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Title: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Woolie Wool on July 09, 2007, 01:02:16 pm
Does anyone have this model? It's a big humongous monster freighter, made (I think) by Aldo,  I once had a POF of it, but that was years ago. I tried searching the forums but didn't turn up anything.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 09, 2007, 01:06:20 pm
Yar. Me wantses it too.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 09, 2007, 07:25:40 pm
I has it. PM me and I'll send it to you via email.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: lefkos on July 11, 2007, 05:25:58 am
Quote from: Mad Bomber on July 09, 2007, 07:25:40 pm
I has it. PM me and I'll send it to you via email.
is it possible to upload it on hades-combine or the freespace sector?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 11, 2007, 12:40:10 pm
That and the GTB Kronus?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 12, 2007, 07:01:51 am
Actually that is a better idea. I'll do that tonight. :)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 07:05:51 am
What does this freighter look like?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 07:46:23 am
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/images/techroom/ActI/CTF-Demeter.jpg)

??
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 07:47:37 am
 :eek: Wow.Much better than the triton. :doubt: :P
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 12, 2007, 07:54:47 am
A milk float is better than a triton......


Better armed too :nod:
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 07:58:07 am
The Cronus was Stronger Than the Triton.More health and harder to kill.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 12, 2007, 07:59:17 am
 :nod: *blatantly obvious award goes to HAdes*


Is it on the combine now?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 08:00:59 am
Quote from: Mad Bomber on July 12, 2007, 07:01:51 am
Actually that is a better idea. I'll do that tonight. :)

Why can't you just upload your entire collection? Then we can all be happy bunnies.

Quote from: Colonol Dekker on July 12, 2007, 07:54:47 am
A milk float is better than a triton...... Better armed too :nod:

Where can I get a milk float (I really need a better freighter for my campaign)?

Quote from: Hades on July 12, 2007, 07:58:07 am
The Cronus was Stronger Than the Triton.More health and harder to kill.

Chronos, reetarrd.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 08:08:16 am
Autocorrect?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 08:09:07 am
Yes, Were did my post go?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 08:10:38 am
I ate it.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 08:13:16 am
I put salt on it. :P
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 08:15:51 am
Thats why I'm dying.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 08:17:00 am
Its dieing. :P
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 08:19:06 am
NO ITS NOT YOU RETARD
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 08:23:01 am
Calm the **** down.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 08:24:20 am
You justed killed me.

Don't tell me to calm down.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Woolie Wool on July 12, 2007, 08:58:48 am
Quote from: Snail on July 12, 2007, 07:46:23 am
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/images/techroom/ActI/CTF-Demeter.jpg)

??

Mad Bomber never emailed it to me like he said he would, and it's not on HC.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: lefkos on July 12, 2007, 09:37:23 am
Quote from: Woolie Wool on July 12, 2007, 08:58:48 am
Quote from: Snail on July 12, 2007, 07:46:23 am
(http://nodewar.penguinbomb.com/aotd/images/techroom/ActI/CTF-Demeter.jpg)

??

Mad Bomber never emailed it to me like he said he would, and it's not on HC.
indeed its still not on the Hades combine site nor the Freespace sector  :(
btw snail said that he haves a collection  ;7...
whats in that 'collection'? ;7
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 01:05:49 pm
*sigh*

If you looked at the URL, it's on the Angels of the Damned website.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 12, 2007, 01:19:56 pm
I wonder what would happen if a modder stuck a gun onto a container....
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 01:23:09 pm
_ (http://hades-combine.com/web/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=238)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 12, 2007, 01:25:06 pm
What, the gun would work?

... Thereby making the container impossible to capture, and adding another weapon when the freighter is loaded. I like the idea. I call dibs on it!
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 01:26:57 pm
(The table entry says "cruiser" for a reason. Don't change it to "cargo" or else the turrets won't fire!)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: lefkos on July 12, 2007, 01:29:34 pm
Quote from: Snail on July 12, 2007, 01:05:49 pm
*sigh*

If you looked at the URL, it's on the Angels of the Damned website.
:wtf: WTH are you talking about...
angels of the damned ? :wtf:
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 12, 2007, 01:29:45 pm
Spoiler:
Why'd you hide that in a spoiler marquee?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 01:31:39 pm
What spoiler marquee?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 01:46:29 pm
What is the website?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 01:48:38 pm
_ (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,48038.msg977349.html#msg977349)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 12, 2007, 01:50:18 pm
Oh.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: TrashMan on July 12, 2007, 02:20:15 pm
Yup..given the horrendus losses of freighters during the wars, you'd think allied command would want something that can survive a bit better....
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 12, 2007, 02:22:34 pm
Yep, so they came up with the triton, which dies FASTER because its a BIGGER target, nevermind that if has A flak turret.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 02:27:21 pm
Not only bigger, half the hitpoints.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 12, 2007, 02:38:34 pm
Freaking A. Now i'm frankly amazed i've managed to keep every Triton frieghter i've ever escorted in a state of near pristiness.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 02:53:22 pm
Then, the GTVA realized the mistake they made. They terminated their transport contract with Triton Dynamics... And destroyed every single remaining Triton freighter still in service.

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/264/boomsl0.png)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: TrashMan on July 12, 2007, 03:00:37 pm
that's the reason I made the Sizifus... tehy don't blow up that easily..
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Woolie Wool on July 12, 2007, 04:45:46 pm
Quote from: Snail on July 12, 2007, 01:05:49 pm
*sigh*

If you looked at the URL, it's on the Angels of the Damned website.

The AOTD website is a preliminary main page with a ton of dead links. No download.

EDIT: the subdomain is nodewar, not www...

EDIT2: There's nothing but a story for the campaign, so I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2007, 04:51:15 pm
I meant the picture. I don't have it either. :(
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: BS403 on July 13, 2007, 11:00:29 am
Quote from: Stormkeeper on July 12, 2007, 01:25:06 pm
What, the gun would work?

... Thereby making the container impossible to capture, and adding another weapon when the freighter is loaded. I like the idea. I call dibs on it!

Someone already did this in case you haven't figured it out.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 13, 2007, 11:22:59 am
That scrolling underscore thing there was linked to the download on HC.

BTW, Mad Bomber, we're waiting...
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 14, 2007, 06:03:58 am
Hey guys, Demeter has been uploaded!
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 14, 2007, 06:46:59 am
Yeah. Everything's been crazy lately and I'm about to go on vacation for a week and a half. :P

As for the question of "what's in my collection"? Most of it's on Hades Combine as it is.

Let's see, in alphabetical order, NOT counting what's in major modpacks like INF R1, INF:A, the OTT modeldump, the Nukemod, etc: (Note I may also leave a couple more things out, mostly stuff that's in campaign VPs but that I never bothered to extract)


I also have a couple CBANIs in my random collection.
1) A spinning view, from some old, long-defunct campaign detailing a fighter called the ECF Torus.
2) A very good ANI by Raa of an Orion, Leviathan, and some Thoths flying past, silhouetted against a bright background. Intended for use in ETF (hence "nereid.ani") but the nameplate is not visible, so the ANI can apply to many situations.
3) an NTF-logo CBANI
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: TrashMan on July 14, 2007, 06:53:55 am
 :nod:

nice list, but that's not all
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 14, 2007, 07:09:47 am
I've actually got a few more old models on my old computer, just never got around to transferring it over.

I'd say the overall total of MODs I have is probably about 3 or 4 times what I just wrote down (mainly thanks to the mod packs, INF R1 especially).

I also have a 2327 mod I tossed together, with a fun (but never completed) test mission that involves fighting off Shivans with your pitiful TV-War-era weaponry. If anyone's interested in giving it a try, let me know.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 14, 2007, 08:49:21 am
Ooh, can I have the Tuket?!
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: asyikarea51 on July 14, 2007, 10:38:36 am
Wow.

I even see entries to ships I used to have, but lost when my previous hard disk crashed. (Question, the Reyena's a corvette with a default skin similar to the Sirona, if I'm not mistaken? :doubt:)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 14, 2007, 10:53:44 am
Reyena is available on HC.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Hades on July 14, 2007, 11:26:45 am
The GTFr Demeter is on Hades-Combine. :yes:
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 14, 2007, 11:33:43 am
Can we see the Tuket, Repten and Satyrs please?
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: lefkos on July 14, 2007, 02:17:15 pm
cool so you made the GTI Whitehall
damn thats really a piece of art! its fantastic!
its so big :D
really cool to  defend it against a full scale attack!
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 14, 2007, 02:19:24 pm
Quote from: lefkos on July 14, 2007, 02:17:15 pm
cool so you made the GTI Whitehall

TrashMan made it.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 14, 2007, 02:25:45 pm
The heck with that. I'll just upload 'em to HC and you can see for yourself.

I'd love to see an HTL version of the Repten, tho, personally. :)

(Edit: All three are uploaded to HC now.)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: TrashMan on July 14, 2007, 02:26:40 pm
Indeed..I also had plans for a 6km vasudan starbase..still have the model somewhere...maby I will finish and release it some day soon... ;)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 14, 2007, 02:28:16 pm
Quote from: Mad Bomber on July 14, 2007, 02:25:45 pm
The heck with that. I'll just upload 'em to HC and you can see for yourself.

I'd love to see an HTL version of the Repten, tho, personally. :)

Ohhhhhh thank you!!!!
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Woolie Wool on July 14, 2007, 03:36:05 pm
Is the EAF Lethe the nasty old one or the cool final one that may never get released because 158th was abandoned?

Stuff that I'd like to see uploaded (colored red):

    * Alliance (Terran) jump gate
    * Armed TAC1 Cargo
    * Raa's 3 Bektah ships
    * Aldo's unfinished Boilerplate cruiser (wasn't someone working on this?)
    * Bullet.pof (intended as part of an old mod known as "Browning")
    * CF Epee (aka Ecantona)
    * CF Sunrider (aka a cockpit with thrusters)
    * CI Haven station (CivStationF.pof)
    * the horrendously poorly modeled GTF Cow and SD Chicken from way back when
    * Donut fighter
    * EAF Lethe from 158th
    * random detritus from my long-defunct Eden Project, but there's nothing there that isn't in my HFH detritus also
    * Terran Gas platform from back in the day
    * GTB Azaes
    * GTB Claymore
    * GTB Kronus (Two turrets FTW, Eden/HFH legacy)
    * GTB Surt (as I understand it this is an old version)
    * GTC Blade
    * GTC Cretheus
    * GTC Eris
    * GTC Hyperion
    * GTC Njord (Aldo's old torpedo cruiser, from Reci IIRC)
    * GTC Olympus (ugly IMO, it's been around forever)
    * GTC Orc (The old, sort of mini-Deimos version)
    * GTC Piranha (Seen, reskinned, in INF:A as the GTC Vidar)
    [color]* GTC Peleus (Eden/HFH legacy, Fenris derivative; the HTL version still needs to have its heirarchy fixed for its multipart turrets)[/color]
    [color]* GTCa Fury/Lancer/Lynceus/whatever the heck it's called
    * GTCa Phoenix
    * GTCa Atropos (A random carrier built from scrap parts of destroyed ships, Eden/HFH detritus; looks very dated now, but I did make briefing icons for it. That's got to count for something.)[/color]
    * GTCv Ajax (Missile corvette)
    * GTCv Chimera
[color]    * GTCv Cobra[/color]
    * GTCv Nike
    * GTCv Oculus
    * GTCv Reyena
    * GTCv Victor (Deimos with an Argo welded on as a makeshift fighterbay, perfect for mercs but not HTL; HFH legacy)
    * GTD Hades MK2 (As seen in Procyon Insurgency; 66 turrets FTW; Eden/HFH legacy)
   [color] * Terran mining vessel (I call it the GTD Hephaestus meself)[/color]
    * GTD Legion (holed Orion from the intro movie)
    * GTD Orion MK2 (Two hangars)
    * GTD Orion Phase 2 (Hamano's, as seen in ITDOH4)
    * GTD Raynor
    * GTD Sagittarius (really just an up-gunned Orion, not HTL)
    * GTD Sirona
    * GTDn Archangel
 [color]   * GTE Vidar (from Warzone)
    * GTF Firehawk (modified by me slightly)
    * GTF Icarus[/color]
    * GTF Kelpie
    * GTF Losna
    * GTF Phoenix
    * GTF Selkie
    * GTF Valk MK2/GTB Stentor
    * GTFr Demeter
    * GTFr Sizifus
    * GTFr Ulmo
    * GTI Aeglos
    * Arcadia addon (aka the 'steering wheel')
    * GTI Bretonia
    * GTI Lycaon
    * GTI Nareos
    * GTI Whitehall
    * GTL Majestic
    * GTL Splendid
    * GTSC Copernicus
    * GTSC Cyrene
    * GTSC Galileo
    * GTSG Tor'h (Something Raa randomly made a long time ago.)
    * GTSG Safat (AAA emplacement)
    * GTT Naxos (A hex-transport capable of defending itself. Not bad at all.)
    * GTT Svalin (Smaller, hot-drop marine transport)
    * GTWc Gryphon (also good for mercenaries; cruiser with fighterbay)
    * GVB Anhur
    * GVB Meretseger/GVF Apis
    * GVC Aten MK2 (10 turrets! Eden/HFH legacy; not HTL but still quite useful.)
    * GVC Cartum (agh, can't stand it)
    * GVC Mekhet
    * GVC Mafdet
    * GVC Repten (one of Untouchable's models from a while back, tis not bad for a pre-HTL model)
    * GVC Somtus (aka the "duck ship" from Renegade Resurgence)
    * GVC Tuket (IIRC Mindgames is using it; HFH legacy. Four forward SVas's wins the day.)
    * GVCa Kebechet
    * GVCa Tanen (of course)
    * GVCv Satyrs (Vasudan corvette with AWACS, another of Untouchables. Again pre-HTL, but still not bad at all.)
    * GVCv Udjat (The old version. Has fighterbay. A newer version might be available later on, if SA ever gets completed.)
    * GVD Busiris (the author called it "Typhoon", i renamed it to reduce confusion; essentially a Typhon derivative)
    * GVD Hedetet (of course)
    * GVF Heset (superb model, I gave it working tables and finished POF data now, tho the TBM may need a tweak or two)
    * GVF Heptu (really looks dated these days, sadly; HFH detritus)
    * GVF Scarab (from CoW, Ptah derivative, stealth fighter)
    * GVF Shrike (doesn't look very Vasudan IMO, but i keep it anyway)
    * GVF Shu (a good model)
    * GVI Cairo (of course)
    * GVI Cheops (of course)
    * GVMCv Wepwawet
    * random detritus from my defunct campaign, Heroes For Hire, including several interesting weapons
    * Hollow Asteroid Base
    * HLC Defiler (HOL Aten derivative)
    * HLD Mefdef (Typhon-Demon hybrid)
    * Raa's 3 Lizard fighters
    * Mining station Aule
    * Several MOD Packs (INF R1, INF rejects, INF:A, CoW, Nukemod, OTT dump, a couple others)
    * 5 of the Nightmare ships (Bomber, Cruiser, Corvette, Fighter, Destroyer)
    * NTCv Echelon
    * the Pulsar cannon and its fighter-mounted cousin, the Nova cannon. Quite impressive splash damage, comes with a new icon to boot.
    * a Proto-Apollo
    * PT Barracuda
    * PTCv Baranec (roids with engines!)
    * PTF Kulas (arr)
    * a random cruiser-sized Reactor, with a turret on it; would make a great superweapon if you were so inclined, but requires a TBM and a little bit of work in modelview
    * SC Lamia
    * SF Scorpion II
    * SOC Galatea (looks somewhat dated now, but IIRC someone wanted it)
    * SOCa Rosmerta (Reci legacy)
    * SOCv Rapier (Reci legacy)
    * SOD Segomo (Recy legacy)
    * a Spacetrooper
    * SSG Annihilator (misspelled "Anialator" )
    * SSG GunRahu (A Rahu gas miner converted into a Mjolnir-like emplacement. Eden/HFH legacy.)
  [color]  * civilian Star-Alpha (doesn't quite fit into the FS style IMO, but you're welcome to it)[/color]
    * the still-unfinished HTL TC-TRI-with-a-fighterbay in 3DS format (wasn't someone going to finish this?)
    * similar model (TC-FB), this time as a usable POF, but non-HTL (HFH legacy)
    * upgunned, HTL Typhon
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 14, 2007, 03:39:43 pm
Anybody got a small Vasudan cruiser to counter Axem's Cretheus? (lol I've been using the Cartum as a placeholder!)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: TrashMan on July 14, 2007, 04:46:50 pm
the Carrier in whos' name yoiu're not sure..

It's the GTCar Fury

Also, on HC there's the GTB Athena, Athena Mk2, Lightbringer, GTGS Praetorian and maby some mroe..I lost count..
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Mad Bomber on July 14, 2007, 06:39:59 pm
Quote from: Woolie Wool on July 14, 2007, 03:36:05 pm
Is the EAF Lethe the nasty old one or the cool final one that may never get released because 158th was abandoned?

Probably the nasty old one.


Quote
Stuff that I'd like to see uploaded (colored red):

(ker-SNIP)
    * GTB Kronus (Two turrets FTW, Eden/HFH legacy)
    * GTC Njord (Aldo's old torpedo cruiser, from Reci IIRC)
    * GTC Peleus (Eden/HFH legacy, Fenris derivative; the HTL version still needs to have its heirarchy fixed for its multipart turrets)
    * GTCa Fury
    * GTCa Atropos (A random carrier built from scrap parts of destroyed ships, Eden/HFH detritus; looks very dated now, but I did make briefing icons for it. That's got to count for something.)
    * GTCv Cobra
    * Terran mining vessel (I call it the GTD Hephaestus meself)
    * GTE Vidar (from Warzone)
    * GTF Firehawk (modified by me slightly)
    * GTF Icarus
    * GTT Naxos (A hex-transport capable of defending itself. Not bad at all.)
    * GVF Heptu (really looks dated these days, sadly; HFH detritus)
    * SOC Galatea (looks somewhat dated now, but IIRC someone wanted it)
    * SOCa Rosmerta (Reci legacy)
    * SOCv Rapier (Reci legacy)
    * SOD Segomo (Reci legacy)
    * civilian Star-Alpha

I've colored teal stuff that's already on HC. The rest I'll upload either tonight (along with the Aten MK2 and the GunRahu) or when I return from vacation.

Some of those Eden/HFH models really do need work, tho, particularly the GTB Kronus (needs significant upsizing to fit its role as a heavy bomber -- my fault in insisting Fulgrymm shrink it way back when), GVF Heptu (needs a higher detail level, and, again, slight upsizing), and GTC Peleus (needs the heirarchy fixed).

I hesitate to release models unless I'm certain no one will have to mess with them later. If someone wants to volunteer to mess with 'em, tho, I won't complain a bit :)
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: Snail on July 15, 2007, 03:18:44 pm
Quote from: TrashMan on July 14, 2007, 04:46:50 pm
Also, on HC there's the GTB Athena, Athena Mk2, Lightbringer, GTGS Praetorian and maby some mroe..I lost count..

The Praetorian is not on HC.
Title: Re: Looking for GTFr Demeter/Ceres
Post by: TrashMan on July 15, 2007, 03:52:35 pm
Strange...it must have been lost during that time HC experienced some trouble.. a few of my models were lost and I had to re-upload them... Prolly missed the Praetorian