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Title: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on July 23, 2007, 09:27:45 am
A little poll. I just want to know things are working.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Asprin on July 23, 2007, 12:28:31 pm
Well, i have one problem, but it is not about campaign, it's about TECH DATABASE: when i ran TBP second time there were less data on ships then for the first TBP start. I've restarted TBP with new pilot but it is ineffectual.  :(
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on July 23, 2007, 12:57:33 pm
Quote from: Asprin on July 23, 2007, 12:28:31 pm
Well, i have one problem, but it is not about campaign, it's about TECH DATABASE: when i ran TBP second time there were less data on ships then for the first TBP start. I've restarted TBP with new pilot but it is ineffectual.  :(

So did the campaign run okay?
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Asprin on July 23, 2007, 01:06:04 pm
No problems with both campaigns....and no more problems with TECH DATABASE. It was my mistake, sorry!
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: starbug on July 23, 2007, 01:10:18 pm
It works fine for me until i get to the mission where you have just joined the hermes, and your ship has been infected with a virus and psi cops go nuts, My problems start when you are ordered to disable the GOD sat, i do that but it still shows in the directives as still been active and i get messages saying the God is powering up its beam cannon, despite the fact i disabled or destroyed it(on the second try) but when i destroy it the game crashes to the desktop with no error messages.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: aRaven on July 23, 2007, 02:06:36 pm
I have the same problem as starbuck
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Hades on July 23, 2007, 02:11:22 pm
Mine crashes at  the mission were you are helping the freighters and the hood.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: DiabloRojo on July 23, 2007, 02:16:43 pm
I put in a 'no' vote due to problems I experienced, detailed here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,48081.msg978687.html#msg978687) for crashes to desktop with 'Freespace has encountered an error' at very specific times in two of the missions.  However, after just trying the mission a few more times including with the debug build, they worked and I was unable to reproduce afterward.  I haven't gone back yet to try it more, but my only [un-educated] guess is something in the sexps revolving around the G.O.D. sat/objectives update that the newer build isn't liking if the circumstances are 'perfect.'

I was somewhat skeptical of that being the cause as I eventually got through the missions after repeated attempts, though it is the only time I've had such crashes and seeing Starbug aRaven and Capt.Jack having similar crashes in the Slipping the Noose mission pushes me back to my shaky hypothesis...

Edit - typos
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Capt.Jack on July 23, 2007, 04:00:23 pm
same problem as starbug and the entire mission it keeps telling me that I bought spoo ranch shares
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: 0rph3u5 on July 23, 2007, 04:37:40 pm
the problems with the voice-acting in "Nobody Expects" are still there

I've not voted yet since I'm not done yet
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on July 24, 2007, 03:13:01 am
Slipping the Noose sounds like it's behaving very wierdly. If anyone wants to take a look feel free. My time is so limited it's not funny.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: 0rph3u5 on July 25, 2007, 06:40:22 am
There is a "borken" brakiri vessel in "night scenario"

Quote from: IPAndrews on July 24, 2007, 03:13:01 am
Slipping the Noose sounds like it's behaving very wierdly. If anyone wants to take a look feel free. My time is so limited it's not funny.

that is the mission I'm just on; I'll look into it
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: guppy on July 25, 2007, 09:19:33 am
Have finished the campaign with only 1 problem.  "Slipping the Noose" crashes, but at a different place  each time....Solution..Got myself killed 5 times by the PSi fighters and skipped the mission ! :nervous:
Guppy
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Prophet on July 25, 2007, 11:05:25 am
You'll get my vote when the blessed darkness of winter comes.

Apologies for not being more helpful... Hell itself is coming for me. :blah:
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: 0rph3u5 on July 27, 2007, 06:45:19 am
I ran into problems with "slipping the nose"... that's why I voted NO

IPAndrews, check your PM inbox
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: DiabloRojo on July 27, 2007, 12:16:58 pm
I tinkered around in FRED and removed one event that I didn't like how it operated (is-goal-incomplete for the disable/destroy god sat) and it's continued to play (from the tech room) without issues 4 more times... Granted, it hasn't crashed for me ever since I finally compled the mission during the campaign...

I'm in no way an experienced FREDder, but the event just seemed to me like it could create constant re-checks of whether or not the other goal had returned true or not.  Most likely barking up the wrong tree though.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on July 28, 2007, 12:46:23 pm
My own PC is going to be out of action for a couple of weeks so I can't check this. I did do some messing with objectives in RW3 that's true. To make the objectives easier to follow and or more meaningful. So that's as likely to be a source of problems as anything else that has changed. That said.. a SEXP of any kind should never cause a complete Crash To Desktop  :(
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: akenbosch on August 01, 2007, 05:16:29 pm
it keeps saying i bought spoo ranch shares... :nervous:
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Capt.Jack on August 01, 2007, 05:25:06 pm
yeh join the club   :wtf:
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Hades on August 01, 2007, 05:26:59 pm
Same. :wtf:
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: DiabloRojo on August 01, 2007, 06:32:22 pm
 :wtf: If the mission doesn't crash out on you, then you're fine.

Spoolier:
Spoiler:
I'm very sure the "Spoo Ranch Shares Bought" is supposed to be there repeating constantly...  as in the virus is using everyone's creds to keep buying stocks... virus... stock scam... eh? EH?  That's why you run out of money to buy shares later on in the mission.  If you followed the show, you'd probably remember the mystique around 'Spoo,' later explained to be the most tasty foodstuff in the Babylon 5 universe made from a bug resembling a grub worm.  I decided to google it anyway, and found that SPOO is even an (informal) term day traders use for the S&P 500 stock index.  Now it makes even MORE sense!
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: akenbosch on August 01, 2007, 06:57:12 pm
whats a spoo, anyway?

edit: i never notice those second-page replies
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: 0rph3u5 on August 02, 2007, 03:21:22 am
Quote from: akenbosch on August 01, 2007, 06:57:12 pm
whats a spoo, anyway?

centauri food ---

EDIT: tastes like spoo
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on August 02, 2007, 01:03:39 pm
It's ... spooish.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Bigoudi on August 02, 2007, 03:52:22 pm
i want to say about Slipping the Noose i got same probleme mission crash after i kill the 2 PSi aurora just after this a new ship warp in the zone.

i have in some else mission from tech data mission simulator same problemes, game run perfectly and just when a ship warp in a zone there game crash only is some mission.

this can probably come from a wrong bouding box ship probleme, coverted with the wrong PCS2 vertion.

so far i remember me i have got this problemes with my new fury becose i have coverted it with a wrong PCS2 vertion so ship work only for some time but every time game is crashing.

is probably some ship puted in game but untested ship with wrong bounding box.

im not sure about it.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: hip63 on August 04, 2007, 03:28:38 pm
I'm getting a CTD on Slipping the Noose as well.Same issue as Bigoudi's.

hip63 :p
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Vidmaster on August 05, 2007, 09:26:31 am
that missions just crashes and it seems like it always crashes at a different point  :sigh:
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Rilbur on August 07, 2007, 11:16:38 pm
I can't play through without problems either... but my problem has more to do with engine wash than anything else... anytime I get in position to take engine wash (say because I just overflew a rapidly oncoming Centauri cruiser, or disabling the engines of a hacked EA ship and all of a sudden my HUD changes targets (stupid virus!) and causes me to go a lot faster than my target... really annoying.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Vidmaster on August 08, 2007, 03:41:09 am
never heard of that...
ok, done now and the only problem was the already mentioned Slipping mission
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Carlinfar on August 09, 2007, 12:02:11 am
I've just strted to play this campaign yesterday evening. I got problem in the first mission. When you play at impossible level the raiders destroy the ship you must protect befor you get in fireing range even when you redirect all power to engines end hit afterburner.They dstroy this ship in their first attack. The destruction of raider schips and disarming of their station is no problem. When you set to lower level of gameplay this problem vanisches.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Carlinfar on August 09, 2007, 11:50:10 pm
I ment Insane gameplay level
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Pilot Of The US on August 14, 2007, 08:41:54 pm
Also got a problem with Slipping the Noose. Crashes with that winxp-type fatal error "freespace has encountered a problem and needs to close...".

Using the debug build I get two errors (short versions):

Warning: Couldn't open texture 'shockwave01'
referenced by model 'shockwave.pof

Warning: Ship  is not a support ship!
File:J:\src\cvs\fs2_open_3_6_9.final\code\Parse\SEXP.CPP'

Spoiler:
Basically occures when the EA corvette (Gibraltar) goes hostile. It's happened twice now, using fsopen369-inf.
[/spolier/]

Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: jeffreycor on August 20, 2007, 12:00:09 am
I had one CTD but after going back in it has not had any further problems throughout the rest of the campaign.  :yes: Now looking forward to the civil war  :nod:
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: KarMann on August 20, 2007, 05:09:18 am
I've gotten the CTD in The Wheel Turns several times now, usually/always? right about when the Centauri turn hostile.

My first problem was when I had to scan the Akagi, and I kept looking through the quick ref cards and all the key bindings for something like "scan target". Then, as I was about to post it as a "problem" here, I finally thought to search the forums first, and came up with the answer PDQ.

And FYI about the "buying shares of a spoo ranch", more specifically, that's what Londo's computer told him it was doing when the technomage Elric cursed him for his rudeness.

And it's best prepared fresh, of course.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on August 20, 2007, 02:56:39 pm
Congrats on being the first person to spot the spoo ranch reference. The crash to desktops are annoying for me because I can find nothing wrong with the missions and in any event, there is absolutely no reason I can think of why the game should ever, ever crash to desktop. The retail build should ignore problems where possible. The debug build should report and error and either quit elegantly or continue regardless depending on severity. All I can hope is that a future build of FSOpen will fix these bugs.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: karajorma on August 20, 2007, 03:14:09 pm
Quote from: IPAndrews on August 20, 2007, 02:56:39 pm
Congrats on being the first person to spot the spoo ranch reference.

I got the reference straight away. I was just wondering if there was a messages about buying shares in Fireflies Inc. :D

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The crash to desktops are annoying for me because I can find nothing wrong with the missions and in any event, there is absolutely no reason I can think of why the game should ever, ever crash to desktop. The retail build should ignore problems where possible. The debug build should report and error and either quit elegantly or continue regardless depending on severity. All I can hope is that a future build of FSOpen will fix these bugs.

Actually this one is on my list of bugs to look at. AFAIK it's not in Mantis though (which is the main reason I didn't remember to look at it last night).
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: Macfie on August 21, 2007, 09:19:35 pm
I had problems with the nightmare scenario.  It was the red alert bug and one of the ship types in the mission was wrong.  It was a BK Avioki and should have been a BI Avioki.  It worked fine after I got rid of the red alert and corrected the ship name
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on August 22, 2007, 10:06:35 am
Please can someone open up Nightmare Scenario from RW3.0 in notepad and either confirm or deny this.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: 0rph3u5 on August 22, 2007, 02:04:59 pm
it is ture

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$Name: BK Cassan      ;! Object #26
$Class: BK Avioki

EDIT: here is a modified version which should give you that Avioki back

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Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on August 22, 2007, 03:09:14 pm
Orhp. In my absence can you liase with Kara and sort out the few remaining bugs?
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: 0rph3u5 on August 22, 2007, 03:57:54 pm
sure, I can do that

maybe a list of unsolved bugs and the latest stable FRED build which works with TBP would be handy (I've been keeping up with builds lately)
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on August 22, 2007, 04:48:56 pm
To find out about bugs just read the threads in this forum. Ask Kara about builds. When you and Kara have killed the bugs ask Hip to make you a nice new installer.
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: 0rph3u5 on August 23, 2007, 05:41:58 pm
Okay, I've got my list - sort of -
now I'm waiting for Kara to join the fun
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: 0rph3u5 on August 25, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
yeah, yeah doulbepost 'n' stuff

Raider Wars Debuging Thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,49088.0.html)

Did anyone mantis the CTDs he/she was witnessing in "Slipping the Nose"?
Title: Re: Have you played through Raider Wars in TBP Final without problems?
Post by: IPAndrews on August 26, 2007, 05:24:44 am
Quote from: 0rph3u5 on August 25, 2007, 05:28:00 pm
Did anyone mantis the CTDs he/she was witnessing in "Slipping the Nose"?

Not me.