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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: an0n on January 29, 2002, 03:47:00 pm

Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: an0n on January 29, 2002, 03:47:00 pm
Firstly, what the hell is it?
Secondly, http://www.activision.com/downloads/385.asp# (//"http://www.activision.com/downloads/385.asp#")  Try to download it from the activision website.

You need to enter your credit card number as 'age verification'. What a stinking piece of [- Censored -]. I ****ing hate when crappy, two-bit companies do stuff like this. Also, it says you've gotta be 17 to get it, yet 17 year olds can't get credit cards. And seen as how it's only 122mb and probably an add-on pack, you'd already have to have Quake3 and experienced all the 'Mature Audience' gore and death to run the thing. I HATE CORPORATES.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/mad.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/mad.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/mad.gif)

Okay, I'm done.....I'm still excruciatingly annoyed though.
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: an0n on January 29, 2002, 03:47:00 pm
And how come we can swear now?
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: vadar_1 on January 29, 2002, 04:33:00 pm
they still cant even make "gore" and "blood" realistic enough to even immitate what we see on daytime TV, and i wont be able to get a credit card till im 18, yet according to them im "legal" to download the addon, i hate those dumb****ers
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: an0n on January 29, 2002, 04:58:00 pm
When I read the page I was about one patronising statement away from putting my head through my monitor.

They'll let 8 year olds watch Jerry Springer but they won't let 16 and 17 year olds dowload Quake stuff. That's just f*cked up.
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 29, 2002, 05:19:00 pm
Ugh. Well, I guess to a degree they HAVE to secure against polluting the little kiddies' minds, but this seems a bit zealous. And suspicious. After all, why your credit card? Why not your driver's license info or your SSN? They're irritatingly patronizing, but I'm suprised at anyone who's not used to it. We're friggin' second-class citizens, everyone seems to treat someone more than 2 years younger than them as subhuman idiots anyhow...

Anyway, if you really want this, enough to compromise someone's credit account, I recommend one of the following:

1. Ask your bloody parents. You're under 18, you're not free from prying eyes, if they really care they'll find and delete it anyhow after all your hard work. They should have few objections normally (after all, you already are in possession of at least two violent games, one VERY so...), except that possibly they don't wanna give out that info.

2. Crack it. It's not like you've never seen a credit card before, imitate the PIN numbers. Make up a name. After an hour's attempt, if you still don't have it (they can't be checking THAT closely, to do it in that time), borrow a card for a few minutes, or find an old one. This is why you always keep an outdated credit card someone forgot to cut up on hand, along with an if necessary fake driver's license.

3. Respond to one of those American Express "You've been pre-approved for this very special deal!" letters. They really don't check. Problem is, if you spend any real amount of actual money on it or end up getting buggered if Activision uses/sells this info, you're dead in every since, including possibly the literal (people take crappy credit records VERY seriously). Advantage is, this is more legal than the others, and most likely to work. It'll just take a few weeks.
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 29, 2002, 05:23:00 pm
Oh, and:

4. Guess the file name. Might be difficult, but figuring out the .exe link itself will bypass all security measures. Depends on what kinda system they use to store the stuff, and whether it's in a separate subdirectory (I can tell you right now it's not gonna be in the "downloads" directory proper, corporate pages have organizations methods that would put the devil to shame as torture implements for hackers)

[This message has been edited by Stryke 9 (edited 01-29-2002).]
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: Stryke 9 on January 29, 2002, 05:27:00 pm
'Ere's a hint at the structure- take a look at how the Spiderman trailer is linked. That goes directly to the file. And don't say I never did anything for you.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: IceFire on January 29, 2002, 06:23:00 pm
Man, thats pretty twisted.  I get the concept of Mature rating and I have a big thing against some of the more serious age discrimination but this really takes it.
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: CP5670 on January 29, 2002, 09:39:00 pm
I personally think that the whole idea of restricting "objectionable" content due to age is complete nonsense.
Title: OT - Quake: Sidrial
Post by: vadar_1 on January 29, 2002, 10:25:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by Stryke 9:
Oh, and:

4. Guess the file name. Might be difficult, but figuring out the .exe link itself will bypass all security measures. Depends on what kinda system they use to store the stuff, and whether it's in a separate subdirectory (I can tell you right now it's not gonna be in the "downloads" directory proper, corporate pages have organizations methods that would put the devil to shame as torture implements for hackers)

[This message has been edited by Stryke 9 (edited 01-29-2002).]


they probably load the file through a randomized htaccess auth file, so the onsite script needs to send the encoded password from the algorithm they use to the server in order to fetch auth rights to the directory and file... usually