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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Warlock on January 21, 2002, 02:43:00 pm
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We've done render and models b4. This IS a game mod site right???
Why in the hell haven't we done a mission contest yet?
Seriously...I mean I can't make the best mission (lol I'm not even a mission designer in my own campaign (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) Just story layout)
but I just had the thought,..I mean why not? I know of alot of ppl that are killer at mission design,..but not modeling or rendering.
So what's everyone think?
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i think its a great idea.
I dont really have a clue how many battles i want to portray would be fought so it would be an excellent idea to encourage people that do.
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Well, we'll wait for the model contest to finish first, but we could do a mission contest in april or may.....
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Oh yes I didn't mean anytime soon by far. A good mission could take a month to design and test and layout and such anyways.
I'd say do it in two groups possibly.
Modded Missions and standard. Or just standard.
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Well, if you want my opinion, I think just standard missions would be much easier to handle.
Either that, or we agree on a single set of mods that everyone can use for their missions, so everyone is on the same footing.
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Well, if you want my opinion, I think just standard missions would be much easier to handle.
Either that, or we agree on a single set of mods that everyone can use for their missions, so everyone is on the same footing.
I'd say stick with standard, too. Also, there'd be 2 problems with having MODded missions:
- Selecting who'd be the lucky people to have their MOD's in the list.
- Many people are working on custom campaigns with their own .TBL files, etc - having another set of MODs would just confuse the issue
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True true.
Let's stick to standard
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hitting the side of a full can of open coke sounds like hitting a giant oil drum in this room, weird, but anyways
It wouldn't be as easy for most people to judge missions as it is renders. Renders you just look at it and say wow, or erm... not so wow, butmissions you actually have to play through and ugh
id still like to enter thou (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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How about a ship contest entry? Basically, take the model contest and integrate it with a modding contest-in other words, you make the model but you also get points for how balanced the model is in-game and how professional it looks.
EDIT: A little more
For example, say one person entered an extraodinarily optimized model; however, it loses to another model that's only medium in terms of how it looks-but it is much more balanced and has all the loading and in-game icons. Comments? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by WMCoolmon (edited 01-21-2002).]
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For the possible mission contest, let's not just have one single winner - give different categories, like in the Grammys. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Best use of:
- dialog
- Briefings
- plot
- 3D space
- believability
- etc...
And the more I think about it, the more strongly I feel that it should be without any MODs whatsoever; we know that everyone can run FS2, but some people have trouble getting certain MODs to work, etc.
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Originally posted by sandwich:
For the possible mission contest, let's not just have one single winner - give different categories, like in the Grammys. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Best use of:
- dialog
- Briefings
- plot
- 3D space
- believability
- etc...
And the more I think about it, the more strongly I feel that it should be without any MODs whatsoever; we know that everyone can run FS2, but some people have trouble getting certain MODs to work, etc.
So noted. Nice thoughts (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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I definitely like Sandwich's idea. Highly cool. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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Since we're sticking to the default tables, I might as well submit this ("http://members.home.com/cp5670/M-SB.zip")... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
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Just hold the horses hero (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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One other thing is that once we get the forums converted to vB, we'll have the ability to have real polls, which will make things easier. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
One thread each for the different categories, with the poll having each mission as a voting option.
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"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
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Well, we could also have the awards kind of thing for lousy missions and stuff. You know...they always have that kind of things...forgot the name of that awards ceremony...
Anyway, I would love to have a missions contest. I love creating missions in FRED2.
[This message has been edited by NeoHunter (edited 01-22-2002).]
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Well, I for one have no problem with modded missions- as long as the mod is simple enough to be easily packaged with the mission. Adding your favorite fighter? Fine. Making a TBL tweak? Fine. As long as the guy running the mission doesn't have to do anything more than drag&drop files, I'm all for it. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
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I'd say unmodded is easier...
although you can pretty much use a common mod set (in a VP file), and share it amongst anyone wanting to use it for missions.
(I have a slight personal interest in this, as I've not yet really played any full missions - bar 1- with any of my mods, beyond simple testing ones - useless at FREd ya see)
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If mods are allowed, then this ("http://wind.prohosting.com/cp5670/PItest.zip") is probably some of my better work. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) The mods here are more for play-balancing and stuff like that though.
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Relax ppl it's under discussion at the moment (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
All info will be posted once everything's settled.
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Man... If you guys do this, I'm going to have to reinstall FS2, and reprogram the joystick and.... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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All info will be posted once everything's settled.
Hey, you should start p1mping everything ahead of time to get more downloads, right? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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No
Unless you want to make missions as practice.
The only fact is the day it starts,..will be the day missions can be made FOR the contest. Anything b4 isn't being excepted.
Hence saying not to bother pimping out designs now (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
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Well, but you've got to show off all your OLD favorites somewhere, right? (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Oh yeah, and speaking of which... my only FS2 mission in any sort of near-finished state here. ("http://students.cs.byu.edu/~Sushi/BestLaidPlans.zip") Designed with the Velocity Mod in mind (big surprise (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)) so it'll turn out somewhat differently if you play without it.
One more thing... CP, I downloaded your modded mission zip above, and none of it worked. The VP file was there, and all the subfiles showed up, but attempts to open them gave me nothing but garbage. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif)
[This message has been edited by Sushi mk. 2 (edited 01-23-2002).]
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That is quite strange; I tried downloading the file twice and playing the game using it, but it worked fine. The file uploaded there is a bit out of date, but it should certainly work. What exactly happens when you try to run it?
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What about if the only mods allowed were the old FS1 ships? That way there'd be no competeion for inclusion in the mod list, and it would add a few more ships.
Just a thought.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf:
What about if the only mods allowed were the old FS1 ships? That way there'd be no competeion for inclusion in the mod list, and it would add a few more ships.
Just a thought.
Good idea. Back to the Athena!
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Well, I think the main problem is compatibility here. Sure, their made by Volition (originally), but this way you can make it, and play it, on a clean FS2 install.
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I prefer doing missions without MODs in it. Much easier and it skips problem ssome of us may have with MOD compatibility. For some unknown reason, I cannot install some MODS while others can.
Oh yeah, Setekh, did you receive my email with the mission in it? I sent it to you for testing.
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Just an update....looks like this will be something coming up faaaaaaar in the future.
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Wait, so are people going to be designing missions specifically for this or can one submit any work that fits the criteria?
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Well CP, I never even tried to just RUN it... I immediately started poking around the VP file. The VP showed all of the files in it just fine, by name, but none of them were valid, legit files: for example, the hud tbl was a bunch of square ASCII characters that meant nothing when I clicked on it. Extracting them from the VP didn't help at all!
I agree, it's pretty strange. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) I suppose it was probably some kind of download error on my part... although a strange one indeed! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)