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Title: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: corvette108048 on August 12, 2007, 12:35:37 pm
If I where to buy the rights to the Freespace series then go to THQ and Volition to make an FS3 and fully fund the making of Freespace 3. do you think THQ and Volition would do that for me?

Also if I where to do that what would you want in FS3

things I would want
1. What the hell happened to Bosh?
2. The Ancients are they still around and what way are they related to the Vasudans?
3. do Terrans get back to Earth and what happened to Earth after all this time?

Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 12:38:04 pm
Since I just got banned from SectorGame, I'm somewhat on very good behavior. So be grateful that I don't flame you.

Read this (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/general.html#WhenFS3).
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: corvette108048 on August 12, 2007, 12:57:22 pm
Since I just got banned from SectorGame, I'm somewhat on very good behavior. So be grateful that I don't flame you.

Read this (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/general.html#WhenFS3).
Well one thing can I ask before I get banned do you think Interplay will sell it for 2.5 Mill?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 01:00:11 pm
Don't worry you won't get banned... The admins aren't that mean here.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: corvette108048 on August 12, 2007, 01:12:29 pm
Don't worry you won't get banned... The admins aren't that mean here.
But really how much money is the FS copyright?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 01:19:48 pm
I didn't say because I don't know.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: nubbles526 on August 12, 2007, 01:20:52 pm
You've seen it all. So don't do it again... But since we're here anyways:

1. Bosch would be friends with shivans.
2. Errr...partially related. Language is the most common.
3. Well while Earth and Mars are at war (INF), the second fleet jumps in.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Polpolion on August 12, 2007, 01:28:07 pm
Since I just got banned from SectorGame, I'm somewhat on very good behavior. So be grateful that I don't flame you.

Read this (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/general.html#WhenFS3).

Why did you get banned :wtf:? I didn't see anything bad that you posted.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 01:29:14 pm
Well, first a welcome...

Nubbles, that post was not only illegal, but pointless. Completely.

Why did you get banned :wtf:? I didn't see anything bad that you posted.

I called BlackHole an AssHole in the Shoutbox. I got IP banned as a result.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: nubbles526 on August 12, 2007, 01:31:42 pm
Alright, Snail I changed my post. It's gone, ok? So stop being so harsh...

Did you get IPBan forever or temporary?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 01:34:59 pm
Alright, Snail I changed my post. It's gone, ok? So stop being so harsh...

Sorry nubbles, I'm a bit... Grumpy right now (not only did I get banned from SG, but my television and headphones just went down the drain. :/

Did you get IPBan forever or temporary?

I don't know. He didn't even notify me. I don't even know if I got banned or if I am just, for some reason, unable to access SG.

Well one thing can I ask before I get banned do you think Interplay will sell it for 2.5 Mill?

Why? Did you get the lottery?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Polpolion on August 12, 2007, 01:41:05 pm
Why did you get banned :wtf:? I didn't see anything bad that you posted.

I called BlackHole an AssHole in the Shoutbox. I got IP banned as a result.

Ahh. That could do it.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: corvette108048 on August 12, 2007, 02:03:35 pm
Alright, Snail I changed my post. It's gone, ok? So stop being so harsh...

Sorry nubbles, I'm a bit... Grumpy right now (not only did I get banned from SG, but my television and headphones just went down the drain. :/

Did you get IPBan forever or temporary?

I don't know. He didn't even notify me. I don't even know if I got banned or if I am just, for some reason, unable to access SG.

Well one thing can I ask before I get banned do you think Interplay will sell it for 2.5 Mill?

Why? Did you get the lottery?
No my Grandfather died and he was land rich and now I have lots of land that I can't do nothing with.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Hades on August 12, 2007, 02:05:43 pm
Oh yea since no one Beamed you here you go :welcomered:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 02:13:25 pm
No my Grandfather died and he was land rich and now I have lots of land that I can't do nothing with.

And you're spending it on FS?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 12, 2007, 02:20:44 pm
after that, PLEASE sell it to [v] under the condition that the fs community is allowed to help to the full extent, and its a PC game. (im sure goob would enjoy working with david barnec :))


plus, some of our skilled modelers (the whole 100) can help too!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 02:22:05 pm
I don't want an FS3 to be honest. :nervous:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 12, 2007, 02:36:02 pm
psh... :doubt:

i said [v] would do it too, but with a huge community influence.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Unknown Target on August 12, 2007, 02:38:44 pm
Right. Give me a reason why this thread shouldn't be locked?

Corvette, the license would probably cost within the $10 million range. Use your grandfather's money and put it to something more useful, like, I don't know, college or a new house.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 02:40:16 pm
Corvette, the license would probably cost within the $10 million range. Use your grandfather's money and put it to something more useful, like, I don't know, college or a new house.

Yeah, be realistic. Wasting money on FS3 just isn't long-term. In a few years, you'll be regretting it.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 12, 2007, 02:41:06 pm
the space-sim genre isnt the most profitable, you see.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: TrashMan on August 12, 2007, 03:11:15 pm
I don't want an FS3 to be honest. :nervous:

*rolls a barrel of tar and lights a torch*
BURN THE HERETIC!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 12, 2007, 03:12:57 pm
trashman, this is HLP. we do things differently here.


BEAM THE HERETIC!

 :beamz:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Gamma_Draconis on August 12, 2007, 03:37:24 pm
Wow, this is kinda like one of my fantasy where I become filthy rich and buy the FS rights and then let Volition make FS3. But that is a fantasy, you shouldn't do it. As much as I would love it if some multimillionaire bought FS, C&C, and all those great series back to their original developers, I can't stand and let someone ruin their future over a game. So unless your Bill Gates, use that money for yourself.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 12, 2007, 04:16:09 pm
bah...bill gates would have them put it on the xbox.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Flipside on August 12, 2007, 04:29:11 pm
You probably could buy the Rights with that kind of money Corvette, but that's about it, you'd have a set of IP sitting around and no funds to do anything else with it. As for V writing it, if they could do that, considering they currently have the last say on the Rights, why would they sell them in the first place?

It's an idea that's knocked around a few times, but for it to be done properly, it needs not just financial power, but marketting power as well.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 12, 2007, 04:32:34 pm
besides, we'd have to make a whole new engine, or make the game non-comercial. theres a huge loss of profits on the second one. and if we use the same engine and remove the freeware liscense, millions of people will be unknowingly breaking the law simply by having SCP builds.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: ShivanSpS on August 12, 2007, 05:07:50 pm
I will be only agree of making a FS3 only if a co-developed project betren V, THQ and SCP staff... what is a drean...

But yet, i have no idea if V will whants to make a FS3... is nearly not sence, this genere is altmost dead.

The only way that a FS3 may call the atention if is a multiple genere game, what is really very hard and expensive to make, we dont to even think how hard will be to keep the current FS2 combat style.

Whit multi-genere game i mean, "FS2 combat in space", "FPS like BF series in the ground", also include the posibility of "aboard a ship", and posibility of open game play in both space and ground like "X3"... and, well a very good multiplayer whit a few diferent modes...

That will be perfect, but very hard, very long, and very expensive to make... but yet, a only space sim game, today, it dont have a market :( and to finish it, a movie or series.

But finally, about the rights, i agree whit the others, dont use that money for something that may no one will whant to do anything whit it...
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 05:09:58 pm
The only way that a FS3 may call the atention if is a multiple genere game, what is really very hard and expensive to make, we dont to even think how hard will be to keep the current FS2 combat style.

It wouldn't be FS at all that way IMHO.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: ShivanSpS on August 12, 2007, 05:18:48 pm
The only way that a FS3 may call the atention if is a multiple genere game, what is really very hard and expensive to make, we dont to even think how hard will be to keep the current FS2 combat style.

It wouldn't be FS at all that way IMHO.

As long as the FS2 space combat physics, style and a "military mission based campaing" is still posible (or a mode), it will be FS, but only whit a lot more other posibilitys. Is hard, but no imposible.

What is imposible is to ever see a "good in all" game like that, this is just my drean.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Hippo on August 12, 2007, 06:00:55 pm
Snail, drop the drama. You were not banned nor had your normal membership access reduced in any way on SG.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2007, 06:02:05 pm
Snail, drop the drama. You were not banned nor had your normal membership access reduced in any way on SG.

Strange... Taking to PMs...
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: S-99 on August 12, 2007, 08:24:10 pm
You've seen it all. So don't do it again... But since we're here anyways:

1. Bosch would be friends with shivans.
2. Errr...partially related. Language is the most common.
3. Well while Earth and Mars are at war (INF), the second fleet jumps in.

And then this happens when the EA gets formed.
(http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5541/nemshot02bh8.png)
Can't believe my last topic got locked. Someone took it the wrong way? Yes i photoshopped in, i knew it'd be a good joke.

Too bad fs3 isn't coming out. Fs2 had tons of cliffhangers which fs1 did not. Fs1 was fairly easy to figure out, the node to sol got destroyed, so terrans can't get back to earth, and the ravaged vasudans must recover. Fs2 had the whole bosch shivan involvement which is a great story, so is all the sathani. A whole bunch of unanswered questions to very grim ended games. I would assume it obvious that bosch does become friends with the shivans since he already accomplished that in fs2. All the sathani, whether or not bosch influenced that or not, unanswered. The question of whether fs3 is going to have a working node to sol is yes (otherwise knossoses would have no meaning in fs2). Fs3 would most likely take place when the terran sol knossos is first activated, it'd make fs3 suck in sort of a way if you weren't part of that in the game or see it happen, as opposed to reading about the sol knossos in fs3 tech room documents. Re-opening capella and seeing where the knossos network beyond gamma draconis takes you is a real big thing i'd want to see the most.

The knossos network in fs2 is usually something that's forgotten about and not elaborated on enough. In fs2 you encounter 3 knossoses, you know there's a lot more, and that is yet again one of the unanswered cliff hangers of fs2. Also seeing where the knossos network takes you, will also take you to bosche's involvement with the shivans, and learn more of the shivans mysteries as you get deeper into the knossos network. I'm saying this is what i know fs3 would have pretty much.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Game_Master64 on August 12, 2007, 08:34:58 pm
I don't even need a new story, the fine folks around here do a good enough job at that. I just want an upgraded, less tempermental engine, no offence intended to the SCP team, there doin a great job to.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Unknown Target on August 12, 2007, 08:40:42 pm
If all you want is an upgraded engine, learn to code and improve the SCP :p
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Game_Master64 on August 12, 2007, 08:54:09 pm
If all you want is an upgraded engine, learn to code and improve the SCP :p

to much work, otherwise, i'd be glad to. what language does it use any way?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Unknown Target on August 12, 2007, 09:00:28 pm
C/C+ IIRC. Check the SCP forum.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Polpolion on August 12, 2007, 09:07:10 pm
If all you want is an upgraded engine, learn to code and improve the SCP :p

One day... one day :drevil:


*goes to read Kernighan and Rithcie
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: IceFire on August 12, 2007, 09:34:24 pm
If I where to buy the rights to the Freespace series then go to THQ and Volition to make an FS3 and fully fund the making of Freespace 3. do you think THQ and Volition would do that for me?

Also if I where to do that what would you want in FS3

things I would want
1. What the hell happened to Bosh?
2. The Ancients are they still around and what way are they related to the Vasudans?
3. do Terrans get back to Earth and what happened to Earth after all this time?
This would be tricky...very tricky I think.  Nobody really knows at this point what level Interplay is functioning at.  They have basically become defunct...I think they still have a website and an e-mail address but theres nothing going on that I've heard about in a very long time.  They may have already sold the rights...Volition last we heard was doing reasonably well and the guys there are very proud of FreeSpace.  It wouldn't surprise me if they already owned the rights but I really don't know.

So hypothetically...if you managed to buy the rights...and then tried to get FreeSpace 3 made you'd have to deal with THQ and Volition...probably more with THQ.  I'm not sure if THQ is really interested in the genre as you can well imagine that publisher funds what they think they can make money on.  If we were to see a FreeSpace in the future and it came from THQ/Volition then you can bet it will be either console focused or at least with intention to release on consoles as well.  Not everyone will like that.  We still don't know how a space sim would do in the modern market as there hasn't been a big one in a very long time.

My suggestion to you is if you have that much money...invest wisely elsewhere...maybe one day you can buy THQ :D
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Polpolion on August 12, 2007, 10:15:17 pm
I don't know about any of you, but if Freespace 3 came out, I would buy it and play it regardless of who made it or how good it would be. :nervous:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Gamma_Draconis on August 12, 2007, 10:43:19 pm
I don't know about any of you, but if Freespace 3 came out, I would buy it and play it regardless of who made it or how good it would be. :nervous:
Thats pretty desperate. So if I were to make a ripoff of Asteroids and call it Freespace 3, would you buy it?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: BS403 on August 12, 2007, 10:44:48 pm
@Corvette: if you live in America, and the land is worth 2.5 million, you won't get that much. when you sell the land you will have to pay capital gains tax, unless you invest the money back into real estate within ~ 6 months. and capital gains tax takes damn near 50% of the cash. I'm judging by your local time zone that you live in america or canada, but maybe you don't.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Polpolion on August 12, 2007, 10:57:06 pm
I don't know about any of you, but if Freespace 3 came out, I would buy it and play it regardless of who made it or how good it would be. :nervous:
Thats pretty desperate. So if I were to make a ripoff of Asteroids and call it Freespace 3, would you buy it?

By Freespace 3, I mean the third game in the Freespace series. So unless you also made Freespace 1 and 2, you would need to find a different loophole in my statement. :p
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 12, 2007, 10:59:02 pm
what if it were a derek smart production, with 3d support only partialy implemented?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Unknown Target on August 12, 2007, 11:10:54 pm
No.

And my god you are going to get roasted.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: corvette108048 on August 13, 2007, 01:03:42 am
@Corvette: if you live in America, and the land is worth 2.5 million, you won't get that much. when you sell the land you will have to pay capital gains tax, unless you invest the money back into real estate within ~ 6 months. and capital gains tax takes damn near 50% of the cash. I'm judging by your local time zone that you live in america or canada, but maybe you don't.
Lets just say I had 10 mill total after taxes I had 5.5 mill and I want to spend 2.5 mill on the fs copyright
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: corvette108048 on August 13, 2007, 01:04:57 am
what if it were a derek smart production, with 3d support only partialy implemented?
Derek Smart could not make a good game if he tryed
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Unknown Target on August 13, 2007, 01:07:27 am
I swear, if I had 2.5 mil to spend I'd invest it in real space exploration :p
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: CP5670 on August 13, 2007, 02:06:09 am
Well, for one thing, I doubt the Freespace IP itself would cost that much. $100-200k is more realistic, as FS is far from a high profile series and was a commercial failure on top of that. However, as Flipside said, acquiring the rights would be pretty pointless in itself. Unless you buy a substantial stake in THQ, a $1.86bln company, you're going to have a hard time convincing them to make a sequel on the PC (they do console games only now) to a space sim (a nearly defunct genre these days) that didn't sell well.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 13, 2007, 03:12:30 am
I swear, if I had 2.5 mil to spend I'd invest it in real space exploration :p

Pardons for drifting off-topic, but I think the whole space exploration bull**** is pretty pointless, because

1. Mankind doesn't have and probably never will have the technological knowhow to travel beyond our own solar system
2. Our own solar system is dull. There isn't anything of interest here and, apart from Earth, there aren't any inhabitable planets.

Sure, some American hothead scientists state that we could set up colonies in the Moon or Mars, but that would require enormous machinery and installations to have even the slightest changes of succeeding. And even after that, who would actually want to live on a big, boring piece of rock, when you could as well live on Earth, where we have nice things such as oceans and nature.

I'd say **** the whole space exploration business. Let's save our own planet first, before even thinking about conquering the universe.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 13, 2007, 03:18:05 am
Hey it's that sensitive from the Starborn FAQ! :D
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: achtung on August 13, 2007, 04:05:18 am
1. Mankind doesn't have and probably never will have the technological knowhow to travel beyond our own solar system

Lots of people never thought we'd have flying machines you know.  Same goes for going into orbit, to the moon, etc.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 13, 2007, 04:19:42 am
Lots of people never thought we'd have flying machines you know.  Same goes for going into orbit, to the moon, etc.

True, I admit that. But still, traveling beyond the Sol system, so to speak, with our current technology would require the crew to be in some kind of stasis, since the journey would take a buttload of time. And even then we could only hope that they'd arrive on their location safe and sound, would find something interesting there and could get back alive.

If we wanted to travel to, for example, Alpha Centauri in a reasonable time, we'd have to travel way faster than light. And as far as I know, that isn't happening any time soon.

I'm not saying an absolute no to space travel. I just think that we should first try to stop polluting, uncontrollable population growth and the conflicts within our species before focusing on the outer space. In short, let's first save our only home and after that find new ones.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: achtung on August 13, 2007, 05:09:43 am
I understand, and agree with you to a point.  Just, never say never.  :p
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: TrashMan on August 13, 2007, 05:10:51 am
 :nod:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Grizzly on August 13, 2007, 06:39:04 am
THQ needs to buy the rights from Interplay...

Quote
I'd say **** the whole space exploration business. Let's save our own planet first, before even thinking about conquering the universe.

I think those space expleration people already knew our planet was doomed, and therefore search for others..
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 13, 2007, 06:42:13 am
K. I ain't not sayin' never no more. :D
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Snail on August 13, 2007, 06:50:02 am
Quote from: Starborn FAQ
Can the humans, once they discover the Starborn, just say "no" to the Starborn's influence? Sure, playing along with the Starborn gets you rewards, but c'mon, only the most selfish people imaginable would further the destruction of their own race!

But the Starborn are far more subtle than that. They’re not going to tell one of their ‘game pieces’ what the ultimate point of the Great Game is. (It’s not annihilation of the race, BTW, merely destroying human civilization. Although annihilation could easily happen. The SB don’t want to waste all those years of manipulation if they don’t have to. They know that human civilization will re-emerge from a new Stone Age and that they’ll eventually be able to play another round of the Great Game – after all, it’s happened before.

It might work more like this: The SB find a Sensitive born to a powerful Earth family (powerful because of the works of previous generations of Sensitives). They start influencing him when he’s a boy, telling him how beautiful the Earth is. The Sensitive becomes a Mother Earth activist. With continuing ‘help’ and his family’s fortune, he starts to gain political power. He becomes the advisor of Kings and Prime Ministers on the subject of the environment. He might even become a Prime Minister himself. Along the way, he’s accumulated followers – some are lesser Sensitives who ‘know’ he’s right about everything, others are Normals who like what he’s saying. Some of them consider themselves “men of action”.

Naturally, the SB don’t stop helping him there. Now that he has real power, they change the tone, telling him that the people living in the Martian colonies are somehow wrong. It’s wrong to live under domes when beautiful Mother Earth is available to all. Slowly, he begins to feel that the Martians are actually evil and his advice starts to put the Martians in a poorer and poorer light. Over time, he comes to hate the Martians and, directly and indirectly, he influences a sizable portion of the Earthers to agree with him, including his ‘men of action’.

At some point, a situation arises where one of his ‘men of action’, maybe a Capship captain, is in a position to either help or hurt some Martians. He hurts them. Tensions build. Rhetoric, especially the Sensitives’s, gets louder. Someone pulls the trigger and humanity finds itself in civil war. The SB sit back, share a bowl of metaphorical popcorn, and enjoy.

I think that Lobo is that hippie.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: jr2 on August 13, 2007, 07:42:55 am
@corvette108048:  I think that if you wisely invested that money, you could then have enough money to do whatever you wanted and more, I'd imagine.  I mean, even putting it all in a high-interest savings account (like a CD or somethin) would give like 5 - 7% interest, right?  If you invested in a few good companies like Google & THQ, and some others, then you'd be all set.  Too bad KMart is back up... if you'd invested in their stock when it crashed, you'd have more money than you knew what to do with now.  XD
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 13, 2007, 10:48:26 am
I think that Lobo is that hippie.

Ok, maybe some of my statements fit that hippie description but there are a few flaws in your theory:

The Starborn Hippie Dude

 
Lobo
Is Sensitive
 
Is rude and annoying
Is being influenced by some aliens
 
Has other mental problems
Has outside help and a family fortune
 
Is rarely helped and hasn't even seen a fortune
Gains political power and influences bigwigs       
 
Has no political agenda and is always rejected when presenting his ideas
Has followers
 
Is generally avoided
Thinks Martians are evil
 
Didn't even know Mars was inhabited
Causes a civil war
 
Is highly insignificant and cannot make a difference

What I was saying is that I don't understand why humans should ruin this planet and justify the whole thing with the word 'profit'. Some of us are actually trying to live here. And if you call me a Starborn frakkin' hippie once more... I will come and eat your cookies.

As a side note, some highly powerful Starborn/Administrator/Moderator could move our space travel debate somewhere, since it has nothing to do with the symbol combination F, S and 3.


Edit: Now that I thought of it, there might be something true behind this Starborn thing. At least it would explain how someone like Bush got to be the president of the U.S. Creepy.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Grizzly on August 14, 2007, 03:40:43 pm
Wait.. someone said FreeSpace 3 here!

Brace for trampling!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 14, 2007, 03:44:49 pm
when the terran-vasudan war is released fs2 will be bumped up too fs3. so why does everyone want to make a fs3 if it will end up an fs4?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Mobius on August 14, 2007, 03:51:19 pm
when the terran-vasudan war is released fs2 will be bumped up too fs3. so why does everyone want to make a fs3 if it will end up an fs4?

So? What do you mean? :wtf:

1) It's "FS", not "fs";
2) According to you, every major FreeSpace related MOD should be considered a separate game? Inferno R1 wpuld be FS3, and INF SCP FS3.5? And INF:A SA? FS1.5?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Hades on August 14, 2007, 03:56:39 pm
Just ignore him.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: AlphaOne on August 14, 2007, 04:00:16 pm
yeap dont mind him he got his cajonas scoarched by the capella nova so now he is all cranky and not in a very good mood!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Mobius on August 14, 2007, 04:00:38 pm
The problem is that someone is spamming. A lot.

*Summons Karajorma*
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: TrashMan on August 14, 2007, 04:12:41 pm
You have summoned Torquemada! Let the INQUISITION BEGIN!

The Inquisition! What a show!
The Iquisition! Here we go!
I know you're wishin' that we go away
But the inqusition here and it's here to stay!


Now bring in the NUNS..(WH 40K nuns...MWAHAHAHA)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Mobius on August 14, 2007, 04:14:50 pm
Torquemada is an Italian moderator...how do you know him? :wtf:

Oh...wait...are you refering to the original Torquemada? ;)
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Unknown Target on August 14, 2007, 05:02:25 pm
Quit the spam.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Charismatic on August 14, 2007, 11:49:40 pm
I want a FS3.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: MrBig101 on August 15, 2007, 12:08:17 am
Heck, why not skip 3 and go right to 4?  Change up the usual order of things, mix it up a bit.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Grizzly on August 15, 2007, 02:01:16 am
You see, the problem with companies like THQ is that they want profit, and as far as they know, Freespace isn't profitable (Wait till Elite 4 comes out!). Petitions obviously won't work... so I came up with a better plan.

We go to the offices of interplay and THQ, and force them to let Violition make an FS3. How? simple, we are going to set up some catapults, put some volunteer Freespacers in them, and catapult them trough the windows. It would seem that is the only way you can get a publisher shocked these days.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: S-99 on August 15, 2007, 02:07:53 am
The volunteer freespacers need to choose their own ships before they get catapulted. One guy will have written on his shirt hercules. V still wont get it until a guy with the shirt hercules mark II is catapulted into their building. Then when V tries to get cops, we catapult a guy with a shirt that says perseus into the cops. And V will definitely know we mean business when we send up a really huge fat guy from the catapults into their building with a shirt that says ursa.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Turey on August 15, 2007, 02:15:30 am
I'm liking this idea. I'll help make the catapults.  :nod:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: TrashMan on August 15, 2007, 04:21:46 am
We need to launch a bus full of FS nerds...and call it COLLOSSUS!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Grizzly on August 16, 2007, 09:51:06 am
No, we will drag the cops out of the watergun and name THAT one Colussus. we might also want to seize a firetruck and call it Sathanas.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: ShivanSpS on August 16, 2007, 02:04:55 pm
The volunteer freespacers need to choose their own ships before they get catapulted. One guy will have written on his shirt hercules. V still wont get it until a guy with the shirt hercules mark II is catapulted into their building. Then when V tries to get cops, we catapult a guy with a shirt that says perseus into the cops. And V will definitely know we mean business when we send up a really huge fat guy from the catapults into their building with a shirt that says ursa.

and if their do not get it we catapult a guy whit a shirt that says "Headz"
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: TrashMan on August 16, 2007, 02:19:03 pm
with a cleaver and a vasudan outfit!
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: S-99 on August 17, 2007, 01:22:16 am
Well, clever vasudan outfits really aren't that clever. The average vasudan is naked all the time and likes to chop off peoples heads. So i guess we'd just have one huge crowd of lanky naked people chopping off V employees heads. At the same time this is not a good idea as it seems highly homo-eroticly wrong.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 17, 2007, 03:11:45 am
Well, clever vasudan outfits really aren't that clever. The average vasudan is naked all the time and likes to chop off peoples heads. So i guess we'd just have one huge crowd of lanky naked people chopping off V employees heads. At the same time this is not a good idea as it seems highly homo-eroticly wrong.
What if he actually meant people dressed up as Vasudans, armed with cleavers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaver_%28knife%29)?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Nix on August 17, 2007, 03:38:24 am
wait till the bottom falls out of the housing market, build a house on all that land, have a nice home, and be happy you've got more than most people.

:nervous:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: TrashMan on August 17, 2007, 05:06:26 am
What if he actually meant people dressed up as Vasudans, armed with cleavers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaver_%28knife%29)?

and I did too :D
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: S-99 on August 17, 2007, 12:05:55 pm
What if he actually meant people dressed up as Vasudans, armed with cleavers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaver_%28knife%29)?

And then we could really scare V with our hordes of shivans. That would be a whole bunch of people dressed in black clothes crab walking everywhere with laser pointers shined in V employees eyes (shivans have that personal beam cannon).
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 17, 2007, 12:22:36 pm
And then we could really scare V with our hordes of shivans. That would be a whole bunch of people dressed in black clothes crab walking everywhere with laser pointers shined in V employees eyes (shivans have that personal beam cannon).
Well, if I had an office and a bunch of people dressed as Shivans and armed with laser pointers happened to crab walk in, I'd be genuinely scared.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 17, 2007, 12:24:08 pm
wouldnt chopping off heads be counterproductive?
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: TrashMan on August 17, 2007, 01:09:27 pm
We can chop heads of passserbys or some replacable staff... :drevil:
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: akenbosch on August 17, 2007, 01:11:15 pm
naw, lets trick derek smart into coming and get his head.
Title: Re: Hypothetical Freespace 3 Question
Post by: Flipside on August 17, 2007, 01:14:25 pm
My Spam-ometer is over 9000!

I think this is done, locked for now, Corvette, PM me if you want it cleaned and re-opened :)