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Title: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 02:28:47 am
Guyz FS2 Colossus CD keeps on re-installing.......when install complete it says the error which came when i open the FS2 SCP openinstaller.....my FS2 all dunno what happen.......FS2 Colossus also cannot open.....FS2 SCP also cnnot open...... oh dear...... :mad: :mad: :mad2: :mad2: :confused: :confused: :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: G0atmaster on July 12, 2007, 02:49:34 am
Likely due to a problem with OpenAL.

First of all, just go with FS2O, forget Colossus.  Colossus isn't the full game, anyway.

Just install FS2 SCP using Turey's installer (the EXE version, not the Java version), make sure you install OpenAL, then make sure you haev no old OpenAL files lingering on your system.  I forget the filenames, but there are three files that typically cause problems.  A quick search of the forums for "OpenAL" should get you some results.  After that, run "launcher.exe," select the options you want, follow the directions, and hit "run" and you're good.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 03:59:32 am
Go torrent prototype24's Retail FS2 CDs, then install FSO on top of them... :rolleyes:  I don't trust OEM games when using upgrades / patches meant to be used with Retail games.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: karajorma on July 12, 2007, 04:13:52 am
Thing is that I'm pretty sure Colossus works with the SCP. I remember trying it years ago and I can't see any good reason why it wouldn't work now.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 07:09:06 am
guyz i uninstalled and re installed via CD just yesterday evening then i wanted to play multi player so i uninstalled and re-installed it........ then it all went wrong
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Game_Master64 on July 12, 2007, 08:53:32 am
you cant play milti without the scp
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 12, 2007, 09:00:57 am
Forget using any CDs DVDs or any of the stock FSes under the SCP when you install the SCP over a stock install of FS2 it only leads to problems, in my experience. Uninstall your CDs and use Turey's installer. It makes life sooooo much easier.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 09:01:46 am
but my desktop computer don't have SCP but my brother still can play
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 09:02:41 am
y now dont have the FS2 Colossus..its uninstalled...
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 12, 2007, 09:06:07 am
but my desktop computer don't have SCP but my brother still can play

Stock FS2 works fine and the SCP works fine. I was only saying that when you mix the two, problems are guaranteed to happen.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 12, 2007, 09:09:35 am
ic..... ic
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Goober5000 on July 12, 2007, 12:10:00 pm
Don't listen to colecampbell.  Running SCP over stock FS2 works perfectly fine.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 12, 2007, 12:19:29 pm
Don't listen to colecampbell.  Running SCP over stock FS2 works perfectly fine.

I was just speaking from experience. I've had so many problems mixing the two that I just said "screw stock". If you only use one version there is a lower possibility of error, though.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: karajorma on July 12, 2007, 12:49:33 pm
Not really. Only if you're so forgetful as to be unable to remember which folder you installed Retail to before installing FS2_Open.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: G0atmaster on July 12, 2007, 02:21:23 pm
Just get EVERYTHING off of turey's installer.  That's the simplest, most clear-cut method.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 12, 2007, 03:48:14 pm
Just get EVERYTHING off of turey's installer.  That's the simplest, most clear-cut method.

What I've been saying.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: karajorma on July 12, 2007, 06:09:22 pm
Just get EVERYTHING off of turey's installer.  That's the simplest, most clear-cut method.

It's also an immense waste of time and bandwidth if you have the CDs as anyone over the intelligence level of a chimp should be capable of installing the SCP using Turey's installer on top of a retail install.


The more people you convince to download the entire thing even though they don't have to, the more likely it becomes that Razorkiss will get a nasty letter from his host and the entire installer will have to be pulled. Convincing everyone to download an extra gigabyte of data because they can't be bothered to run the standard retail installer is just dumb.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: jr2 on July 12, 2007, 09:24:32 pm
You DO get problems if you mod or tweak your Retail install, and then install SCP over that... Retail, you have to put stuff in the root dir or data subdir to mod.  SCP has the mod feature for that.  But, if you have the CDs, uninstall everything, re-install RETAIL from the CDs, and then install SCP, preferrably after copying the .mves from the disks, as I point out in my walkthrough (Turey's Installer link in my siggy).

If you don't have the retail disks and/or can't figure out how to replace that one file in Collussus that needs replacing (kara knows which one), then just google this:

prototype24 freespace2 torrent

You'll get a result like this (http://torrentspy.com/torrent/841688/Freespace_2_new_tracker?tab=comments) one.
You can get a decent Bittorrent client here (http://utorrent.com/download.php) (get the Installation program, not the standalone, unless you're comfortable with torrents, in which case, I shouldn't have to be telling you this.)

Now, install your Bittorrent client (uTorrent), then get prototype24's torrent mentioned above.  Then, Google up:

virtual clonedrive

and you get this (http://www.slysoft.com/en/virtual-clonedrive.html)
Install that, double click on the FS2 .iso for disk 1 (after it's done torrenting, obviously!!), and install.  When it asks for disk 2, hit your Windows key on the keyboard (or Ctrl+Esc if you don't have a Windows key), and open Run, type in "explorer" and hit enter.  Find your protoype24 download again, double-click on disk 2's iso file.  go back to the installer, hit next.  Do the same for disk 3.  Now, copy the .mve's off of the FS2 disks, as seen in my walkthrough.  Next, if you have the FS1 .mve's (on the FS1 CD), copy those.  NOW, Install SCP to THE SAME FOLDER AS YOU INSTALLED RETAIL FS2 TO.

I do hope that's clear enough!!
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Grizzly on July 12, 2007, 11:33:07 pm
Just get EVERYTHING off of turey's installer.  That's the simplest, most clear-cut method.

It's also an immense waste of time and bandwidth if you have the CDs as anyone over the intelligence level of a chimp should be capable of installing the SCP using Turey's installer on top of a retail install.


The more people you convince to download the entire thing even though they don't have to, the more likely it becomes that Razorkiss will get a nasty letter from his host and the entire installer will have to be pulled. Convincing everyone to download an extra gigabyte of data because they can't be bothered to run the standard retail installer is just dumb.

Also, joshua would like to point out that downloading all the files yourself appears to go faster for him. And its more usefull when you have to re-install everything, as the files are still zipped and well on your hard-drive (Joshua needed do do that many times...)
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: G0atmaster on July 13, 2007, 01:14:34 am
Karajorma, that's very true.  I've done it, and I see your point.  However, the author of this topic seems to be having a VERY difficult time with that very thing.  So I directed him to the simplest solution.

Point taken, though.  I won't recommend that as a first choice.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Game_Master64 on July 13, 2007, 10:13:54 am
You DO get problems if you mod or tweak your Retail install, and then install SCP over that... Retail, you have to put stuff in the root dir or data subdir to mod.  SCP has the mod feature for that.  But, if you have the CDs, uninstall everything, re-install RETAIL from the CDs, and then install SCP, preferrably after copying the .mves from the disks, as I point out in my walkthrough (Turey's Installer link in my siggy).

why? why not just get the .oog movies from the installer?
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 13, 2007, 11:11:51 am
You DO get problems if you mod or tweak your Retail install, and then install SCP over that... Retail, you have to put stuff in the root dir or data subdir to mod.  SCP has the mod feature for that.  But, if you have the CDs, uninstall everything, re-install RETAIL from the CDs, and then install SCP, preferrably after copying the .mves from the disks, as I point out in my walkthrough (Turey's Installer link in my siggy).

why? why not just get the .oog movies from the installer?

Again, bandwidth. The less we download, the more bandwidth there is to introduce new people, who don't have the CDs to FS.

EDIT: And the less that Hunter has to pay.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Game_Master64 on July 13, 2007, 11:32:03 am
still, are the .mve movies still supported? i thought they changed that?
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Turey on July 13, 2007, 11:39:08 am
still, are the .mve movies still supported? i thought they changed that?

Still supported, and not likely to change.
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: karajorma on July 14, 2007, 04:43:26 am
still, are the .mve movies still supported? i thought they changed that?

Avi support was removed and with good reason (It broke all the time). .mve is still supported. So if you have them why should you waste time downloading them?
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 25, 2007, 04:03:18 am
i thought demo versions can be patched to full version?? i patched many other demo softwares.......
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: jr2 on July 25, 2007, 09:50:25 am
I thought you had FS2 all sorted out, wildrosewolf... do you want me to get on IM & help you?
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: Wildrosewolf on July 26, 2007, 02:05:10 am
no no no....ya im set with my laptop FS2 SCP .....no need IM........just asking thats all...... :nod: :)
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: jr2 on July 26, 2007, 02:44:25 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he could just burn his FreeSpace2 directory + all subdirectories directly to a DVD, copy them to his other computer, delete launcher6.ini, and be good to go, right?
Title: Re: FS2 Colossus CD
Post by: karajorma on July 26, 2007, 03:00:05 am
Yep. Don't forget the OpenAL install though.