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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: lenard27 on April 04, 2007, 11:55:42 am
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U was just wondering if Vista is worth the upgrade money. Is it a lot better experience than XP? I'd rather hear from people that own it than me just using it in a store b/c that's not actual use. Also, does Freespace still work great on it? (had to be asked)
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Had it now for a few weeks just got my 64-bit version disc (havent installed it yet), I think its worth it (bought Vista Home Premium) however I dont think it would be worth to get the Basic version wich dosent have the new Aero interface.
Just a few small things i think is better over XP:
- Looks better
- The new file explorer is alot better
- The gadget bar on the desktop
- Its Error correcting program(if a program stops functioning it contact the microsoft server and looks for a solution to the problem)
- So far havent had any problem with older games (Even got Hostile Water: Anteus Rising to work and that didnt work on XP)
- Start menu works better
- Better support for drivers
These are just some small things I like about it and FS works.
/Dice
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- Its Error correcting program(if a program stops functioning it contact the microsoft server and looks for a solution to the problem)
im scared
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- Its Error correcting program(if a program stops functioning it contact the microsoft server and looks for a solution to the problem)
im scared
You should be but it actualy works atleast some of the time (Of course you really dont want any problems with the program in the first place but microsoft seems to have missed that part)
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I've heard (though not experainced) that the changes between usablity of XP and Vista are minor to the point of uselessness. Vista brings a lot of crap with it as well, and most of it is just not that useful at all.
Truthfully, while I have nearly no reason to get XP (98SE baby!) I have ABSOLUTELY no reason to ever own Vista. But then, I'm a goddamn luddite.
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I've heard (though not experainced) that the changes between usablity of XP and Vista are minor to the point of uselessness. Vista brings a lot of crap with it as well, and most of it is just not that useful at all.
Truthfully, while I have nearly no reason to get XP (98SE baby!) I have ABSOLUTELY no reason to ever own Vista. But then, I'm a goddamn luddite.
XP was a significant advance over 98SE (I've used both extensively). You simply have to turn off the crap in XP. Which isn't hard, takes me about 10 minutes after a reformat.
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As far as UI goes...Vista brings some things to the table that really aren't revolutionary but makes you want to know "why this wasn't done before". That said I think the UI changes are worthwhile regardless of if you can do Aero Glass or just Aero without the fancy stuff. Almost anything can improve on the terrible UI of 2000, 98, 95, etc.
Some technical and driver issues out of the gate but things are getting better. I'm testing it at work only with RC1 so I'm assuming a few things got better from there on in.
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Almost every time a new version of Windows is released for home use, it takes at least six months for majority of compatibility issues to be fixed. That and drivers and driver support are very immature for the first six months too.
Supposedly the first Service Pack to Vista should be released before end of the year, so when that is released is probably a good time to buy Vista. But only if you have a relatively new computer and Vista has something to offer you want.
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is it worth it now, no, will it be worth it down the line, yea.
my biggest concern is reverse compatability, i dotn want another 3rd of my games to stop working.
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my biggest concern is reverse compatability, i dotn want another 3rd of my games to stop working.
Havent had any problems sofar
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Alright, cool, so I'll get around to upgrading in a few months when most of the issues are ironed out
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No I don't think Vista is worth it.
I would stick with Windows XP.
I have Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005. And its almost the same thing.
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No I don't think Vista is worth it.
I would stick with Windows XP.
I have Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005. And its almost the same thing.
Hmm well Media Center is included in Vista Premium
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is it worth it now, no, will it be worth it down the line, yea.
my biggest concern is reverse compatability, i dotn want another 3rd of my games to stop working.
That shouldn't be much of a problem. Most games work fine. Some games run fine when compatibility mode is checked off. I think only a very small number have any serious issues. Most of the problems right now are still driver related. I think it will be late summer before some of that stuff will be sorted out.
If you have a brand new machine Vista might be worth it to take advantage of some of the new features...but if its older then I would skip it until you have a new machine to throw it at. So I wouldn't be jumping for it but I wouldn't necessarily shy away either.
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Things run too slow in it for me. I have a decent system too, almost 2 years old but it was kickass back in the day
amd X2 skt 939 4400+
2gb ram
256 gf 7800GT
I will stick with XP MCE for now.
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Oh yes maybe I should say this cause I was really pissed of at microsoft about the fact that the Vista Home Premium only comes in a 32-bit version when you buy it in a store (atleast here in sweden) and if you want the 64-bit version you have to order it after you have bought the 32-bit version for an extra 15$ (100 SEK) and wait a week or two until it comes......
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...not sure why you'd want a 64bit version right now. Drivers are terrible for 32bit right now...for 64bit its almost non-existant. It'll get better in two years I suspect.
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...not sure why you'd want a 64bit version right now. Drivers are terrible for 32bit right now...for 64bit its almost non-existant. It'll get better in two years I suspect.
Is it really that bad oh well guess I will have to install it on a second hard drive, but since I bought a core 2 Duo I want to be able to use it to its fullest and that you can only do if you have an OS optimised for a 64-bit CPU
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If you get Vista, you might just as well get the 64bit version. Regardless of whether you get 32bit or 64bit, you're bound to run into more or less problems within the first six months after its release. Mostly because of bad drivers.
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...not sure why you'd want a 64bit version right now. Drivers are terrible for 32bit right now...for 64bit its almost non-existant. It'll get better in two years I suspect.
Is it really that bad oh well guess I will have to install it on a second hard drive, but since I bought a core 2 Duo I want to be able to use it to its fullest and that you can only do if you have an OS optimised for a 64-bit CPU
I think its a mistake to assume that 64bit OS combined with 64bit CPU will just make things optimized. The rest of your software is still 32bit and its going to take a while for games and other bits of software to make the jump to 64bit versions. They sprang 64bit on us too early. It was a good move for AMD because it got them attention and as far as the server market is concerned the 64bit advantage is much more significant which is what they were mostly after.
Eventually 64bit everything will be around and then we'll have real 64bit computing...until then its just lip service in the consumer desktop area.
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No, ppgrading to Vista isn't worth it, upgrade to any of several Linux distributions instead.
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No, ppgrading to Vista isn't worth it, upgrade to any of several Linux distributions instead.
Horror :shaking: :shaking: :shaking:
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No, ppgrading to Vista isn't worth it, upgrade to any of several Linux distributions instead.
Which is great unless you want to use Adobe software or play games (except with WINE installed and even then). Linux is a great OS for tinkerers and server platforms and the like. Its also pretty good for people who have limited applications and are basically interested in e-mail, using the web, and basic interaction with IM software and some music. Thats actually a fair bit...but I have a Ubuntu and SUSE partitions on another hard drive that I barely use. I do just to be knowledgeable but I end up back in Windows because thats where my software is. GIMP is fine but its not Photoshop. Not yet. There are also still far too many hoops to jump through to make a Linux install fully featured with drivers and the like ready to go...I spent some serious time figuring it out and I consider myself an experienced computer user.
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No I don't think Vista is worth it.
I would stick with Windows XP.
I have Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005. And its almost the same thing.
Right, I wasn't aware that XP MCE included the...more then a dozen structural improvements in the Vista kernel, added the new interface, new security setup(not UAC), provided support for DX10, etc. :rolleyes:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying upgrade to Vista now(I'd wait for the summer) but comparing it to MCE is a bad joke waiting to happen.
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Vista is inevitable, but I'm not in a rush. I had a bad experience with the original XP (I bought it as soon as it came out) so I'm leaving it around 6-8 months to make sure there are no enormous security holes that have somehow been missed this time.
It's probably over-caution, for the main part, Vista doesn't seem to be causing most people too many problems, at least, not as bad as when XP came out, but I suppose it's a case of once bitten, twice shy.
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Its a good plan Flipside...I did the same thing. I got WinXP Home about 10 months after release. By that time drivers had settled down and most of the major problems had been worked out. Lots of people talk about how solid WinXP is...and it is now...but at the beginning it was just as bad as things are now for Vista and everyone was talking about how they were staying with Win98 because that was a solid OS. The pattern has been borne out so many times I'm not surprised by it anymore. But most people have very selective memories :)