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Title: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Knarfe1000 on April 13, 2007, 09:51:16 am
Because some other project depend on the release of the 3.6.9 VP´s I want to know, when it´s finished (I thought it was announced for the beginning of 2007).
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: aRaven on April 13, 2007, 10:15:25 am
i assume when it's done!

but i am also eagerly awaiting the damn 3.6.9 mvps...can't wait for the muzzleflashes and stuff!  ;7
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 13, 2007, 03:45:17 pm
im hoping thrashmans mid-range orion gets in there instead of the poly-wasting 3.6.8 one. you cant even see a difference exept the framerate drop.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 13, 2007, 04:06:12 pm
Taka, what are your system specs?  You can use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php) to find out if you're not sure of some of them.  (D'l link on top left of that page.)  I'm wondering why Orions are such a problem for you.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Cobra on April 13, 2007, 04:30:56 pm
im hoping thrashmans mid-range orion gets in there instead of the poly-wasting 3.6.8 one. you cant even see a difference exept the framerate drop.

How about no? The Orion won't be replaced with a lower-poly version. If people don't like it, they can always download something else.

And what the hell do you mean by polygon "wasting"?

And I'm eagerly awaiting 3.6.9 MVPs. :nervous:
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: diceman111 on April 14, 2007, 06:57:33 am
More polygons to the people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and takashi buy yourself a used Geforce 6000 series card or something that way you can play with relativly good graphics.....
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Dysko on April 14, 2007, 07:23:37 am
I have a GeForce FX 5500, and MVPs run without problems (except for mv_adveffects, obviously).
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: diceman111 on April 14, 2007, 07:30:27 am
I had an old Geforce 6600GT on my old comp could run Freespace with almost everything turned on with a decent frame rate (had an old P4 processor on that one so that kinda limited it a bit I think)
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: DaBrain on April 14, 2007, 07:51:25 am
I'm sorry, I'm working on the VPs. There have been some test versions already, but they had quite a few bugs.

Fixing this problems became pretty complicated. Texture names are important to the new management. I had to rename a lot of texturenames in the POFs. Plus not all textures look the same for the lower lods.

So I got to check a lot of things to apply one texture to one ship. And it's hard to keep the overview, so I prefer working through the bug list in one pass, to avoid making new ones.

I simply didn't have the time to do that, so I picked up smaller tasks to work on.
Don't worry, I will complete it.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on April 14, 2007, 09:01:42 am
Hey cool, the Loki might be done in time to get in after all. :D
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 14, 2007, 10:43:00 am
you guys realize most people who gotn open have crappy systems, right?

i like the low-poly loki. the shiny opaque cockpit adds a "stealth-recon" look to it. -see tech description-
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Unknown Target on April 14, 2007, 10:49:02 am
Shut up takashi! Shut up about your goddamn computer! Just shut up shut up shut up! Please for the love of god! We're not going to downgrade everything just so YOU can play! Other people who have low end systems at least have the sense to turn down the details! Why can't you and just please shut up about your stupid system!
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: diceman111 on April 14, 2007, 10:53:36 am
you guys realize most people who gotn open have crappy systems, right?

i like the low-poly loki. the shiny opaque cockpit adds a "stealth-recon" look to it. -see tech description-


Cant you just use an older build then or something I upgraded my computer so I could use all the features (ok not for FS2 I admit but so that I could run max graphics in Supreme commander and C&C 3 at 1280x1024 :-) )
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 14, 2007, 10:54:38 am
Hmph.  Slobber on this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2000380048+106790703+4025&name=%2425+-+%2450), takashi.  ;)
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 14, 2007, 11:54:44 am
a 64mb card!? i have a 32!
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: diceman111 on April 14, 2007, 12:09:53 pm
a 64mb card!? i have a 32!

Honestly how old are your computer????????

(just wondering)
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 14, 2007, 12:44:54 pm
as old as freespace 2 retail.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 14, 2007, 12:53:58 pm
:ick: Build yourself a new one... You can usually make a half-decent one for prolly $400-$800.  You already have keyboard, mouse, monitor, and speakers... just need what's in the box.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: brandx0 on April 14, 2007, 01:09:56 pm
Damn I wish we could ban that guy... *sigh*
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 14, 2007, 06:43:05 pm
you mean jordan pelovitz, aka the guy who demeans people who live in a closed world gfx-card wise?

please do.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Vretsu on April 14, 2007, 07:37:47 pm
I hate people who refuse to update despite being desperately behind the times, slowing down the entire industry in the process.  :hopping:

"Nurr, a 2mb file. I can't download this with my 13k modem!!!1 PLEASE BREAK THE FILE INTO FIVE HUNDRED TWO BYTE FILES, INCONVENIANCING EVERYONE ELSE WITH THE SENSE TO UPGRADE!!!"

"Omfg, my 3mb videocard doesn't meet the minimum requirements for your awesome game!! PLEASE DOWNGRADE EVERYTHING AND STONEWALL ALL PROGRESS I AM A DINOSAUR PLEASE HELP ME RAWR RAWR!!!"

DIEEE!!

*lunges at takashi*



Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Cobra on April 14, 2007, 08:28:18 pm
:eek2: Awesome.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Unknown Target on April 14, 2007, 08:29:36 pm
you mean jordan pelovitz, aka the guy who demeans people who live in a closed world gfx-card wise?

please do.


Words fail me at your stupidity.

All humorous responses will be suspended for the time being, because of total neural shutdown due to an overly-large moronic post intake.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 15, 2007, 02:30:00 am
Look at the rofl section in my siggy.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: S-99 on April 15, 2007, 03:03:20 am
Taka is apparently off his bipolar and schizo meds.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 15, 2007, 03:17:12 am
:lol:  -- At least, IMO, he is slowly improving.  HLP osmosis for ya.   ;)
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: MP-Ryan on April 15, 2007, 02:52:37 pm
a 64mb card!? i have a 32!

Considering you could probably find a 128 MB Radeon 9800 Pro or GF4 Ti4200 on Ebay for less than $15 USD, you have absolutely NOTHING to complain about.

Good grief, if you want to pay the shipping across the border (CAN-US) I'll mail you a 64 MB GF2 MX400 for free.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Mobius on April 15, 2007, 03:46:47 pm
"Nurr, a 2mb file. I can't download this with my 13k modem!!!1 PLEASE BREAK THE FILE INTO FIVE HUNDRED TWO BYTE FILES, INCONVENIANCING EVERYONE ELSE WITH THE SENSE TO UPGRADE!!!"


My connection is even slower, and I've never requested the such a terrible scatter.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Cobra on April 15, 2007, 04:55:07 pm
a 64mb card!? i have a 32!

Considering you could probably find a 128 MB Radeon 9800 Pro or GF4 Ti4200 on Ebay for less than $15 USD, you have absolutely NOTHING to complain about.

Good grief, if you want to pay the shipping across the border (CAN-US) I'll mail you a 64 MB GF2 MX400 for free.

That'll just make him complain more, I had a 64MB GeForce4 MX4000 and it could barely handle 3.6.5.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 15, 2007, 07:28:37 pm
The link I gave him showed several decent cards for $30-$40 USD.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: mnftg64 on April 15, 2007, 08:53:34 pm
Bob's new beams should definately get put in 3.6.9

Also, the FS2 campaign with Lightspeed's nebulea's might be good. Of course that would mean his nebulea's need to be included as well.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 16, 2007, 11:49:33 am
Bob's new beams should definately get put in 3.6.9

Also, the FS2 campaign with Lightspeed's nebulea's might be good. Of course that would mean his nebulea's need to be included as well.
Put'em in the 3.6.9 MVPs
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Sparky on April 16, 2007, 12:50:49 pm
Dude... if my Pc can handle it, then yours should be able to. I pry have one of the slowest pos's on here, 900mhz celeron w/ 512mb ram, geforce 5200FX PCI card. I play high res with some slowdowns, just used the shockwave mediavp without the animations and i'm good.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: CP5670 on April 16, 2007, 02:22:03 pm
To be honest, I doubt his problem has anything to do with his computer.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 16, 2007, 08:38:59 pm
ive never requested a 5 poly orion. im requesting one that actualy uses the polys to add detail.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 16, 2007, 08:42:49 pm
*chokes*
:nervous:
:wtf:
*turns and leaves, holding his head to prevent migraine*
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Cobra on April 16, 2007, 09:56:53 pm
ive never requested a 5 poly orion. im requesting one that actualy uses the polys to add detail.

Ok, that is one of the dumbest things I have EVER heard you say.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Wobble73 on April 17, 2007, 05:22:38 am


That'll just make him complain more, I had a 64MB GeForce4 MX4000 and it could barely handle 3.6.5.

Not really, 3.6.9 is really good. I have a 64mb GeForce4 MX420 and it runs fine, granted the framerate drops to about 20fps (and without Adveffects.vp) sometimes but it's manageable. IIRC 3.6.5 had a few memory leaks which is why your card may have struggled with it.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Vretsu on April 17, 2007, 05:35:33 pm
I would like to formally place a humble request for a 15k poly Orion. :p
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Mobius on April 17, 2007, 06:36:21 pm
The Colossus must be upgraded ASAP.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Darklord42 on April 19, 2007, 06:50:50 pm
Yah the whole game is named after it.  What does that say about us with a low polly collosus.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Vretsu on April 19, 2007, 10:27:53 pm
The Colossus must be upgraded ASAP.

Aye. The Colossus desperately, DESPERATELY needs to be upgraded.

The fighterbay is a frickin' triangle haphazardly carved out of the ship's underside.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 20, 2007, 09:26:06 pm
i shall pof>cob and redo the fighterbay! then you will love the new collosus!*

*if you have no retinas.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: S-99 on April 21, 2007, 10:50:59 pm
And the  upgrade from triangle to pentagon begins....
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: TrashMan on April 22, 2007, 04:04:25 am
Does that mean we'll have the USA military Command stationed on the Colossuss? ;7
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Grizzly on April 22, 2007, 04:29:24 am
Does that mean we'll have the USA military Command stationed on the Colossuss? ;7


Good idea! then it gets blown up for a reason!

The mayor slowdown I think for the 3.6.9. Mv's is that everything is going to be DDS'ed.

Am I right?
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Mobius on April 22, 2007, 07:07:22 am
It should be upgraded, yeah, but not just because of the fighterbay. The whole model looks poor when we use the "specular" option. The model is suffering of many other problems...the turrets are damn low poly and the passage between one texture and another isn't harmonic...
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 22, 2007, 12:11:08 pm
when you build a ship with two styles from two species would it look very harmonic?
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: S-99 on April 22, 2007, 07:40:07 pm
when two species came together and designed a huge ass hybrid ship, they unleashed a new type of "horny" in the galaxy. Every ganymede will have it's time with colossus.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: takashi on April 22, 2007, 09:47:48 pm
your creepy.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: jr2 on April 22, 2007, 09:48:58 pm
ya
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Ravage on June 06, 2007, 01:34:43 pm
So...umm...back to the subject of the post...Any idea on the lead-time for a release of the 3.6.9 mediavps?
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: taylor on June 06, 2007, 02:17:52 pm
So...umm...back to the subject of the post...Any idea on the lead-time for a release of the 3.6.9 mediavps?
Umm... "never".  ;)

The 3.6.9 VPs are being skipped and we'll go straight to 3.6.10 instead.  Part of this is lack of available time from DaBrain (the man is just busy), part of it is new/modified features in 3.6.10 that handle the content better of fix content related bugs.  About another month should see 3.6.10 released, and I think that the 3.6.10 VPs will follow shortly after, or be released at the same time.
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: Ravage on June 06, 2007, 02:25:14 pm
Thanks for the update Taylor.  I look forward to the 3.6.10 vps then!
Title: Re: 3.6.9 VP´s release?
Post by: TrashMan on June 06, 2007, 03:29:24 pm
Does that mean we'll have the USA military Command stationed on the Colossuss? ;7


Good idea! then it gets blown up for a reason!


Wouldn't the NTF have to be re-named to GLA? (Global Liberation Army from C&C Generals)