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Title: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 19, 2007, 10:49:15 am
Meet the Federal FTX-1A "Thor" Assault Fighter. its main purpose in life is to tote around Thor's Hammer, a mid power particle beam cannon also lovingly known as "The Hammer".
this is really my first experiment with animated components on  a fighter, and it gives me a flimsy pretense to use the phrase "its hammer time!" <----- not really though. still have to do some final texturing details then its on to fighting with that code.
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor4.jpg)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor3.jpg)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor2.jpg)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor1-1.jpg)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor-1.jpg)
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 19, 2007, 11:26:07 am
That is a work of FriKKin art !! :D
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: TrashMan on June 19, 2007, 02:19:09 pm
Firring great!

With what did you do the texture and the mapping itself?
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 19, 2007, 03:01:07 pm
to the good Colonol: thank you kindly!
to Trashman: i used good old Gimp Shop to make the textures, Paint to make the simple little decals i didn't borrow, bits and pieces of borred textures from here and there, (Scooby Doo's and stock game maps mostly)
and i use Lithium to Poly map it. i hated that program at first until i sat down and made my self learn it. now its great...kinda tedious though. the model was born in truspace 3.2...i haven't grown out of that program yet...mostly because i love the interface on it and i dont have to convert from one format or another to COB to POF so it saves a few step at the cost of not being as powerful as like MAX. 3.2 is doing fine by me for now...that might change down the line.

here's some updated pics. details make a huge difference.
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor4-1.jpg)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor3-1.jpg)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor2-1.jpg)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor1-2.jpg)
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h308/t64smyhotrod/thor-2.jpg)
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Topgun on June 19, 2007, 03:27:55 pm
OMG!!! you made that in truespace!! *Pays homage*
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: lefkos on June 19, 2007, 03:59:24 pm
WOW
That fighter is FRAKKIN awesome!
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Roanoke on June 19, 2007, 04:09:50 pm
...mostly because i love the interface...

*splutter* what?what?what?


 ;)

nice fighter BTW
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Alan Bolte on June 19, 2007, 04:24:11 pm
I loooove it. Can't even find anything to compare it to properly.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Mustang19 on June 19, 2007, 04:39:35 pm
 :wtf:

The best fighter I've ever seen. Just one question, poly count?
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 19, 2007, 04:51:19 pm
Completely triangulated it sits at 7030 faces including all subobjects. total triangulation might not be needed though, i'll have to see.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Sarafan on June 19, 2007, 06:16:25 pm
Incredible, amazing work! :yes: Do you plan to get it on FS?
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Raven2001 on June 19, 2007, 06:47:54 pm
Your truly getting good on the modelling part, and your artistic feel is cool as well :)

Try drawing textures from scratch now :D
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: gevatter Lars on June 19, 2007, 06:55:35 pm
That is truely a very nice fighter. The texturingjob is also greate. I would love to see that thing in action.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Unknown Target on June 19, 2007, 07:21:25 pm
Wow, that is kick ass.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Alikchi on June 19, 2007, 07:30:06 pm
That is absolutely amazing.

I like the feel of your stuff. It's very jaggedy and aggressive, if that makes me sense. Makes me think of anime.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Black Wolf on June 19, 2007, 10:09:24 pm
As much as I like the technical aspects of it - it's well modelled, beautifully textured etc. etc. I'll never, ever like the idea of offset cockpits from a player's perspective. It's just going to be the annoying firing configuration of the Ursa multiplied by a factor of four or five.

Still, it looks cool.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 20, 2007, 03:40:26 am
to the good Colonol: thank you kindly!

The model was born in truspace 3.2...i haven't grown out of that program yet...mostly because i love the interface on it and i dont have to convert from one format or another to COB to POF
TS5> lets you revert to a TS3 layout you know :nod:  I love modelling in TS2.1 then opening it in a lter edition of TS myself :)
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Water on June 20, 2007, 03:44:52 am
Looks like Freespace may get a BFG  after all  ;)
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Flipside on June 20, 2007, 04:01:07 am
Very nice neat job there! Whilst I wouldn't exactly describe it as 'Freespacey' it looks good enough that it's a fact I'd probably quite happily ignore if it appeared in-game ;)

For some reason it makes me think 'Taidan Assault Fighter' :)
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 20, 2007, 07:10:59 am
It reminds me of a WC4 Banshee and something Tachyon.... But its unique still :)
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Wobble73 on June 20, 2007, 09:37:57 am
"Impressive pilot!"
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 20, 2007, 06:31:30 pm
heh...BFG.
hopefully i can table that out right. if not, im sure somebodies got a nasty gun they can use instead. i'm still trying to figure out how fast and manuverable i want it. i'm thinking with 6 engines it'll have a descent cruise speed, but due to size and purpose, it'll maneuver about like the Aries take or give. I'll have to play with it in game and get a feel for how it should handle. I'm about to embark on finishing the cockpit tub. the tub is straight forward all the panels and controls and such is a different story. trying to maintain a balance of interesting and none hindering, as it already has a visual handycap that i think is acceptable on the grounds that this is not a pure dogfighter, it'll hold its own sure, but its really meant to just flat out make bad things go away. anyways back to work with me, so i can get this done and turn it loose.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Water on June 21, 2007, 02:32:15 am
Another option is to make it a sniper with zoom function. Give it some speed and to add balance a really crappy turn circle.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 21, 2007, 03:02:46 am
I war defiance style?
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Bobboau on June 21, 2007, 07:43:03 am
first thing I thought is it looked like it came directly from some anime.

and I love TS's interface too.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 21, 2007, 11:22:21 am
i guess you can trace the gun idea back to Cowboy Bebop, you know the big gun on Spike's fighter. i thought that was a neat idea.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Colonol Dekker on June 21, 2007, 11:38:03 am
Cowboy Bepop =  :yes: MAke the Bebop someone............ :nod:
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 22, 2007, 01:21:10 pm
it is possible to have 3 gun banks instead of the normal 2 right? i'm not on  flight of fancy i hope.


Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Water on June 22, 2007, 03:09:10 pm
it is possible to have 3 gun banks instead of the normal 2 right? i'm not on  flight of fancy i hope.
yes for guns and also for missiles
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 22, 2007, 03:20:09 pm
sweet.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 25, 2007, 12:30:47 pm
Beta is ready for you folks to tinker with. same deal...any troubles let me know. everything seems stable.
have fun!
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Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Topgun on June 25, 2007, 02:23:51 pm
What do you mean you can't get TBM's working?
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 26, 2007, 09:25:44 am
i would make it like shipname.tbm, fred would load fine but the table for the ship was just out right ignored. so i just add straight onto the table to avoid that problem.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Woolie Wool on June 26, 2007, 09:29:22 am
It should be shipname-shp.tbm.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Topgun on June 26, 2007, 09:31:59 am
um, you sure it had the TBM extension and not txt? did you put the tbm into a mod folder? if you did you need to add -mod [modfolder] command line to fred, where [modfolder] is the name of the folder you put it in.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 26, 2007, 09:49:41 am
nope i made sure it was TBM and not TXT. i even took the Ezechial TBM deleted its info, dropped in my info and saved as shipnamehere.tbm.
nada. no mod folder, just straight data/tables. i was actually just looking round and i saw something like shipname-shp.tbm. maybe my filename was wrong in that it was missing that -shp part?

edit: the little icons even matched
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Getter Robo G on June 26, 2007, 04:47:00 pm
hmm try this (cause it sounds like the old "save as" problem I used to have with table files getting corrupted into txt files...)

Take an actual .tbm file and copy it
then rename it to your final lable
(this ensures it IS a .tbm file)

Open it and delete info, add your own.
SAVE FILE!!!!! Do NOT use "save as", EVER!!!
File should be a valid.tbm (in theory) same as when I edit custom ship or weapon.tbls

Tell me if this worked for you, unless you found another way or it stopped corrupting on you.

Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Topgun on June 26, 2007, 05:00:48 pm
or that's not the problem.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 26, 2007, 05:24:36 pm
To Getter:
that worked out nicely, thanks! now for the question. additions to the weapons table via TBM, does each weapon need a separate TBM or can multiple weapon entries be listed in one TBM?
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Topgun on June 26, 2007, 05:51:06 pm
tons and tons weapons can fit in a tbm.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 26, 2007, 06:35:07 pm
excellent. im going start pulling all my table mods and saving them toTBM. it is so much cleaner!
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Wobble73 on June 27, 2007, 04:43:04 am
[Mr Burns voice] excellent. [/Mr Burns Voice] im going start pulling all my table mods and saving them toTBM. it is so much cleaner!

Fixed  :lol:
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Stormkeeper on June 28, 2007, 07:50:15 pm
-looks at fighter-

-looks at own nooby WiP-

-depression-


Awesome fighter, though.

Now i wish maya would work with fs2.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Topgun on June 29, 2007, 10:01:26 am
-looks at fighter-

-looks at own nooby WiP-

-depression-


Awesome fighter, though.

Now i wish maya would work with fs2.


Why does it not work?  :wtf:
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 29, 2007, 05:18:58 pm
Just a heads up, someone slipped a trojan into my lancer RAR on sharbigfiles.com, im going to kill the links to this model and the lancer downloads to keep it from spreading around. if you downloaded them and havn't done so already run your antivirius gizmos, if you use sharebigfiles hunt down a new file host, that ones has the crabs. i'm real sorry for the hassel folks and i beg you to use reasonable sized stones for throwing at me, please no boulders as those really hurt! 
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Stormkeeper on June 30, 2007, 09:51:03 am
-looks at fighter-

-looks at own nooby WiP-

-depression-


Awesome fighter, though.

Now i wish maya would work with fs2.


Why does it not work?  :wtf:

Because ... it doesn't save in cob, does it ? o_O

=edit=

nope, it doesn't. Dang.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: --Steve-O-- on June 30, 2007, 04:06:39 pm
um...hmm, what format does maya save the model as? if you have Lithium unwrapper you can open models of several different formats and save them as cobs when needed. so in essesnce it performs as a texture mapper and model converter for the poor man.
supported file types for lith are:
.LUM <--- this is liths personal file type
.OBJ
.3ds
.asc
.iwo
.x
.dxf
.cob
.ms3d
.nod
.mdl
.md2
.md3
.prm
.smf
.pof
.oof
.peo
.geo
.sod
.l3d
.3do
.act
.bdy
.skn
.bmf
.mdc
.*ndo

if none of these match try looking up, what was it 3d explorer. if i remember right you can convert with it, but it a pay program with a 30 day free trial. if lith works that is awsome because its free!
go here to nab it.
http://www.sharecg.com/v/5169/software-and-tools/LithUnwrap---Free-UV-Mapper-for-Windows?PSID=bdf7d4d644e9cfb49f4d3f3d3dc8ee63
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 03, 2007, 08:44:32 am
... I love you steve.

-hugs steve-

Now, off to maya!
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: TrashMan on July 03, 2007, 09:42:54 am
Lithium Unwrapper is a modelers best friend  :nod:
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 04, 2007, 08:39:11 am
... Maya can save it as DXF_FBX, extension .dxf , but lith says that "There was an error reading the file."

I tried with a regular cube too, it gives me the same message ...
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Topgun on July 04, 2007, 08:51:36 am
Truespace 3.2 can open DXF, use that.
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Flipside on July 04, 2007, 09:08:14 am
Isn't the standard model format for Maya .obj?
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 04, 2007, 11:31:10 am
Sitrep? :confused:
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Polpolion on July 04, 2007, 12:36:27 pm
So... Steve....

Did you check out this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47871.0.html) at all? Particularly the text in bold? :nervous:
Title: Re: My 2nd figther WIP...well almost done
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 04, 2007, 10:57:03 pm
Well... Maya can import .obj files. and i can export the models as .dfx, but if it can save the model as .obj, i have no idea how.