasudan names I used could be considered strange, but they're still valid. Also:
Shawnbaka
Craigamun
Rajohnhotep
Horapollo <---it was my favourite E. name when I was a kid.
Montumery
These names exist, but I think you will laugh at me if I use them(Shawn,Craig,John,Apollo,Montgomery :D ).
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Here we go. Got it hosted at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HSFKP4AM (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HSFKP4AM) alright this is kickass. It's my answering machine message. Listen away it's only 1mb.
Names being used for ships as far as they go for like the name of a person. Gtd eisenhower, maybe the gtd nixon, but certainly nothing like gtcv frodo, or gtfr bush. Something else could be the ntf saddam. Whatever sounds cool, sort of like my answering machine (my gf hates it to death).
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T BRING SADDAM INTO THIS!
Also, the Nixon might be a bad idea. The Eisenhower is good because Eisenhower is long-dead, and there's a ship named after him currently in service in the US Navy, which shows that, at least historically, the GTA followed traditional naming conventions (and possibly that the US took over Earth). Using Nixon or Bush might feel out-of-place because they're more current, whereas Eisenhower gives a sort of old-timey feel, perfect for a ship in the past.
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I forgot SethGREGORshef, another Egyptian name.
AK: FS is in the future. Names like Bush or Nixon could be used.
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AK: FS is in the future. Names like Bush or Nixon could be used.
Yes, but do contemporary navies routinely name their ships after leaders from hundreds of years ago of countries that haven't existed for centuries? That'd be like the USN naming their next supercarrier hull after the 3rd Emperor of Persia. To mimic the idea in a more appropriate manner, perhaps one could come up with fictional names of Freespace heroes, famous Admirals or Political leaders from their time rather than ours.
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That's why we should simply use mythological names.
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Sort of on the topic of ship names: the name Shaitan and Sathanas have the same etymological origin.
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Yes, but do contemporary navies routinely name their ships after leaders from hundreds of years ago of countries that haven't existed for centuries? That'd be like the USN naming their next supercarrier hull after the 3rd Emperor of Persia. To mimic the idea in a more appropriate manner, perhaps one could come up with fictional names of Freespace heroes, famous Admirals or Political leaders from their time rather than ours.
Hey, naming a ship after past rulers has some canonical basis in FS. Need I point out:
- NTD Vasa (Yes, I know the Vasas are still around.)
- NTD Andronicus (several Byzantine emperors)
- GTD Aeneas
- GTCv Murakami (however, the ship could have been named for the city of the same name, rather than the emperor)
- GTC Agrippa
- NTC Gaozu (First emperor of the Tang dynasty)
- NTC Napoleon
- GTFr Sulla
;)
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Using Bush might feel out-of-place because he's more current
The US Navy is building a carrier named "USS George H. W. Bush", and the last carrier built is the "USS Ronald Reagan", so I think nobody will complain about naming a FS ship after a current president. I can already see the GTD Obama in a upcoming campaign.
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But when you create a campaign, you think about the future.
I might name Zichichi a science cruiser.
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Using Bush might feel out-of-place because he's more current
The US Navy is building a carrier named "USS George H. W. Bush", and the last carrier built is the "USS Ronald Reagan", so I think nobody will complain about naming a FS ship after a current president.
Especially if they get to blow it up......
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I think the idea is that by 2300 (when Freespace takes place) we've stopped idolizing politicians and historical figures and ships are named after mythology or war heroes, not political supporters of the navy/military (CVN Ronald Reagan, SSBN George Washington, CVN George Bush, etc.).
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SSBN George Washington
Isn't the USS Washington another nuclear-powered carrier? :confused:
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I think the idea is that by 2300 (when Freespace takes place) we've stopped idolizing politicians and historical figures and ships are named after mythology or war heroes, not political supporters of the navy/military (CVN Ronald Reagan, SSBN George Washington, CVN George Bush, etc.).
Hah, no chance. What is more likely is that naming a ship after one nations hero would be too politcially uncomfortable for a unified earth goverment.
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Strange...I agree with Aldo...
Damn this is a serious matter.
;)
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"Other nations"? Everyone on FS seems like a white american male to me :confused:
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I try to work in non-US/British ship and character names whenever I can, to counter my American sensibilities :p
e.g.
* GTCv Zhongshan, for instance (named for a ship from China's pre-WW2 attempts to modernise its military)
or
* GTM Ibn Sina (aka Avicenna; his medical texts were heavily relied upon prior to the development of modern medicine)
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Using Bush might feel out-of-place because he's more current
The US Navy is building a carrier named "USS George H. W. Bush", and the last carrier built is the "USS Ronald Reagan", so I think nobody will complain about naming a FS ship after a current president. I can already see the GTD Obama in a upcoming campaign.
I know that. I was just trying to say that it might feel a bit out of place, especially that FS1/2 ships now are named almost exclusively from mythology. The Eisenhower was T/V War era. I know that that issue would be gone because they're in the future, and it might even contribute to the sci-fi feel, but I'm just saying that it might feel out of place.
"Other nations"? Everyone on FS seems like a white american male to me :confused:
Yeah, and with more or less an American accent as well. Koth did have a relatively strange voice though...
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SSBN George Washington
Isn't the USS Washington another nuclear-powered carrier? :confused:
Yep...presidents are the most popular. Current carriers are :
CV 63 Kitty Hawk
CVN(A) 65 Enterprise
CV 67 John F Kennedy
Nimitiz class:
CVN 68 Nimitz
CVN 69 Dwight Eisenhower
CVN 70 Carl Vinson
CVN 71 Theodore Roosevelt
CVN 72 Abraham Lincoln
CVN 73 George Washington
CVN 74 John Stennis
CVN 75 Harry S. Truman
CVN 76 Ronald Reagan
Planned:
CVN 77 Nimitz 2000 (George H.W. Bush IIRC)
CVN 78 CVX 2007 (CVN 65 Enterprise replacement)
CVN 79
I know I'm a newbie and all and am probably not supposed to have an opinion on FS background... :D, but what's to say that the Eisenhower in FS1 was named after "Ike"? There could have been another Eisenhower that came to prominence in Earth's history in the next 300 years.
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If you want to use GTD Bush, you gotta use it in a comedy campaign. It just won't pass in a serious one. :lol: :hammer:
And on the note of names, where did Psamtik come from?
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Psamtik was an Egyptian pharaoh, I knew him with the name Psamnatico.
I think that English names should be limited-there's Aquitaine instead of Aquitania, foe example.
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You should try name ships after space pioneers.
One of them is Herman Potočnik "Noordung".
He was a slovenian rocket engineer and pioneer of cosmonautics.
He was the first person in history (that I now of) that said that we can have a perinante space station in space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Poto%C4%8Dnik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Poto%C4%8Dnik)
http://noordung.vesolje.net/ (http://noordung.vesolje.net/)
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.............what? i've never heard of them during ANY of my five years of Catholic schooling.
Hint: read the bible
Sathan? the devil?
By the way, you could name Science Cruisers after famous Scientist, and AWACS Ships by famous explorers.
You cold also use scottish names (as in DEM)
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So...I may call Drake an AWACS? Or Magellano? Or Colombo?
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They were going to build the USS Clinton, but it got cancelled because of leaks.... :nervous:
ba-dum
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So...I may call Drake an AWACS? Or Magellano? Or Colombo?
Maybe the Magellan or Columbus, but Magellano or Colombo?? :wtf:
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SCv drosophilla
its a fly >.>
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Hmm: something about rebel ships, a few have to do with rebellions...
the Icenisteroid is a Boadicea-class installation, Boadicea who was queen of the Iceni people in Britain and led a rebellion against Roman rule. Also the NTCv Jacobus. Also the NTCv Danton.
I think that they could have extended that out further...personally. The Bolivar, the Guevara, the Robespierre, etc.
Also a GREAT idea for any ship would be the GTD suckmyballs that karajorma refers to in his faq :)
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The GTD suckmyballs is a next-gen ship, though. It uses a new naming convention.
The GTA originally used Greek names, but the GTI tried to change that and use Norse names (Odin, Bragi, Huri). The GTVA soon changed back to Greek names, the NTF used the names of the Iceni, but the next-generation of ships will use offensive things like 'suckmyballs,' 'urmomsaslut,' etc.
However, the Vasudans are getting upset with this new naming convention (because they don't get the offensiveness of it), and are still naming their ships after Egyptian deities and stuff.
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:wtf:
*forum community waits for someone to reply*
Actually... find some way to shorten that, and it's great sig material. :yes:
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Reminds me of the team america song. Team America...**** YEAH! Lick my dick and suck on my balls.
The embodiment of the gtd suckmyballs.
Next is the gtc cockchoke (cruisers like going after what they can't handle).
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i like the name: SJ Hello kitty