Hard Light Productions Forums

General FreeSpace => FreeSpace & FreeSpace Open Support => Topic started by: Prometheus_3052 on June 23, 2007, 01:13:26 pm

Title: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: Prometheus_3052 on June 23, 2007, 01:13:26 pm

Hi all, new to this forum. Just loaded FS2SCP 2 days back.

I had trouble playing the game at first due to unexplained crashes so I decided to defrag my drive and install the game again. After installing, I defragged again. Just my normal procedure.
The game ran great until today when it started crashing often. When checked, my drive files had much fragmentation again......

has anyone faced this? Does ur drive fragment much from too much playing of FS2SCP only? Coz it does on mine and its causing crashes in-game. Anyone with any solution please help me!! Thanks!

P.S. Even after defragging the drive after the crashes, I go back to the game and it still crashes....  :hopping:
great start to the week.......cold turkey :shaking: from the lack of shivan killing.

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: karajorma on June 23, 2007, 02:28:36 pm

I've heard reports of odd problems with FRED that are solved by defragmentation.

Personally I'm mystified. The game shouldn't be moving anything much. The only files that should change during the game are those in the pilot file and any log files created. The game will create a bunch of cache files too but it should only do that once for each ship.

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: jr2 on June 23, 2007, 04:18:05 pm

For quick defrags, try "Optimizing" in my siggy... but that doesn't solve your problem... Hmm.  What mods are you running?  What build?  Is your system perhaps overheating?  Whens the last time you opened the case & cleaned the dust out?  Are your fans all running normally? 

After looking at the above stuff, you could try stress testing different components of your system, to see if a component is failing... namely, I'd check the memory, then the GFX card, then the CPU... for the memory, google up memtest86+.. for the rest, IDK, just google eg "CPU stress tester", but make sure it's not spyware... it should be free.

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: Prometheus_3052 on June 24, 2007, 12:14:49 pm

thanks for the help.....I still face problems with the game crashing, particularly playing derelict's campaign.

Nothing wrong with dust or fan but I guess I'll try to root out the problem oneby one. Thanks again.

Btw, anyone face the problem on derelict's campaign where you have to pull the escher out o the mess? I cleared the mines and the ship started moving but it crashed after that. Almost always along that point. Anyone have any idea why?

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: jr2 on June 24, 2007, 12:23:14 pm

IDK, that mission worked fine for me... hmm, I mentioned memtest86+ (http://www.memtest.org/)... get their bootable .iso (http://www.memtest.org/download/1.70/memtest86+-1.70.iso.zip), burn a cd, and boot your computer with it & let it test overnight.  If, in the morning, you have no errors, great... if you have errors, then you prolly need new memory.

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: Prometheus_3052 on June 25, 2007, 12:10:04 am

okay....this is theactual error message I got when the game crashes in Derelict's campaign.

AppName: fs2_open_r_20060425_kara.exe    AppVer: 1.0.0.1    ModName: fs2_open_r_20060425_kara.exe
ModVer: 1.0.0.1    Offset: 00210011

proceeded by the usual "Do you want to send details to Microsoft?"

Is there anything I can do about this?

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: Prometheus_3052 on June 25, 2007, 12:27:20 pm

Arrgh! Its driving me nutz!!!!  :hopping:

I found the source of the fragmentation. When the game crashes, the files fragment. It may have been during the torrent downloading that the installer was corrupted which caused all these crap. Just my luck....

FS2SCP in climatic battles can be better than s*x.....  ;7
but it gets anti-climatic when it crashes during a climatic battle  :mad:

EDIT: I got this from the errorlog.

fs2_open_r_20060425_Kara caused an Access Violation in module fs2_open_r_20060425_Kara.exe at 001b:00610011.
Exception handler called in FreeSpace 2 Main Thread.
Error occurred at 6/25/2007 05:59:04.
C:\Games\FreeSpace2\fs2_open_r_20060425_Kara.exe, run by Prometheus_3052.
1 processor(s), type 586.
1024 MBytes physical memory.
Read from location 00000008 caused an access violation.


I'm not sure if it made any sense...

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: MP-Ryan on June 25, 2007, 01:55:01 pm

Part of your crashing might be due to the use of an unstable build.  Why aren't you using FSOpen 3.6.9 Final?

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: karajorma on June 25, 2007, 01:57:34 pm

Trimmed out the extraneous stuff.

That build is very old. I'd suggest running Turey's installer and upgrading to 3.6.9 immediately. 

Title: Re: Frequent defragging needed for drive after due playing?
Post by: Prometheus_3052 on June 25, 2007, 02:38:52 pm

Yes! I'll do that! Thank you so much!!!!!! Gawd I love you guys........(metaphor)  :lol:

I had troubles trying to load the 1.8 file so I was stuck with the 1.5 all along and its causing me much pain.....

from the lack of climax.  ;7