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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Unknown Target on April 12, 2007, 01:30:52 pm
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Seems to be some sort of late April Fool's joke?
http://www.blizzard.com/whoa/
Blizzard Entertainment is proud to announce the forthcoming real-time strategy game set in the World of Warcraft universe, Warcraft: Heroes of Azeroth!
EDIT: I actually fell for it, but realized what it was and can't delete my post, soo...here it is, edited to cover up my stupidity :p
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WHoA comes in *four* different box covers
(that's TWICE as many as WoW!)
:lol:
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The funny thing about that whole "different box covers" thing is that some people actually care about that sort of thing. No doubt some even bought games several times just to collect the different boxes!
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sad thing is i really wish this was true...I want blizzard to make a return to the single player game... :blah:
where's Starcraft 2? i lost interest in WoW after a month, it was just kind of dull. Starcraft and the even older Warcraft 2 had much more compelling multiplayer awesomeness that you didn't have to forgo beer to pay for. I miss the odd school direct modem connection too!
I'm old school like that, but the best fun i've had with multiplayer when it was with a group of people i actually knew (no offense to anyone here, but i don't KNOW you!) and laying the smackdown on them with a siege tank offensive.
BLIZZARD PLEASE COME BACK TO THE SINGLE PLAYERS OF THE WORLD! we miss you...
rant complete!
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I'll second that. I want to see StarCraft 2...!!!!
This is a pretty subtle but funny joke. Very well crafted :)
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I'll second that. I want to see StarCraft 2...!!!!
This is a pretty subtle but funny joke. Very well crafted :)
i have personally boycotted blizzard untill they release a non-mmorpg-raped starcraft 2 :D
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I know what you mean...I realize the MMORPG's are huge money makers and all but I hate a monthly subscription thing. Mostly because I tend to play games for years...and I tend to leave them...for weeks or months at a time and come back to them later. So a MMORPG would be a huge waste of money for me. I want singleplayer and free multiplayer!
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Yeah, I too want a sequal to Starcraft.
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I know what you mean...I realize the MMORPG's are huge money makers and all but I hate a monthly subscription thing. Mostly because I tend to play games for years...and I tend to leave them...for weeks or months at a time and come back to them later. So a MMORPG would be a huge waste of money for me. I want singleplayer and free multiplayer!
Or at lerast pay-per-play multiplayer...
Let's face it - the monthly subscriptions are way too huge ATM.
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I know what you mean...I realize the MMORPG's are huge money makers and all but I hate a monthly subscription thing. Mostly because I tend to play games for years...and I tend to leave them...for weeks or months at a time and come back to them later. So a MMORPG would be a huge waste of money for me. I want singleplayer and free multiplayer!
Or at lerast pay-per-play multiplayer...
Let's face it - the monthly subscriptions are way too huge ATM.
Pay per play would kill it for me too. I would never play if thats how it was going to be done.
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Aye, Starcraft 2!!!
*lights up torches*
Really cool joke.
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Guys, heres a little tidbit for you all...
Blizzard is going to South Korea next month for a 'Big Announcement'. Gee, I wonder what that could be.
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Guys, heres a little tidbit for you all...
Blizzard is going to South Korea next month for a 'Big Announcement'. Gee, I wonder what that could be.
Link? :)
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The big announcement will probably be "StarCraft Minesweeper for Windows Vista" :D
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What's with all this whining about multiplayer subscription costs? The money you use to buy a game is used to cover costs for development and publishing, the money you pay for multiplayer is used to cover costs for server hardware, maintenance, bandwidth and further software development.
As a consumer I want cheaper games and cheaper multiplayer costs, but I also understand why multiplayer may cost. When I still played WoW actively, I though I got my money's worth. I would have nothing against cheaper subscription costs, but there's no point in whining about it because I know the money is used to make the service profitable, continuous service and fund further development of the service.
Would I like to see a successor to StarCraft? Hell yes. Would I mind if Blizzard would develop StarCraft MMORPG? I wouldn't. I just hope the successor to SC comes first.
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What's with all this whining about multiplayer subscription costs? The money you use to buy a game is used to cover costs for development and publishing, the money you pay for multiplayer is used to cover costs for server hardware, maintenance, bandwidth and further software development.
As a consumer I want cheaper games and cheaper multiplayer costs, but I also understand why multiplayer may cost. When I still played WoW actively, I though I got my money's worth. I would have nothing against cheaper subscription costs, but there's no point in whining about it because I know the money is used to make the service profitable, continuous service and fund further development of the service.
Would I like to see a successor to StarCraft? Hell yes. Would I mind if Blizzard would develop StarCraft MMORPG? I wouldn't. I just hope the successor to SC comes first.
Yeah, but server maintainance doesn't cost 500000000$ a year my boy...
If it was 1$ a month per player then it would be OK..
For WOW alone that would ammount to 3million a month.. which is more than enough for any and all server costs. But 10-15$ a month? WTF? Thats plain highway robbery.
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Highway robbery? Maybe if it was 50$ month, but 15$ isn't much, you already use as much for food every day.
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What's with all this whining about multiplayer subscription costs? The money you use to buy a game is used to cover costs for development and publishing, the money you pay for multiplayer is used to cover costs for server hardware, maintenance, bandwidth and further software development.
As a consumer I want cheaper games and cheaper multiplayer costs, but I also understand why multiplayer may cost. When I still played WoW actively, I though I got my money's worth. I would have nothing against cheaper subscription costs, but there's no point in whining about it because I know the money is used to make the service profitable, continuous service and fund further development of the service.
Would I like to see a successor to StarCraft? Hell yes. Would I mind if Blizzard would develop StarCraft MMORPG? I wouldn't. I just hope the successor to SC comes first.
Yeah, but server maintainance doesn't cost 500000000$ a year my boy...
If it was 1$ a month per player then it would be OK..
For WOW alone that would ammount to 3million a month.. which is more than enough for any and all server costs. But 10-15$ a month? WTF? Thats plain highway robbery.
Millions of people are readily prepared to pay for it, and online gaming is not a monopoly, therefore it can't be defined as highway robbery in any sense. And I'm pretty sure they don't employ people in near slavery either. Perhaps you think profit margins are fine as long as they're low? :rolleyes:
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Its certainly not highway robbery because as you say...its not a monopoly so the MMORPG publishers/developers charge whatever the market will support. But I could care less about that. Either its free or I'm not playing it online and thats my price. As I mentioned before...my playing time and style does not make a monthly charge worthwhile and I'm far too economically minded to do any sort of pay per play system either. All I want is basically what WarCraft 3 and StarCraft offered...War3 was even better...I log in, I select my settings, and I hit play and quick match matches me up for a good game. Then I may play 3 more games like that and then not play for two months.
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Highway robbery? Maybe if it was 50$ month, but 15$ isn't much, you already use as much for food every day.
Considering you pay for hte game itself, I'd say it is.
For an average US citizen, 15$ ain't that much...but when you earn 400-800$ a month then it is quite a lot.
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Well, if you can't afford it, then just don't buy it. There are obviously millions of other people who are cheerfully paying their fee every month. If Blizzard's able to get so many people to play a game and rack up such big profits in the process, more power to 'em. Last time I checked, the concept of supplying a product for a certain price that people are willing to pay is just an example of a little something called "capitalism."
That being said, WoW's gameplay style doesn't interest me, but I have been paying a monthly subscription fee to Gametap for the past few months, largely to play Myst Online, so I'm definitely not averse to the whole business model.
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I can't speak for others...its not about affording something...its about the subscription model versus value for the money and the model doesn't work for people like me. Can't devote the time, don't want to devote the time, otherwise I wouldn't mind playing something like World of WarCraft.
Not sure what the resistance is but I feel completely justified in criticizing the model in terms of my own interests and perceptions of value for the money. Yet another capitalistic realm :)
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BUMP!!! :bump:
Ok so it looks like this may be moving out of the joke category and into a fact.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25594825&sid=6169864&action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25594825&sid=6169864&action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0)
While incredibly vague, there is signs that we may finally be getting Starcraft 2 (come on, why else would you launch your new game in the land of all things starcraft?). but with nothing more official then the fact that a new game is going to be announced May 19, 20... I expect we'll see rumors flying around
anyone else come across anything?
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Well, if you can't afford it, then just don't buy it. There are obviously millions of other people who are cheerfully paying their fee every month. If Blizzard's able to get so many people to play a game and rack up such big profits in the process, more power to 'em. Last time I checked, the concept of supplying a product for a certain price that people are willing to pay is just an example of a little something called "capitalism."
But..havn't you checked lately? Capitalism sucks.....
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Well, if you can't afford it, then just don't buy it.
Sound advice on paper, but in a world where single player computer games cost between £20 and £50 or so (approximately) as a one time cost, surely you can see that's not much comfort for those that might want to play these games if it weren't for the subscription fee?
Lets see now... $15 times 12 (months) is $180
Lets say a game has been out for five years at that price... that's $900.
Each.
For every single person that plays these games.
And in the case of WoW and so on, thats a lot of people. Lets suppose that only 5000 people play the game for five years...
$900 times 5000 is $4,500,000
I'd be interested to see the maths on keeping a single WoW server running for five years? I'm willing to bet it's nowhere near that amount of money...
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thankfully in eve online, you can pay for gametime with game money ;)
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Well, if you can't afford it, then just don't buy it. There are obviously millions of other people who are cheerfully paying their fee every month. If Blizzard's able to get so many people to play a game and rack up such big profits in the process, more power to 'em. Last time I checked, the concept of supplying a product for a certain price that people are willing to pay is just an example of a little something called "capitalism."
But..havn't you checked lately? Capitalism sucks.....
Yea, because communism is so much better :rolleyes:
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I'm with IceFire on this one. I was really excited for Phantasy Star Universe because I remember having a good amount of fun playing Phantasy Star Online with friends.. but then I found out PSU's only multiplayer option was pay to play. I've yet to pick up the game solely for this reason. Pay $15 a month to play just doesn't work for me I guess.
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the definitive ranking
monthly payments = :no:
one time purchase = if we must
free games = :yes:
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Its as simple as this Blizzard is becoming a new EA... on the bad things. Their best teams\staff left quite some time ago (some went and made Flagship Studios, the rest went for ArenaNet). Imo Blizzard lost their originality, and game superiority... their just falling into decadence (game making originality I mean... not financial :P), and WoW proves just that, as well as vapouring Starcraft Ghost.
As for the monthly fees to play WoW, I can only say its a fairly large amount of rubbish.
I play Guildwars... I payed for the game once, and dont have to bother about it ever again. I can play today, and play again after 1 year without playing. The player base is as big as WoWs, the servers work just as fine, and we get our updates regularly.
Only things I had to pay for were the stand alone expansions, and I only payed for them if I wanted obviously (if I didnt buy them, I just wouldnt have access to some content), which used to come out every 6 months, the final one is being released this summer, and then its 3 years untill GW2. :P
Even funnier is that even with the paying for "server upkeep", Blizzard still manages to have problems with players accounts, from what I hear from players.
Heck the choice is easy :P